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Rupesh Reddy

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May 10, 2013, 11:10:04 AM5/10/13
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Sir full installation dvd's(a set of 10) are not released yet so kindly specify when these are going to be released.

Please do not respond negetively.

Regards,
Rupesh.

Hugo Vanwoerkom

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May 10, 2013, 10:50:01 PM5/10/13
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http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/


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Rupesh Reddy

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May 13, 2013, 11:40:02 PM5/13/13
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Sir I am living in a remote area so I have to buy finished dvd's. Vendors release full installation dvd's only when they are available for download through http,ftp or torrents. How many months it would take to download remaining seven iso's using http,ftp or torrents.

Cheers,
Rupesh.

On May 11, 2013 8:19 AM, "Hugo Vanwoerkom" <hvw5...@care2.com> wrote:
Rupesh Reddy wrote:
Sir full installation dvd's(a set of 10) are not released yet so kindly specify when these are going to be released.

Please do not respond negetively.


http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/


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cletusjenkins

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May 14, 2013, 12:20:02 AM5/14/13
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There are 3 dvd's for wheezy:

debian-7.0.0-amd64-DVD-1.iso 2013-05-04 17:14 3.7G
debian-7.0.0-amd64-DVD-2.iso 2013-05-04 17:14 4.4G
debian-7.0.0-amd64-DVD-3.iso 2013-05-04 17:14 4.4G

So just add up the GB's and divide that by your internet connection speed. I would recommend bittorrent rather than jigdo unless you are very familiar with it. You could get 95% of the software a typical enduser needs from just the first DVD. If you were to download the first two CD iso's you'd have a goodly chunk of that important 95%. Anything else can be downloaded a part of the installation or later. You don't need all the disks to install.


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---- On Mon, 13 May 2013 20:32:06 -0700 Rupesh Reddy<rupeshfo...@gmail.com> wrote ----

> Sir I am living in a remote area so I have to buy finished dvd's. Vendors release full installation dvd's only when they are available for download through http,ftp or torrents. How many months it would take to download remaining seven iso's using http,ftp or torrents.
>
> Cheers,
> Rupesh.
> On May 11, 2013 8:19 AM, "Hugo Vanwoerkom" <hvw5...@care2.com> wrote:
> Rupesh Reddy wrote:
> Sir full installation dvd's(a set of 10) are not released yet so kindly specify when these are going to be released.
>
> Please do not respond negetively.
>
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> http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/amd64/jigdo-dvd/
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Richard Owlett

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May 14, 2013, 8:00:03 AM5/14/13
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Rupesh Reddy wrote:
> Sir I am living in a remote area so I have to buy finished
> dvd's. Vendors release full installation dvd's only when
> they are available for download through http,ftp or
> torrents. How many months it would take to download
> remaining seven iso's using http,ftp or torrents.
>
> Cheers,
> Rupesh.
>

Short answer - the complete 10 DVD set is available from
some vendors now.
I would contact your vendor of choice directly to ask when
they plan to ship complete sets or go to
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/ to find other vendors near
you.
I just did a quick spot of U.S. vendors. Some haven't listed
Wheezy yet at all. Some are offering both the 3 DVD and 10
DVD sets.

Longer answer
The Debian administrators have chosen to move away from
providing CD/DVD images on their servers available via http
or ftp due to load levels.
Go to http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/ and follow
links relevant to your architecture to find links for bit
torrent and jigdo downloads - ALL 10 DVDs are available.

Just grin when some on these fora state categorically "ALL
anyone *EVER* needs is in 3 DVD set" ;/



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Rupesh Reddy

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May 17, 2013, 10:40:01 AM5/17/13
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Sir please explain what's the process going on and why the remaining seven DVD's are not released yet.

Many people like me are waiting curiously around the globe.

Cheers,
Rupesh.

Kent West

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May 17, 2013, 10:50:01 AM5/17/13
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On 05/17/2013 09:36 AM, Rupesh Reddy wrote:
On May 10, 2013 8:29 PM, "Rupesh Reddy" <rupeshfo...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sir full installation dvd's(a set of 10) are not released yet so kindly specify when these are going to be released.




I'm not sure where you get the idea that there are 10 DVDs; from the main Debian web site is this blurb:

The first CD/DVD disk contains all the files necessary to install a standard Debian system. To avoid needless downloads, please do not download other CD or DVD image files unless you know that you need packages on them.

and then only lists three DVD images total. There's no mention that I can find of a 10-DVD set.


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Tom Furie

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May 17, 2013, 11:10:02 AM5/17/13
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On Fri, May 17, 2013 at 08:06:23PM +0530, Rupesh Reddy wrote:

> Sir please explain what's the process going on and why the remaining seven
> DVD's are not released yet.

If you *really* need DVD images beyond the first three, you can produce
them using jigdo.

Cheers,
Tom

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Lisi Reisz

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May 17, 2013, 11:30:01 AM5/17/13
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On Friday 17 May 2013 15:36:23 Rupesh Reddy wrote:
> Sir please explain what's the process going on and why the remaining seven
> DVD's are not released yet.
>
> Many people like me are waiting curiously around the globe.

You have actually already had an answer.

And while I am at it, could you possibly stop addressing us all as "sir"? It
is quite insulting to some of us.

Lisi


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st

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May 17, 2013, 12:40:01 PM5/17/13
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Kent West wrote:

>> Sir full installation dvd's(a set of 10) are not released yet so kindly
>> specify when these are going to be released.
>
> I'm not sure where you get the idea that there are 10 DVDs

Here, maybe:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.0.0/i386/jigdo-dvd/

As you may see, there are .jigdo and .template files for 10 DVD
images.

Someone out there may still need them. Just because so many people
have cheap broadband Internet connections these days doesn't mean
everybody does. I remember times when the company I was working
for couldn't afford to download the full set of Woody CDs, leave
alone install from Internet.

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Rupesh Reddy

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May 17, 2013, 12:50:02 PM5/17/13
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No one of you have answered my question ie., what's the process going on. I am relatively new to Debian.

As I am living in remote area I am asking the questions above and also I can't use jidigo.

Cheers,
Rupesh.

Lars Noodén

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May 17, 2013, 1:30:02 PM5/17/13
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On 5/17/13 7:39 PM, Rupesh Reddy wrote:
> No one of you have answered my question ie., what's the process going on. I
> am relatively new to Debian.
>
> As I am living in remote area I am asking the questions above and also I
> can't use jidigo.
>
> Cheers,
> Rupesh.

I missed whether you were planning on buying the DVDs or burning your own.
If you are looking to buy, here is a list of vendors:

http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/

Some ship internationally, if you don't have anything suitable locally.

I don't know if it is an option for you but you could set up a portable
hard drive with Debian. Then take it on a visit to an area with good
connectivity and build your own repository to take back home.

Regards,
/Lars


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John Hasler

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May 17, 2013, 2:30:01 PM5/17/13
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Rupesh Reddy writes:
> As I am living in remote area I am asking the questions above and also
> I can't use jidigo.

And you need the full source for every package?
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Rick Thomas

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May 17, 2013, 4:00:02 PM5/17/13
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OK, Rupesh. Here's the process:

1) Debian releases the downloadable CD/DVD/Blu-ray disk images. For reasons already covered, they release the first three DVD as ".iso" images and the rest as '.jigdo" templates. (As you have pointed out, this doesn't help someone like yourself in a place without high-speed internet access.)

2) Vendors download the images and burn them to CD/DVD/Blu-ray disks and make them available for sale. Some vendors only use the first three DVD images -- either on the assumption that "that's all you really need" or simply being unwilling/unable to use jigdo to get the rest. (This may help you, if you can get by with the first three DVDs -- as seems likely given that you are a new Debian user. Or you may really need all 10 DVDs -- I don't know and you haven't said. However see below regarding international sales…)

3) Some vendors don't bother with the paperwork for doing international sales. (No help for you here.)

4) A few vendors do the full job. They download/jigdo the full 10-DVD set, burn them, and make them available for international sale. This takes time. Be patient.

As previously noted, there is a list of vendors at
http://www.debian.org/CD/vendors/

You'll probably find at least one of them who has gotten all the way to step 4, or is working on it as we speak. But you'll have to dig for it -- visit each vendor's web site and see what they have available. Your email address doesn't tell me where you live, so I can't do the research for you.

Does this help?

Rick


On May 17, 2013, at 9:39 AM, Rupesh Reddy <rupeshfo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> No one of you have answered my question ie., what's the process going on.


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Alan Ianson

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OSDisc.com sells all 10 DVDs as well as live discs and has free
worldwide shipping.. :)

http://www.osdisc.com/products/debian


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Ralf Mardorf

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On Fri, 17 May 2013 21:49:12 +0200, Rick Thomas <rbth...@pobox.com> wrote:
> As you have pointed out, this doesn't help someone like yourself in a
> place without high-speed internet access

When I had a slow Internet around ten years back, somebody from the
community of my country sent me a CD or DVD for free. Since you need
several medias, you could ask the list, if somebody near to your location
is willing to sent you the medias, if you send empty medias and a
reply-paid envelope.


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Ralf Mardorf

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On Fri, 2013-05-17 at 12:45 -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Rupesh Reddy writes:
> > As I am living in remote area I am asking the questions above and also
> > I can't use jidigo.
>
> And you need the full source for every package?

@ John: The OP is a newbie and perhaps not aware about the packages.

@ Rupesh: You unlikely need all DVDs. I don't know what DVDs are needed
for most common stuff, but others pointed out, that you need the first
two or three DVDs. Perhaps the other DVDs include seldom used packages
and packages including the source code. OTOH you might need software
that isn't available by any f the DVDs.

If Internet connections are that bad in your part of the world, you
should consider to use a distro that fit to your needs regarding to the
packages that are installed by default.

E.g.

http://ubuntustudio.org/
For audio, graphics, photo

http://www.linuxcnc.org/
For CNC

http://www.edubuntu.org/
For education

Regards,
Ralf


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