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Raquel

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Jan 11, 2007, 9:10:12 PM1/11/07
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On Thu, 11 Jan 2007 18:44:31 -0700
"Kevin Chichak" <kchi...@telusplanet.net> wrote:

> Can you please Remove the following
> thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From your server.
>
>

And what makes you think that I, or any other subscriber to this
list, is able to do that?

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________________________________________
• To: "WADE @ Spots" <wmar...@spots.ab.ca>
• Subject: Re: DON'T OPEN THE PREVIOUS MESSSAGE FROM ME!!!!!!!!!!! VIRUS
• From: Paul Johnson <ba...@ursine.ca>
• Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:09:38 -0800
• Cc: "(h) Bill (b)" <hihw...@hotmail.com>,"Abounader, Selim"
<Selim.A...@morpho.com>,"Adam - Holy Comeback, Batman! The Canucks beat
Tampa!" <adamas...@hotmail.com>,Air Mattreses Suck
<justin...@msn.com>,Alisha McIsaac <ali...@fire-creek.com>,Audrey
Prawdzik-Bergen <ber...@spots.ca>,"B & B Strub (Canada)"
<bst...@searchbug.com>,Beth <bethhum...@hotmail.com>,Bill & Ivy Crawford
<bcra...@spots.ab.ca>,Bill Crawford <BCra...@alberta-cu.com>,Bill
Crawford <bc...@spots.ca>, Blake Patton <pat...@spots.ab.ca>,Blake Patton
<pat...@spots.ca>, Bob Swingle <rob...@internode.ca>,Cathy Cassidy
<ca...@spots.ab.ca>, clar...@shaw.ca,"Column (Promotion)"
<col...@latech.net>, Darcy <sab...@hotmail.com>,Dave Durant
<ddu...@spots.ca>,David Zradicka -- Wuta international
<wu...@wuta.com>,deanna&greg <gre...@spots.ca>,
debia...@lists.debian.org,Don Cottrell <d...@geophysicalservice.com>,Don
Gallaher <lase...@positiveprinter.com>,dsgreen <dsg...@spots.ca>, Eric
Boley <ba...@famvid.com>,Ernie Toews <eht...@spots.ca>,Gail Helmer
<gail_...@isys-group.com>,Gene Orlick <ge...@orlicks.com>, Gina Winn
<wi...@spots.ab.ca>,Harvey Lalach <har...@quarryoilandgas.com>,Howard Darby
<gunfi...@shaw.ca>,"I like your pants around your feet-ITS A
SONG....pervert" <archie_m...@hotmail.com>,James Chevrette
<jchev...@hotmail.com>,James Chevrette <jchev...@telus.net>, Janeen
<bu...@spots.ca>,Jason Marshall <mars...@spots.ab.ca>,Jean MacDougall
<slm...@shaw.ca>,Jean Marshall <jmar...@spots.ab.ca>,Jeff Torrance
<JTor...@csi-wireless.com>,Jim Cooper <ker...@spots.ca>, Joan Sweeney
<swe...@ucalgary.ca>,joe_p...@btopenworld.com, John Post
<jo...@marine-boy.nu>,Johnny Prybar <jo...@spots.ca>, Joshua Prowse
<bro...@spots.ca>,Julia Allen <ju...@ocelot.spots.ab.ca>,"K. and R. Visser"
<kand...@spots.ca>,Kathie Stoner <kath...@spots.ca>,Kelli Erasmus
<kelli....@dsicalgary.com>,Kerrie Basarab
<kba...@ocelot.spots.ab.ca>,Kerrie Basarab
<kerrie....@chariotenergy.com>,Kevin Chichak
<kevin_...@isys-group.com>, Kevin...@aol.com,Kimberly Doepker
<kdoe...@spots.ca>, Laureen <lau...@spots.ca>,Liane Harcourt
<lhar...@gnel.CA>,Liz Crawford <lcra...@coppock.ca>, m II
<ohmwork...@spots.ca>,Mail Delivery Subsystem
<MAILER...@toad.spots.ab.ca>,Margot Schulman
<schulma...@telus.net>,Maureen Duffy <man...@absheep.com>,Megan Byers
<megan...@webnology.ca>,Melanie <mel...@graffixstop.com>, Melanie
<kol...@shaw.ca>,Melanie's Office
<off...@graffixstop.com>,michel...@summit-tubulars.com, Mikey
<moose...@hotmail.com>,Pablo Judd <pj...@csi-wireless.com>, Pato
<pat...@yahoo.ca>,Patrick Starrenburg
<Patrick-d-107...@Starrenburg.name>,Peter Spinner
<pspi...@spots.ca>,Pilsum Master <PMa...@csi-wireless.com>,"Put my ModChip
back in, but it still doesn't work...:(" <esta...@hotmail.com>,Rick Jenkins
<ri...@hartmantech.com>, Rob Gibson <rgi...@spots.ca>,Robert Marshall
<rmar...@spots.ca>,Robert Swingle -- Internode <rob...@spots.ca>,Robert
Ward <ward...@yahoo.com>, Roger Hough <ro...@hough.ca>,Ronald Holmes
<holm...@spots.ca>,Root -- Spots <ro...@cheetah.spots.ab.ca>, Ryanr
<Ry...@kamcc.com>,ryan...@telus.net, "S. West"
<sw...@chariotenergy.com>,Sam Halas <SHa...@csi-wireless.com>, Scott
<Sc...@drscada.com>,sup...@spots.ab.ca, sup...@spots.ca, Tara
<tari...@hotmail.com>,Thedrawguy <tjs...@shaw.ca>, thumper
<tanyah...@hotmail.com>,Tina <ti...@hendrick.ca>,"Tobin -
172lbs...still." <tobinwh...@msn.com>,ua_c...@cheetah.spots.ab.ca,
Vangua...@vanguard.com,"Vohaul..chinook is back...ahhhh" <voh...@shaw.ca>

• In-reply-to: <003a01c3f585$7635f910$6da873d1@AMD2600>
• Mail-followup-to: "WADE @ Spots" <wmar...@spots.ab.ca>,"(h) Bill (b)"
<hihw...@hotmail.com>,"Abounader, Selim" <Selim.A...@morpho.com>,"Adam
- Holy Comeback, Batman! The Canucks beat Tampa!"
<adamas...@hotmail.com>,Air Mattreses Suck <justin...@msn.com>,Alisha
McIsaac <ali...@fire-creek.com>,Audrey Prawdzik-Bergen <ber...@spots.ca>,"B
& B Strub (Canada)" <bst...@searchbug.com>,Beth
<bethhum...@hotmail.com>,Bill & Ivy Crawford
<bcra...@spots.ab.ca>,Bill Crawford <BCra...@alberta-cu.com>,Bill
Crawford <bc...@spots.ca>, Blake Patton <pat...@spots.ab.ca>,Blake Patton
<pat...@spots.ca>, Bob Swingle <rob...@internode.ca>,Cathy Cassidy
<ca...@spots.ab.ca>, clar...@shaw.ca,"Column (Promotion)"
<col...@latech.net>, Darcy <sab...@hotmail.com>,Dave Durant
<ddu...@spots.ca>,David Zradicka -- Wuta international
<wu...@wuta.com>,deanna&greg <gre...@spots.ca>,
debia...@lists.debian.org,Don Cottrell <d...@geophysicalservice.com>,Don
Gallaher <lase...@positiveprinter.com>,dsgreen <dsg...@spots.ca>, Eric
Boley <ba...@famvid.com>,Ernie Toews <eht...@spots.ca>,Gail Helmer
<gail_...@isys-group.com>,Gene Orlick <ge...@orlicks.com>, Gina Winn
<wi...@spots.ab.ca>,Harvey Lalach <har...@quarryoilandgas.com>,Howard Darby
<gunfi...@shaw.ca>,"I like your pants around your feet-ITS A
SONG....pervert" <archie_m...@hotmail.com>,James Chevrette
<jchev...@hotmail.com>,James Chevrette <jchev...@telus.net>, Janeen
<bu...@spots.ca>,Jason Marshall <mars...@spots.ab.ca>,Jean MacDougall
<slm...@shaw.ca>,Jean Marshall <jmar...@spots.ab.ca>,Jeff Torrance
<JTor...@csi-wireless.com>,Jim Cooper <ker...@spots.ca>, Joan Sweeney
<swe...@ucalgary.ca>,joe_p...@btopenworld.com, John Post
<jo...@marine-boy.nu>,Johnny Prybar <jo...@spots.ca>, Joshua Prowse
<bro...@spots.ca>,Julia Allen <ju...@ocelot.spots.ab.ca>,"K. and R. Visser"
<kand...@spots.ca>,Kathie Stoner <kath...@spots.ca>,Kelli Erasmus
<kelli....@dsicalgary.com>,Kerrie Basarab
<kba...@ocelot.spots.ab.ca>,Kerrie Basarab
<kerrie....@chariotenergy.com>,Kevin Chichak
<kevin_...@isys-group.com>, Kevin...@aol.com,Kimberly Doepker
<kdoe...@spots.ca>, Laureen <lau...@spots.ca>,Liane Harcourt
<lhar...@gnel.CA>,Liz Crawford <lcra...@coppock.ca>, m II
<ohmwork...@spots.ca>,Mail Delivery Subsystem
<MAILER...@toad.spots.ab.ca>,Margot Schulman
<schulma...@telus.net>,Maureen Duffy <man...@absheep.com>,Megan Byers
<megan...@webnology.ca>,Melanie <mel...@graffixstop.com>, Melanie
<kol...@shaw.ca>,Melanie's Office
<off...@graffixstop.com>,michel...@summit-tubulars.com, Mikey
<moose...@hotmail.com>,Pablo Judd <pj...@csi-wireless.com>, Pato
<pat...@yahoo.ca>,Patrick Starrenburg
<Patrick-d-107...@Starrenburg.name>,Peter Spinner
<pspi...@spots.ca>,Pilsum Master <PMa...@csi-wireless.com>,"Put my ModChip
back in, but it still doesn't work...:(" <esta...@hotmail.com>,Rick Jenkins
<ri...@hartmantech.com>, Rob Gibson <rgi...@spots.ca>,Robert Marshall
<rmar...@spots.ca>,Robert Swingle -- Internode <rob...@spots.ca>,Robert
Ward <ward...@yahoo.com>, Roger Hough <ro...@hough.ca>,Ronald Holmes
<holm...@spots.ca>,Root -- Spots <ro...@cheetah.spots.ab.ca>, Ryanr
<Ry...@kamcc.com>,ryan...@telus.net, "S. West"
<sw...@chariotenergy.com>,Sam Halas <SHa...@csi-wireless.com>, Scott
<Sc...@drscada.com>,sup...@spots.ab.ca, sup...@spots.ca, Tara
<tari...@hotmail.com>,Thedrawguy <tjs...@shaw.ca>, thumper
<tanyah...@hotmail.com>,Tina <ti...@hendrick.ca>,"Tobin -
172lbs...still." <tobinwh...@msn.com>,ua_c...@cheetah.spots.ab.ca,
Vangua...@vanguard.com,"Vohaul..chinook is back...ahhhh" <voh...@shaw.ca>

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On Tue, Feb 17, 2004 at 11:39:54AM -0700, WADE @ Spots wrote:
> Sorry guys.. doing a test on a message and it exploded in my face.
>
> DO NOT INSTALL THE ATTACHMENT... Malicious Worm.

Here's an idea...go get your site's postmaster to do his job already
and reject viruses at SMTP time. If he refuses, ask him (and his
boss) why he can't be bothered to do his job.

http://ursine.ca/~baloo/clamd-exiscan.txt

Or, since you're posting to debian-user already[1], why not just switch
to Debian and save yourself the virus headache? We'd be glad to help.

http://debian.org/


[1]
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/debian-user-200402/msg03223.html

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.''`. Paul Johnson <ba...@ursine.ca>
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`. `'` proud Debian admin and user
`- Debian - when you have better things to do than fix a system
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hen...@topoi.pooq.com

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Jan 11, 2007, 9:30:11 PM1/11/07
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On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 06:44:31PM -0700, Kevin Chichak wrote:
>
> Here's an idea...go get your site's postmaster to do his job already
> and reject viruses at SMTP time. If he refuses, ask him (and his
> boss) why he can't be bothered to do his job.
>
> http://ursine.ca/~baloo/clamd-exiscan.txt

firefox tells me

Not Found

The requested URL /Rejecting_Viruses_The_Right_Way was not found on this
server.
Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) mod_fastcgi/2.4.2 PHP/5.2.0-8 Server at ursine.ca
Port 80

-- hendrik

Andrew Sackville-West

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Jan 11, 2007, 10:00:17 PM1/11/07
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On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 06:44:31PM -0700, Kevin Chichak wrote:
> Can you please Remove the following thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From
> your server.

It makes sense that you want the thread removed because you've
splattered your entire address book up there. I understand that. What
I don't get though, is why, in a public list, you would DO THE SAME
THING BY QUOTING THE WHOLE FREAKING MESSAGE AGAIN!!!

that's just ridiculous. further more, how and why would any of us, the
subscribers of debian-USER have any control over this list? we are,
after all, only subscribers, not admins. You might get much farther if
you were to, say, I don't know, contact the LISTMASTER?!

why don't you go to lists.debian.org and look around a bit. I'll give
you a hint: its an email address for listmaster. A nicely worded
explanation of the situation may resolve the matter handily.

but that's just me.

A

[snipped silly replastering of OP's friends and family email address]

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Greg Folkert

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Jan 12, 2007, 1:00:14 AM1/12/07
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Top posting on purpose.

Kevin Chicak, please read the lists.debian.org disclaimer!

http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/disclaimer

Quote:

By sending an email to such a public forum, you agree to public
distribution of your article. All mails sent to any of our
mailing lists (and to the bug tracking system) will be publicly
distributed and archived in our mailing list archives.

Any emails sent by any one person directly to the list, or
replies by others to those emails sent to the list, are
considered published, in accordance with the United States law.

Obviously the author still owns the copyright to the content of
these emails that they have written. However, that does not mean
that the Debian Project is under obligation to remove them from
a list archive once published. Several legal counsels have
reviewed this stance and confirmed it is correct.

The mailing list archives have been public well before you sent
a message to that mailing list address. You are responsible for
determining who it is you are sending your email to. You cannot
send email to arbitrary recipients and expect that they are
automatically forced into accepting your terms for receiving
your email.

Debian accepts no responsibility for the opinions and
information posted on its mailing lists by others.

Debian disclaims all warranties with regard to information
posted on its mailing lists, whether posted by Debian or others;
this disclaimer includes all implied warranties of
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for any special, indirect or consequential damages, or damages
of any kind whatsoever, resulting from loss of use, data or
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information posted on a Debian mailing list.

By posting material, the posting party warrants and represents
that it owns the copyright with respect to such material, has
received permission from the copyright owner, or that the
material is in the public domain. The posting party further
warrants and represents that it otherwise has the full and
unencumbered right to post such material and that such posting
will not infringe any rights or interests of others.

Debian does not generally monitor its mailing lists for
inappropriate postings, and does not undertake editorial control
of postings. We do, however, reserve the right to prevent
posting to mailing lists in the event of failure to comply with
the mailing list code of conduct.

Some spam and virus filtering is applied to every message that
goes through Debian lists. Roughly 1 in 400 messages that are
sent to the list actually make it through; the rest are
discarded as spam.

Your requests are falling on deaf ears. And the legal authority to back
the deafness.

Please refrain from making this futile request again, as it looks bad
for you and you alone.


On Thu, 2007-01-11 at 18:44 -0700, Kevin Chichak wrote:
> Can you please Remove the following thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From
> your server.
>
>
>
>
>
> Top of Form
>
>
> [Date Prev][Date Next] [Thread Prev][Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread
> Index]
> Bottom of Form
> Re: DON'T OPEN THE PREVIOUS MESSSAGE FROM ME!!!!!!!!!!! VIRUS
> ________________________________________
> • To: "WADE @ Spots" <wmar...@spots.ab.ca>
> • Subject: Re: DON'T OPEN THE PREVIOUS MESSSAGE FROM ME!!!!!!!!!!! VIRUS
> • From: Paul Johnson <ba...@ursine.ca>
> • Date: Tue, 17 Feb 2004 12:09:38 -0800

[...SNIP...]
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Paul Johnson

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Jan 12, 2007, 9:10:08 PM1/12/07
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Kevin Chichak wrote:

> Can you please Remove the following thread!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! From
> your server.

No, archives cannot be removed. Plus, this list is archived on literally
hundreds of sites: Getting it removed here would not get it removed
everywhere. Never post anything you don't want the world to see forever.

Paul Johnson

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Jan 12, 2007, 9:20:08 PM1/12/07
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hen...@topoi.pooq.com wrote:

> On Thu, Jan 11, 2007 at 06:44:31PM -0700, Kevin Chichak wrote:
>>
>> Here's an idea...go get your site's postmaster to do his job already
>> and reject viruses at SMTP time. If he refuses, ask him (and his
>> boss) why he can't be bothered to do his job.
>>
>> http://ursine.ca/~baloo/clamd-exiscan.txt
>
> firefox tells me
>
> Not Found
>
> The requested URL /Rejecting_Viruses_The_Right_Way was not found on this
> server.
> Apache/2.2.3 (Debian) mod_fastcgi/2.4.2 PHP/5.2.0-8 Server at ursine.ca
> Port 80

http://wiki.ursine.ca/Rejecting_Viruses_The_Right_Way is the correct URL
now. I forgot to update my .htaccess...

Greg Folkert

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Jan 13, 2007, 1:50:05 AM1/13/07
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On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 20:19 -0700, Kevin Chichak wrote:
> THANKS!FOR NOTHING! What's the purpose of keeping the thread. I did not send
> the thread some other crack pot did.

Public record, that is all.

Are you DAFT? Did you READ the DISCLAIMER from Debian?

http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/disclaimer

A Quote of the fourth paragraph:

Obviously the author still owns the copyright to the content of
these emails that they have written. However, that does not mean
that the Debian Project is under obligation to remove them from
a list archive once published. Several legal counsels have
reviewed this stance and confirmed it is correct.

This was written by Debian's Legal counsel (Lawyers). I guess you didn't
read it. Or maybe I guess you have some type of reading comprehension
disability. I am sorry for that.

It matters not WHO sent it. I am NOT the one to complain to, in any
case. I USE Debian Linux. I am NOT an Admin of lists.debian.org. Never
have been never want to be.

Please refrain from making this request again, as it'll be ignored just
like this time, by the Debian admin team.

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