alt F2 in kde does not work

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
KDE?

My machine is a mixture of Stable and Testing.

% dpkg -l kde-full konsole
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version
Architecture Description
+++-======================================-========================-========================-==================================================================================
ii kde-full 5:91
all complete KDE Software Compilation for end
users
ii konsole 4:16.04.2-1
amd64 X terminal emulator

% inxi -r
Repos: Active apt sources in file: /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main contrib non-free
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch main
contrib non-free
deb http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates
main contrib non-free
deb-src http://httpredir.debian.org/debian/ stretch-updates
main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main contrib non-free
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stretch/updates main
contrib non-free

thanks
raju
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[Frédéric Marchal]

On Thursday 20 October 2016 00:07:25 kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
> The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
> which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
> KDE?

Have you checked the global keyboard shortcuts ?

Start the "System Settings". Click on the "Shortcuts and Gestures" icon.
Select the "Global Keyboard Shortcut" section on the left. In The "Kde
component" drop down list, select "Run Command Interface". On my KDE, the "Run
Command" entry is set to Alt+F2.

Frederic

[Jimmy Johnson]

On 10/19/2016 09:07 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
> The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
> which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
> KDE?

Did you try Ctrl+Alt+F2? That's what's always worked for me.

Jimmy Johnson

Debian Sid/Testing - KDE Plasma Version 5.8.2 - EXT4 at sda15
Registered Linux User #380263

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 4:45 AM, Jimmy Johnson <field.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 10/19/2016 09:07 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
>>
>> When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
>> The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
>> which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
>> KDE?
>
>
> Did you try Ctrl+Alt+F2? That's what's always worked for me.
>

That does not work for here. Ctrl+Alt+F2 takes me to the virtual
console 2. It is a black screen asking for login and password.

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

When I do K button -> "System Settings" there is no "Shortcuts and
Gestures" icon. Even if I search for "Shortcuts and Gestures" in the
search window on the top right of "System Settings" window, nothing
happens. What is the name of the program that runs "System Settings"?
Perhaps we can compare versions of the two between our systems.

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 00:07:25 -0400
kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mai...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello kamaraju,

>When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
>The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
>which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
>KDE?

Is it just konsole that fails to run, or does the problem affect other
issued commands/programs?

If it's just konsole, there may be a konsole running that didn't quit
cleanly. Check you system activity for a running konsole (I use
KSysGuard to check). If konsole exists, kill it, then try issuing the
command via alt-f2 again.

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[Hans]

Is konsole installed? It is a seperated package!

Hans

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 01:45:13 -0700
Jimmy Johnson <field.e...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello Jimmy,

>Did you try Ctrl+Alt+F2? That's what's always worked for me.

That's for something very different from what the OP is after, unless
I've misread the post. AIUI, OP wants to run KDE's konsole (with a k),
not start a console (with a c).

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[rhkr...@gmail.com]

> > On 10/19/2016 09:07 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> >> When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
> >> The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
> >> which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
> >> KDE?

I don't know offhand, but have some questions:

* Presumably you can start a konsole from the K menu using the mouse?

* Can you start a konsole from within that konsole, by typing konsole at
the prompt? If not, does it work if you su to root?

* Can you start any other applications from <alt><F2> textbox?

I suspect that your problem is not with the <alt>F2> functionaolity but
instead with konsole, but answers to the above questions will help?

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:29:05 +0200
Hans <hans.u...@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>Is konsole installed? It is a seperated package!

Good point.

Although I get the impression that it once worked, but doesn't now. I
could be mistaken in that belief, of course.

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[Hans]

And not forget to mention: Alt-F2 does not start konsole (on all my systems),
it starts a little input window, where I have to / can input my wanted command
(like konsole, or xterm whatever)

Best

Hans

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:42:31 +0200

Hans <hans.u...@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>And not forget to mention: Alt-F2 does not start konsole (on all my
>systems), it starts a little input window, where I have to / can input
>my wanted command (like konsole, or xterm whatever)

Which is exactly what the OP was expecting to happen. Again, IIUC.

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[Hans]

Am Donnerstag, 20. Oktober 2016, 15:15:49 CEST schrieb Brad Rogers:
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 14:42:31 +0200

> Which is exactly what the OP was expecting to happen. Again, IIUC.

Ok, I understand. Maybe this will help:

I sometimes in the past had had the problem, that konsole did not want to
start. However, it worked, when I started Alt-F2, then started Xterm. Within
xterm I could start konsole, which did not want to start from the icon.

This also got the advantage, that I saw any error messages and saw what
happened. When this does not show enough information, you can start konsole
with strace (strace konsole). Mostly then konsole started. If it is starting,
then close everything and REBOOT (do not just start kde again, reboot!)

Maybe it is a rights problem? Just do "su -p" and you can start any
application, even graphical apps, as a normal user. Maybe this shows also more
information.

Hope this helps a little bit.

Happy hacking!

Hans

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 16:40:23 +0200

Hans <hans.u...@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>I sometimes in the past had had the problem, that konsole did not want
>to start. However, it worked, when I started Alt-F2, then started
>Xterm. Within xterm I could start konsole, which did not want to start
>from the icon.

This sounds much like I experienced too. I discovered that killing a
konsole that shut down improperly was the culprit. I've never got to
the bottom of it(1) but finding, and killing that konsole, with KSysGuard
solved the problem.

(1) Sometimes, konsole crashed on exit, but I'm not 100% sure that this
was always the case when konsole would not start subsequently(2).

(2) The problem hasn't occurred here for several months, so I've not
been able to check.

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[Hans]

Hi Brad,

> This sounds much like I experienced too. I discovered that killing a
> konsole that shut down improperly was the culprit. I've never got to
> the bottom of it(1) but finding, and killing that konsole, with KSysGuard
> solved the problem.
>

yeah, ksysguard is one of my favourite tools. It is working, even when kill -9
something does not work. Don't know, how they managed, to be able to do this.
Great tool!

> (1) Sometimes, konsole crashed on exit, but I'm not 100% sure that this
> was always the case when konsole would not start subsequently(2).
>

Confirmed. I believe, something is left over, when konsole is not ended
properly. By starting konsole again, I think, these parts are overwritten and
deleted when the next normal ending of konsole was initiated.

> (2) The problem hasn't occurred here for several months, so I've not
> been able to check.

Also confirmed. I am running debian/testing and konsole is starting well for
months.

Sometimes too often :-) (I suppose, you know about the bug with konsole and
nvidia driver).

Best

Hans

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 17:21:21 +0200

Hans <hans.u...@loop.de> wrote:

Hello Hans,

>Sometimes too often :-) (I suppose, you know about the bug with konsole
>and nvidia driver).

No, I didn't. I did a quick search to find out. Since I always close
konsole by typing 'exit' (several reports it reduces the likelihood
of the problem arising) rather than by simply closing the window, I may
have got lucky and avoided the problem.

I *do* have an nVidia GPU, BTW. :-)

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[Jimmy Johnson]

In gtk and kde Alt+F2 brings up the run dialog, it's easier for me to
click on the icon from the Start-menu or or Quick-launch, but I'm a
point and click guy. I'll shut-up now. :)
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[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:21 AM, Brad Rogers <br...@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 00:07:25 -0400

>>When I press alt F2 and enter konsole in the window, nothing happens.
>>The expected behaviour is to start a konsole window. Does anyone know
>>which command/package is responsible for the alt+F2 functionality in
>>KDE?
>
> Is it just konsole that fails to run, or does the problem affect other
> issued commands/programs?
>

It is the same problem with any other application. For example, I
tried gvim, konqueror, ksysguard and they do not start either.

> If it's just konsole, there may be a konsole running that didn't quit
> cleanly. Check you system activity for a running konsole (I use
> KSysGuard to check). If konsole exists, kill it, then try issuing the
> command via alt-f2 again.
>

No, it is the other way around. Something is wrong with the
application that starts when we press Alt+F2.

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Hans <hans.u...@loop.de> wrote:
> Is konsole installed? It is a seperated package!
>
> Hans
>

Yes, of course. I showed the version of konsole installed in my
original post. Here it is again, just in case.

rajulocal@hogwarts ~ % dpkg -l konsole

Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Architecture Description

+++-====================-===============-===============-=============================================

ii konsole 4:16.04.2-1 amd64 X terminal emulator

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:31 AM, <rhkr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know offhand, but have some questions:
>

Sure!

> * Presumably you can start a konsole from the K menu using the mouse?

Yes. I can start konsole with K button -> Applications -> System -> konsole

> * Can you start a konsole from within that konsole, by typing konsole at
> the prompt? If not, does it work if you su to root?

It works. But there are some warnings on the original konsole when I do this.

rajulocal@hogwarts ~ % konsole
kf5.kcoreaddons.kaboutdata: Could not initialize the equivalent
properties of Q*Application: no instance (yet) existing.
Could not load profile from "/usr/share/kde4/apps/konsole/Shell.profile"

> * Can you start any other applications from <alt><F2> textbox?

No. I see the same issue with all the applications when trying to
start with Alt + F2

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:24 AM, Brad Rogers <br...@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2016 01:45:13 -0700
> Jimmy Johnson <field.e...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Jimmy,
>
>>Did you try Ctrl+Alt+F2? That's what's always worked for me.
>
> That's for something very different from what the OP is after, unless
> I've misread the post. AIUI, OP wants to run KDE's konsole (with a k),
> not start a console (with a c).
>

That is correct Brad. I am interested in starting konsole that comes
as part of KDE. I do not have any issues with the virtual console.

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:34 AM, Brad Rogers <br...@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
>
> Although I get the impression that it once worked, but doesn't now. I
> could be mistaken in that belief, of course.
>

That is correct, Brad! It used to work a while ago. But it stopped
working recently..

thaks

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

I know that Alt+F2 does not start konsole. What is happening is that
the little input window pops up when I press Alt+F2. But when I enter
konsole in it and press Enter key, nothing happens. That is the
problem.

[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 00:57:43 -0400

kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mai...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello kamaraju,

>No, it is the other way around. Something is wrong with the
>application that starts when we press Alt+F2.

I don't often use that method to launch programs myself, so I just tried
it out of curiosity. All I can tell you is that it works for me.
Software launches without problem from there.

Sadly, I have no idea where to look to diagnose what's wrong.

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[rhkr...@gmail.com]

On Friday, October 21, 2016 01:08:28 AM kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:
> No. I see the same issue with all the applications when trying to
> start with Alt + F2

Thanks for the reply, although I have no clue atm--sorry!

[Kushal Kumaran]

kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mai...@gmail.com> writes:

> On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 8:42 AM, Hans <hans.u...@loop.de> wrote:
>> And not forget to mention: Alt-F2 does not start konsole (on all my systems),
>> it starts a little input window, where I have to / can input my wanted command
>> (like konsole, or xterm whatever)
>>
>
> I know that Alt+F2 does not start konsole. What is happening is that
> the little input window pops up when I press Alt+F2. But when I enter
> konsole in it and press Enter key, nothing happens. That is the
> problem.

The little input window is the program called krunner. Using that term
in web searches might lead to more insight. You might also start
krunner from a shell and see if it produces any errors.

--
regards,
kushal

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 2:33 AM, Brad Rogers <br...@fineby.me.uk> wrote:
> On Fri, 21 Oct 2016 00:57:43 -0400
> kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mai...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello kamaraju,
>
>>No, it is the other way around. Something is wrong with the
>>application that starts when we press Alt+F2.
>
> I don't often use that method to launch programs myself, so I just tried
> it out of curiosity. All I can tell you is that it works for me.
> Software launches without problem from there.
>
> Sadly, I have no idea where to look to diagnose what's wrong.
>

Hi Brad,
If you do not mind, could you please provide the list of packages
installed on your machine? You can email it to me directly
(raju.mai...@gmail.com) or provide a link to download. I would
like to compare the list with mine.

The list can be obtained by running
dpkg -l | grep ^ii > installed_packages.txt

thanks

[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 8:16 AM, Kushal Kumaran <kus...@locationd.net> wrote:
> kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mai...@gmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>> I know that Alt+F2 does not start konsole. What is happening is that
>> the little input window pops up when I press Alt+F2. But when I enter
>> konsole in it and press Enter key, nothing happens. That is the
>> problem.
>
> The little input window is the program called krunner. Using that term
> in web searches might lead to more insight. You might also start
> krunner from a shell and see if it produces any errors.
>

Thanks Kushal. Now I have something to search for.

When I run krunner from the konsole terminal, the little input window
pops up but I see a segmentation fault on the terminal. That explains
why I can't launch any launch any applications from it.

rajulocal@hogwarts ~ % krunner
KCrash: crashing... crashRecursionCounter = 2
KCrash: Application Name = krunner path = /usr/bin pid = 4640
KCrash: Arguments: /usr/bin/krunner
zsh: segmentation fault krunner

[Brad Rogers]

On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 09:52:58 -0400

kamaraju kusumanchi <raju.mai...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello kamaraju,

>If you do not mind, could you please provide the list of packages

Sent off list.

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[kamaraju kusumanchi]

On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 10:01 AM, kamaraju kusumanchi
<raju.mai...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Kushal. Now I have something to search for.
>
> When I run krunner from the konsole terminal, the little input window
> pops up but I see a segmentation fault on the terminal. That explains
> why I can't launch any launch any applications from it.
>
> rajulocal@hogwarts ~ % krunner
> KCrash: crashing... crashRecursionCounter = 2
> KCrash: Application Name = krunner path = /usr/bin pid = 4640
> KCrash: Arguments: /usr/bin/krunner
> zsh: segmentation fault krunner
>

Looks like someone already filed a bug report on this:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=829614#10 . I will
try the suggestions listed there and ping back if I need more help.

thanks
raju