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Paul Isambert
Nov 27, 2011, 10:30:02 AM11/27/11
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Hello,
I've installed gVim with Xfce. My shortcuts made of Ctrl-F1 to Ctrl-F12
and Alt-F1 to Alt-F12 doesn't work. Instead, they seem to be executed
for Xfce: I've noticed that because Alt-F2 launches an app in Xfce, and
that's what happens in gVim too.
So is it possible to give control to all shortcuts to gVim?
Best,
Paul
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I've installed gVim with Xfce. My shortcuts made of Ctrl-F1 to Ctrl-F12
and Alt-F1 to Alt-F12 doesn't work. Instead, they seem to be executed
for Xfce: I've noticed that because Alt-F2 launches an app in Xfce, and
that's what happens in gVim too.
So is it possible to give control to all shortcuts to gVim?
Best,
Paul
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Paul Isambert
Nov 27, 2011, 10:50:01 AM11/27/11
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Thank you Roman.
Removing Alt-F2 in the shortcut settings did give me some Alt-shortcuts back, but Ctrl-shortcuts still won't work, even when I remove everything in the settings. Any idea?
Paul
On 27/11/2011 16:41, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
Removing Alt-F2 in the shortcut settings did give me some Alt-shortcuts back, but Ctrl-shortcuts still won't work, even when I remove everything in the settings. Any idea?
Paul
On 27/11/2011 16:41, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
Hi,
Yes, Xfce does still some shortcuts (never came acroos problems with F1 to F12). you can define Xfce specific shortcuts in settings -> keyboard so that they wont interfere with yours.
Regards-------------Roman
Roman Khomasuridze
Nov 27, 2011, 10:50:02 AM11/27/11
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Hi,
Yes, Xfce does still some shortcuts (never came acroos problems with F1 to F12). you can define Xfce specific shortcuts in settings -> keyboard so that they wont interfere with yours.
Regards
-------------
Roman
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Paul Isambert <zappat...@free.fr> wrote:
Hello,
I've installed gVim with Xfce. My shortcuts made of Ctrl-F1 to Ctrl-F12 and Alt-F1 to Alt-F12 doesn't work. Instead, they seem to be executed for Xfce: I've noticed that because Alt-F2 launches an app in Xfce, and that's what happens in gVim too.
So is it possible to give control to all shortcuts to gVim?
Best,
Paul
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Roman Khomasuridze
Nov 27, 2011, 1:10:01 PM11/27/11
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Sorry, forgot to mention that in previous post..see settings -> window manager -> keyboard. there are bunch of <cntrl> related shortcuts there. remove them and you'll be all set up.
Regards
-------------
roman
Lorenzo Sutton
Nov 28, 2011, 6:20:01 AM11/28/11
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Hi,
On 27/11/11 16:48, Paul Isambert wrote:
> Thank you Roman.
>
> Removing Alt-F2 in the shortcut settings did give me some Alt-shortcuts
> back, but Ctrl-shortcuts still won't work, even when I remove everything
> in the settings. Any idea?
I also came across this trying to use Inkscape. The CTRL + Fn key
shortcuts are by default take by the Workspace n shortcuts. These are
defined in the Settings > Window Manager menu under the Keyboard tab
Hope this helps,
Lorenzo.
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>>
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On 27/11/11 16:48, Paul Isambert wrote:
> Thank you Roman.
>
> Removing Alt-F2 in the shortcut settings did give me some Alt-shortcuts
> back, but Ctrl-shortcuts still won't work, even when I remove everything
> in the settings. Any idea?
shortcuts are by default take by the Workspace n shortcuts. These are
defined in the Settings > Window Manager menu under the Keyboard tab
Hope this helps,
Lorenzo.
>
> Paul
>
> On 27/11/2011 16:41, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, Xfce does still some shortcuts (never came acroos problems with
>> F1 to F12). you can define Xfce specific shortcuts in settings ->
>> keyboard so that they wont interfere with yours.
>>
>> Regards
>> -------------
>> Roman
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Paul Isambert <zappat...@free.fr
>> <mailto:zappat...@free.fr>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've installed gVim with Xfce. My shortcuts made of Ctrl-F1 to
>> Ctrl-F12 and Alt-F1 to Alt-F12 doesn't work. Instead, they seem to
>> be executed for Xfce: I've noticed that because Alt-F2 launches an
>> app in Xfce, and that's what happens in gVim too.
>>
>> So is it possible to give control to all shortcuts to gVim?
>>
>> Best,
>> Paul
>>
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>
> On 27/11/2011 16:41, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Yes, Xfce does still some shortcuts (never came acroos problems with
>> F1 to F12). you can define Xfce specific shortcuts in settings ->
>> keyboard so that they wont interfere with yours.
>>
>> Regards
>> -------------
>> Roman
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Paul Isambert <zappat...@free.fr
>> <mailto:zappat...@free.fr>> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I've installed gVim with Xfce. My shortcuts made of Ctrl-F1 to
>> Ctrl-F12 and Alt-F1 to Alt-F12 doesn't work. Instead, they seem to
>> be executed for Xfce: I've noticed that because Alt-F2 launches an
>> app in Xfce, and that's what happens in gVim too.
>>
>> So is it possible to give control to all shortcuts to gVim?
>>
>> Best,
>> Paul
>>
>>
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Paul Isambert
Nov 28, 2011, 7:20:01 AM11/28/11
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Le 28/11/2011 12:08, Lorenzo Sutton a écrit :
> Hi,
>
> On 27/11/11 16:48, Paul Isambert wrote:
>> Thank you Roman.
>>
>> Removing Alt-F2 in the shortcut settings did give me some Alt-shortcuts
>> back, but Ctrl-shortcuts still won't work, even when I remove everything
>> in the settings. Any idea?
>
> I also came across this trying to use Inkscape. The CTRL + Fn key
> shortcuts are by default take by the Workspace n shortcuts. These are
> defined in the Settings > Window Manager menu under the Keyboard tab
It does, as did Roman's last mail, which unfortunately I've missed
> Hi,
>
> On 27/11/11 16:48, Paul Isambert wrote:
>> Thank you Roman.
>>
>> Removing Alt-F2 in the shortcut settings did give me some Alt-shortcuts
>> back, but Ctrl-shortcuts still won't work, even when I remove everything
>> in the settings. Any idea?
>
> I also came across this trying to use Inkscape. The CTRL + Fn key
> shortcuts are by default take by the Workspace n shortcuts. These are
> defined in the Settings > Window Manager menu under the Keyboard tab
because I was migrating Thunderbird. In the meanwhile, I've found a
solution using xfconf, but the window manager is much simpler.
Thanks both,
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Freeman
Nov 28, 2011, 7:20:02 PM11/28/11
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On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:01:09PM +0400, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
> Sorry, forgot to mention that in previous post..see settings -> window
> manager -> keyboard. there are bunch of <cntrl> related shortcuts there.
> remove them and you'll be all set up.
>
(Starting the bottom post protocol used here.)
> Sorry, forgot to mention that in previous post..see settings -> window
> manager -> keyboard. there are bunch of <cntrl> related shortcuts there.
> remove them and you'll be all set up.
>
That was helpful but I still haven't ever found, got working or successfully
entered under Xfce4 the <Control>space shortcut that is used by kupfer out
of the box in Gnome and Openbox. Although I do have <Super>space working
for gmrun. For that matter, I have never succeeded in getting any
<Control>xyz shortcut working under Xfce4.
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Jan 8, 2012, 8:00:02 PM1/8/12
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On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 04:13:37PM -0800, evenso wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:01:09PM +0400, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
> > Sorry, forgot to mention that in previous post..see settings -> window
> > manager -> keyboard. there are bunch of <cntrl> related shortcuts there.
> > remove them and you'll be all set up.
> >
>
> (Starting the bottom post protocol used here.)
>
> That was helpful but I still haven't ever found, got working or successfully
> entered under Xfce4 the <Control>space shortcut that is used by kupfer out
> of the box in Gnome and Openbox. Although I do have <Super>space working
> for gmrun. For that matter, I have never succeeded in getting any
> <Control>xyz shortcut working under Xfce4.
>
In case I am not the only person who didn't know this, I recently discovered
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:01:09PM +0400, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
> > Sorry, forgot to mention that in previous post..see settings -> window
> > manager -> keyboard. there are bunch of <cntrl> related shortcuts there.
> > remove them and you'll be all set up.
> >
>
> (Starting the bottom post protocol used here.)
>
> That was helpful but I still haven't ever found, got working or successfully
> entered under Xfce4 the <Control>space shortcut that is used by kupfer out
> of the box in Gnome and Openbox. Although I do have <Super>space working
> for gmrun. For that matter, I have never succeeded in getting any
> <Control>xyz shortcut working under Xfce4.
>
that the fxce4 term for the ctrl key is "Primary" .
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Gilbert Sullivan
Jan 9, 2012, 8:00:02 AM1/9/12
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On 01/08/2012 07:54 PM, Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 04:13:37PM -0800, evenso wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:01:09PM +0400, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
>>> Sorry, forgot to mention that in previous post..see settings -> window
>>> manager -> keyboard. there are bunch of <cntrl> related shortcuts there.
>>> remove them and you'll be all set up.
>>>
>>
>> (Starting the bottom post protocol used here.)
>>
>> That was helpful but I still haven't ever found, got working or successfully
>> entered under Xfce4 the <Control>space shortcut that is used by kupfer out
>> of the box in Gnome and Openbox. Although I do have <Super>space working
>> for gmrun. For that matter, I have never succeeded in getting any
>> <Control>xyz shortcut working under Xfce4.
>>
>
> In case I am not the only person who didn't know this, I recently discovered
> that the fxce4 term for the ctrl key is "Primary" .
>
To quote a little note that showed up in the aptitude scroll during
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 04:13:37PM -0800, evenso wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:01:09PM +0400, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
>>> Sorry, forgot to mention that in previous post..see settings -> window
>>> manager -> keyboard. there are bunch of <cntrl> related shortcuts there.
>>> remove them and you'll be all set up.
>>>
>>
>> (Starting the bottom post protocol used here.)
>>
>> That was helpful but I still haven't ever found, got working or successfully
>> entered under Xfce4 the <Control>space shortcut that is used by kupfer out
>> of the box in Gnome and Openbox. Although I do have <Super>space working
>> for gmrun. For that matter, I have never succeeded in getting any
>> <Control>xyz shortcut working under Xfce4.
>>
>
> In case I am not the only person who didn't know this, I recently discovered
> that the fxce4 term for the ctrl key is "Primary" .
>
installation of the latest libxfce4gui library to make its way into
Wheezy on my systems:
-----------------------------8<-----------------------------
libxfce4ui (4.8.0-4) unstable; urgency=low
Starting Gtk+ 2.24.7, the Control key often found on PC keyboards isn't
called 'Control' but 'Primary', breaking configured keyboard shortcuts
already set. If you experience this in Xfce (application not starting and
keyboard shortcut using Control key), just re-bind the various
shortcuts using the same keys combination. The shortcut will be
replaced by
the 'Primary' version and will work correctly.
-- Yves-Alexis Perez <cor...@debian.org> Mon, 28 Nov 2011 16:10:00 +0100
-----------------------------8<-----------------------------
All I needed to do to restore my keyboard shortcuts that used the <Ctrl>
key was to delete those shortcuts, and then re-create them. When you do
this you'll see that the left <Ctrl> key will be called <Primary>.
Regards,
Gilbert
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Aaron Toponce
Jan 9, 2012, 9:00:02 AM1/9/12
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On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 04:54:51PM -0800, Freeman wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 04:13:37PM -0800, evenso wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:01:09PM +0400, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
(snip)
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 04:13:37PM -0800, evenso wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 10:01:09PM +0400, Roman Khomasuridze wrote:
> > (Starting the bottom post protocol used here.)
Note, that you haven't properly bottom-posted, unless you have properly
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Freeman
Jan 9, 2012, 6:40:02 PM1/9/12
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However, I've noticed that Primary shortcut in Xfce4 are interfering with
some <Ctrl> shortcuts in mutt, even when the mutt window is not active.
This didn't with the same <Ctrl> shortcuts in Gnome because I wouldn't have
been able to use mutt effectively.
So Xfce4 is not respecting the window for Primary shortcuts or something is
different.
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Gilbert Sullivan
Jan 9, 2012, 7:30:02 PM1/9/12
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I don't use mutt, or anything else (apparently) that gets interfered
with, but I can see how that would be a bummer.
Is it possible that Mutt's integration (or lack thereof) into the DE
could be a part of the problem in this case?
If this makes no sense -- it is late (where I live), and I am taking
"medication".
;-)
Best regards,
Gilbert
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