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Norbert Gruener

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Dec 15, 2004, 7:50:17 AM12/15/04
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Hi all,

I have a "Samsung X10plus" laptop with the builtin ethernet interface
"Broadcom 4400 10/100BaseT". I am running the "Sarge" snapshot from
Dec 5th.

I have my laptop connected to the ethernet before I start booting.
After I had booted my system I submit the command

"mii-tool eth0"

and the respond is

No MIT transceiver present.


Then I start "eth0" manually (ifup eth0). Everything works fine. I
get a network connection. Now I stop it again (ifdown eth0) and I
unplug the ethernet cable. When I now submit the command "mii-tool
eth0" I get the answer I was expecting

eth0: no link


My question is why do I get the message "No MIT transceiver present"
right after the booting?

This behavior makes it impossible to detect if I am hooked to the
network and automatically startup my ethernet interface.

Any help or any pointer would be appreciated.

Thank you in advance,

Norbert
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Roel Schroeven

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Dec 15, 2004, 9:50:08 AM12/15/04
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Norbert Gruener wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a "Samsung X10plus" laptop with the builtin ethernet interface
> "Broadcom 4400 10/100BaseT". I am running the "Sarge" snapshot from
> Dec 5th.
>
> I have my laptop connected to the ethernet before I start booting.
> After I had booted my system I submit the command
>
> "mii-tool eth0"
>
> and the respond is
>
> No MIT transceiver present.

Perhaps the module (b44 I believe) is not yet loaded then?

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Skylar Thompson

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Dec 15, 2004, 11:40:05 PM12/15/04
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Norbert Gruener wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I have a "Samsung X10plus" laptop with the builtin ethernet interface
>"Broadcom 4400 10/100BaseT". I am running the "Sarge" snapshot from
>Dec 5th.
>
>I have my laptop connected to the ethernet before I start booting.
>After I had booted my system I submit the command
>
> "mii-tool eth0"
>
>and the respond is
>
> No MIT transceiver present.
>
>
>Then I start "eth0" manually (ifup eth0). Everything works fine. I
>get a network connection. Now I stop it again (ifdown eth0) and I
>unplug the ethernet cable. When I now submit the command "mii-tool
>eth0" I get the answer I was expecting
>
> eth0: no link
>
>
>My question is why do I get the message "No MIT transceiver present"
>right after the booting?
>
>This behavior makes it impossible to detect if I am hooked to the
>network and automatically startup my ethernet interface.
>
>Any help or any pointer would be appreciated.
>
>Thank you in advance
>
>

Weird. What kernel are you running? I have a Dell Poweredge 1750 with
two Broacam 5704s running the 2.6 kernel that works fine wrt mii-tool.

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Norbert Gruener

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Dec 16, 2004, 1:40:08 AM12/16/04
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On Thu, Dec 16 2004, Skylar Thompson wrote:
> Norbert Gruener wrote:
> >
> >My question is why do I get the message "No MIT transceiver present"
> >right after the booting?
> >
> >This behavior makes it impossible to detect if I am hooked to the
> >network and automatically startup my ethernet interface.
> >
>
> Weird. What kernel are you running? I have a Dell Poweredge 1750 with
> two Broacam 5704s running the 2.6 kernel that works fine wrt mii-tool.

It's kernel 2.4.27 which is part of Sarge.

Norbert
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Skylar Thompson

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Dec 16, 2004, 1:50:09 AM12/16/04
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Norbert Gruener wrote:

>It's kernel 2.4.27 which is part of Sarge.
>
>

Weird. A friend of mine has a Dell laptop with a Broadcom 4400 running
Debian Woody with the v2.4. I'll see if I can take a look at the boot
sequence when she's in town next week, and let you know what I see. I
don't remember seeing it, but I've never looked for it either.

Roel Schroeven

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Dec 16, 2004, 10:00:24 AM12/16/04
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Norbert Gruener wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have a "Samsung X10plus" laptop with the builtin ethernet interface
> "Broadcom 4400 10/100BaseT". I am running the "Sarge" snapshot from
> Dec 5th.
>
> I have my laptop connected to the ethernet before I start booting.
> After I had booted my system I submit the command
>
> "mii-tool eth0"
>
> and the respond is
>
> No MIT transceiver present.

I tried it, and my machine exhibits exactly the same behavior (with
kernel 2.6.8-1-686). I don't know what's causing it.

Anyway, I installed laptop-net for automatically starting the network,
and it seems to work just fine.

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Skylar Thompson

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Dec 24, 2004, 9:30:07 PM12/24/04
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Skylar Thompson wrote:

> Norbert Gruener wrote:
>
>> It's kernel 2.4.27 which is part of Sarge.
>>
>>
> Weird. A friend of mine has a Dell laptop with a Broadcom 4400 running
> Debian Woody with the v2.4. I'll see if I can take a look at the boot
> sequence when she's in town next week, and let you know what I see. I
> don't remember seeing it, but I've never looked for it either.
>

I got a hold of the laptop, and noticed that error too. I upgraded it to
v2.6, and still saw the error. It looks like it might be an issue with
the NETDEV WATCHDOG (which I'm guessing reacts to state changes in the
NIC). The state for the NIC when the driver is initially loaded is set
to down, and it takes a few seconds for the watchdog to switch the state
to up.

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Norbert Gruener

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Dec 27, 2004, 3:30:11 AM12/27/04
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Hi Skylar,

thank you for your effort. I really appreciated your help. I think I
got a feeling what is going wrong. So I will do some more testing.

Thank you very much,

Norbert
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