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pe...@easthope.ca

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Apr 21, 2021, 11:20:04 AM4/21/21
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Hi,

Installed Zoom in Debian 10.

Checked dependancies listed here.
https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Zoom-on-Linux

A right click on the video camera icon and release on "Join Meeting..." gives
the window in this screenshot.
http://easthope.ca/ZoomJoinMeeting2021-04-21.png

Ideas welcome.

Thx, ... P.



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Greg Wooledge

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Apr 21, 2021, 11:30:03 AM4/21/21
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:01:02AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> Installed Zoom in Debian 10.
> [...]
> Ideas welcome.

Instead of installing the Zoom package, try just using Zoom inside
a web browser. I've used it inside Google Chrome without any problems.
I can't vouch for how it will behave in Firefox or Chromium, but it's
gotta be better than the third-party package.

to...@tuxteam.de

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Apr 21, 2021, 11:50:03 AM4/21/21
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Firefox worked here, too. Note that Zoom wants to coax you into
using their "full client", thus the web client has a slightly
reduced interface. But it does its job.

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Richmond

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Apr 21, 2021, 12:10:04 PM4/21/21
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pe...@easthope.ca writes:

> Hi,
>
> Installed Zoom in Debian 10.
>
> Checked dependancies listed here.
> https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Zoom-on-Linux
>
> A right click on the video camera icon and release on "Join Meeting..." gives
> the window in this screenshot.
> http://easthope.ca/ZoomJoinMeeting2021-04-21.png
>
> Ideas welcome.
>
> Thx, ... P.

I downloaded zoom_amd64.deb from zoom.us and installed it using apt I
think. It checks dependencies for you.

sudo apt install ~/Downloads/zoom_amd64.deb

Curt

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Apr 21, 2021, 1:00:04 PM4/21/21
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On 2021-04-21, pe...@easthope.ca <pe...@easthope.ca> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Installed Zoom in Debian 10.
>
> Checked dependancies listed here.
> https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Zoom-on-Linux
>
> A right click on the video camera icon and release on "Join Meeting..." gives
> the window in this screenshot.
> http://easthope.ca/ZoomJoinMeeting2021-04-21.png
>
> Ideas welcome.
>
> Thx, ... P.

https://www.mail-archive.com/debia...@lists.debian.org/msg761832.html

Cindy Sue Causey

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Apr 21, 2021, 2:30:04 PM4/21/21
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On 4/21/21, Richmond <rich...@criptext.com> wrote:
I just had to do this AGAIN yesterday. I download the dotDEB file then
"dpkg -i" it. It always fails due to missing dependencies. Somewhere
in the failed effort, the reminder to "apt --fix-broken install"
appears so that's what I do next.

Yesterday it worked perfectly. Everything was done in about a minute.
60 seconds.

Other times, it's a battle of going back and forth cherry picking
missing dependencies from packages.debian.org then running the "dpkg
-i" command on them, too, until every package is finally satisfied.
I'm a-suming that yesterday's success was due to Bullseye getting
ready to roll over into stable..

Maybe. Whatever the reason, yesterday was a good day for it to go that
smoothly. Thank you to all who help make that happen. :)

Cindy :)
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Greg Wooledge

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Apr 21, 2021, 2:40:03 PM4/21/21
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 02:21:56PM -0400, Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> On 4/21/21, Richmond <rich...@criptext.com> wrote:
> > sudo apt install ~/Downloads/zoom_amd64.deb
>
> I just had to do this AGAIN yesterday. I download the dotDEB file then
> "dpkg -i" it. It always fails due to missing dependencies. Somewhere
> in the failed effort, the reminder to "apt --fix-broken install"
> appears so that's what I do next.

You're doing it the old way. If that works, well, congrats.

The modern way is to use apt or apt-get to install the .deb file,
as Richmond showed. You need to make sure the pathname of the .deb file
that you pass to apt begins with / or ./ or ../ so apt knows it's a
pathname and not a package name. Since ~ is expanded to an absolute
path (beginning with / ), Richmond's command works just fine.

Tom Dial

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Apr 21, 2021, 5:30:04 PM4/21/21
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On 4/21/21 09:01, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Installed Zoom in Debian 10.
>
> Checked dependancies listed here.
> https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/204206269-Installing-or-updating-Zoom-on-Linux
>
> A right click on the video camera icon and release on "Join Meeting..." gives
> the window in this screenshot.
> http://easthope.ca/ZoomJoinMeeting2021-04-21.png

I've been using various zoom client versions for over a year, and claim
some possibly useful experience.

First, as Greg Wooledge and tomas noted, You can run it using a browser,
with some possible functional limitations.

Second, contrary to some opinions, I have no major qualms about
installing the client software, although initially I examined what
installing and operating it in a confined test environment did and,
after what I considered a reasonable amount of testing and updating,
concluded that it is a well-behaved piece of software on Debian Buster
and Bullseye. It has given me no problems.

If you elect to install the client:

0. Previous history (referenced by Curt) suggests you may have a 32 bit
only machine; Michael Stone probably is on the mark in suggesting this
will not work well, if at all. Processor and memory requirements given at

https://support.zoom.us/hc/en-us/articles/201362023-System-requirements-for-Windows-macOS-and-Linux

recommend 4GB memory and an i3/i5/i7 or equivalent AMD CPU. These are 64
bit CPUs.

The link above hints that you may have a broken install. You might want
to remove (most of) it by deleting the /opt/zoom directory. The
installation also includes

/usr/bin/zoom
/usr/share/applications/Zoom.desktop
/usr/share/doc/zoom/changelog.gz
/usr/share/mime/packages/zoom.xml
/usr/share/pixmaps/Zoom.png
/usr/share/pixmaps/application-x-zoom.png

They can, I think, be ignored, and removal probably is unnecessary.

1. Download the Debian version (presuming you are using Debian) to /tmp
or another directory of your choice. Choose the applicable Debian
version, either 7.7 or the default 8.0+.

2. Install with apt, specifying the full path to the .deb file

sudo apt /tmp/zoom_16775.0418_amd64.deb

This should cause installation of any necessary dependencies. Cindy
Causey's report suggests using dpkg is likely bring problems on occasion.

Regards,
Tom Dial

pe...@easthope.ca

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Apr 22, 2021, 12:50:04 PM4/22/21
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From: Tom Dial <tdd...@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:04:45 -0600
> First, as Greg Wooledge and tomas noted, You can run it using a browser,
> with some possible functional limitations.

Scheduled to give it a try April 30.

> recommend 4GB memory and an i3/i5/i7 or equivalent AMD CPU. These are 64
> bit CPUs.

Yep, underpowered; 32 bit, 3.5 GB.

Received this comment elsewhere.
> I found my old 32 bit netbook and installed on it, it runs though
> sluggish. Debian 8. It is a bit older version of Zoom (5.4) and the
> constrained screen is awkward, ...

So I'd still expect this machine to display more than an empty window.

> The link above hints that you may have a broken install. ...

OK, reinstallation is on my list, after trying the browser.

Thanks, ... P.

Russell

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Apr 24, 2021, 11:20:04 PM4/24/21
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For what it's worth, I've never had trouble with the native app.

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to...@tuxteam.de

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Apr 25, 2021, 3:40:04 AM4/25/21
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On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 02:53:05AM +0000, Russell wrote:
> Greg Wooledge <gr...@wooledge.org> wrote:
> > On Wed, Apr 21, 2021 at 08:01:02AM -0700, pe...@easthope.ca wrote:
> >> Installed Zoom in Debian 10.
> >> [...]
> >> Ideas welcome.
> >
> > Instead of installing the Zoom package, try just using Zoom inside
> > a web browser [...]

> For what it's worth, I've never had trouble with the native app.

Can confirm: it's juts the other way around -- the native app has
trouble with me. I don't trust it. So I never installed it, leading
to... not having had trouble with it ;-P

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deloptes

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Apr 25, 2021, 4:10:04 AM4/25/21
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to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

> Can confirm: it's juts the other way around -- the native app has
> trouble with me. I don't trust it. So I never installed it, leading
> to... not having had trouble with it ;-P

+1

from time to time we share same POV :)

to...@tuxteam.de

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Apr 25, 2021, 4:20:07 AM4/25/21
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On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:08:19AM +0200, deloptes wrote:

[...]

> from time to time we share same POV :)

...we humans are like that >;-)

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Dominique Dumont

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Apr 25, 2021, 12:50:04 PM4/25/21
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On Wednesday, 21 April 2021 20:21:56 CEST Cindy Sue Causey wrote:
> I just had to do this AGAIN yesterday. I download the dotDEB file then
> "dpkg -i" it. It always fails due to missing dependencies.

You should use gdebi. This tool checks and installs required dependencies.

HTH

Gary L. Roach

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Apr 25, 2021, 3:10:08 PM4/25/21
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Hi all,

OS debian10 amd -64 system

I've been using zoom for some time and have had to reinstall twice due
to system problems. I have used the "dpkg -i  install" method followed
by --fix-missing clean up. Everything has worked fine both times. My
only problem is with the sound. I use bluetooth head phones and have
trouble getting the sound ported to the proper device. This obviously
has nothing to do with the zoom installation.

I strongly recommend downloading the .deb file from the zoom web page.
It works fine.


Gary R.

pe...@easthope.ca

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May 3, 2021, 12:00:04 PM5/3/21
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From: Tom Dial <tdd...@comcast.net>
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 15:04:45 -0600
> The link above hints that you may have a broken install. You might want
> to remove (most of) it by deleting the /opt/zoom directory.

Removing Zoom with aptitude also "disappeared" linphone. After
removing Zoom, aptitude showed linphone was not installed. I'm
leaving both off the Debian system until progress is apparent.

> The link above hints that you may have a broken install. You might want
> to remove (most of) it by deleting the /opt/zoom directory. The
> installation also includes
>
> /usr/bin/zoom
> /usr/share/applications/Zoom.desktop
> /usr/share/doc/zoom/changelog.gz
> /usr/share/mime/packages/zoom.xml
> /usr/share/pixmaps/Zoom.png
> /usr/share/pixmaps/application-x-zoom.png
>
> They can, I think, be ignored, and removal probably is unnecessary.

After removal with aptitude, all of that is gone.

From: Greg Wooledge <gr...@wooledge.org>
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2021 11:22:46 -0400
> Instead of installing the Zoom package, try just using Zoom inside
> a web browser.

Yah, a user should be wary of any software not available from the
Debian archive.

The FIrefox extension appeared to start OK. The USB video camera was
selectable but no video image appeared in the window. Also no audio.

Zoom isn't necessary on the desktop system. It works on the iPhone
and Android tablet.

Thx, ... P.

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