how to display html files on google drive

[Pierre Frenkiel]

hi,
I can't find a working application to display the html file I've uploaded
to Google Drive.
the "Html viewer" is bugged, as it displays forever a rotating wheel...
Otherwise, is there an other way that html to display images with comments,
caption,...?

best regards,
--
Pierre Frenkiel

[didier gaumet]

On the Drive website (drive.google.com) ou may associate an application
to view your html webpage but the proposed applications don't seem to
include any actual webbrowser.

Or you may access your drive via a file manager (Nautilos (Gnome) does
it and probably any gvfs compliant file manager if gvfs-backends is
installed (I think Thunar (Xfce) should do but I have not verified)

[mick crane]

If there is not much text I suppose you cound put the text on the image
or pad out the image and put it there.
"composite -compose atop text.png image.png image_and_text.jpg"
or something.
mick

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Key ID 4BFEBB31

[Pierre Frenkiel]

it is not MY drive, it is a google drive, at address
https://drive.google.com/drive/my-drive/pf-index.html

I don't know what file manager can access that.
gvfs or thunar give: "operation not supported"

[didier gaumet]

Le 20/04/2019 à 23:44, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit :

> it is not MY drive, it is a google drive, at address
>      https://drive.google.com/drive/my-drive/pf-index.html
>
> I don't know what file manager can access that.
> gvfs or thunar give: "operation not supported"

The address above is http, so I think only a software with direct or
indirect abilities to manage this protocol will do (think: web browser)

I use Gnome, so may be with other DE ou WM there are some measures to
undertake in order for that to function properly (manually do a
gvfs-mount?), but Nautilus gives me read+write access to my Google
Drive. So I can choose whatever browser I like to open html files there.

didier@hp-notebook14:~$ gvfs-mount -l
[...]
Mount(1): didier...@gmail.com -> google-drive://didier...@gmail.com/
Type: GDaemonMount

I just installed the Pcmanfm-qt file-manager and from within the gnome
DE, there is a google-drive://didier...@gmail.com/ bookmark in
Pcmanfm-qt. By clicking on it I have R+W access to my Google Drive...

I have not used KDE for a very long time but I think that for KDE users,
Kio is the KDE equivalent of gnome Gvfs.

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2019, didier gaumet wrote:

> Le 20/04/2019 à 23:44, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit :
>
>> it is not MY drive, it is a google drive, at address
>>      https://drive.google.com/drive/my-drive/pf-index.html
>>
>> I don't know what file manager can access that.
>> gvfs or thunar give: "operation not supported"
>
> The address above is http, so I think only a software with direct or
> indirect abilities to manage this protocol will do (think: web browser)

of course, I'm using a web browswer, but with either chromium or firefox,
I have the same problem when opening my html file: the images are not
displayed.

[didier gaumet]

Le 21/04/2019 à 10:10, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit :

>    of course, I'm using a web browswer, but with either chromium or
> firefox,
>    I have the same problem when opening my html file: the images are not
>    displayed.

1) What I mean is (from what I understand...):

- Google Drive is like GMail, the latter being accessed with a MUA (ex:
thunderbird) via the IMAP protocol or via a web browser; the former
being accessed with a file manager via Google API or with a web browser
via http.
- You cannot access Google Drive with a file manager via http
- In your file-manager you can open a web page stored on your Google
Drive with whatever web browser you choose

2) Another point is: is the web page you try to display a complete web
page or just the html part?
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/how-save-web-page

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2019, didier gaumet wrote:

It seems I was not clear enough: what I want to do is to give access
to other people to the html file, in order that they can display
the images together with the comments contained in the html.
Saving anything on my PC is useless.
Anyway, this discussion is obsolete, as I saw that Google announced
some years ago that they discontinue the support to html.

[didier gaumet]

Le 21/04/2019 à 21:22, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit :

>    It seems I was not clear enough: what I want to do is to give access
>    to other people to the html file,

A webpage containing images is not a simple html file (look at the
previous link)
If you cannot sea pictures in your webpages stored on your Google Drive,
chances are that these webpages have been saved as simple html (without
pictures) or you gave these users rights to read the html file but not
images and other stuff stored in the folder created to contain them

> in order that they can display
>    the images together with the comments contained in the html.
>    Saving anything on my PC is useless.

Using a local file-manager to access your remote Google Drive is not
saving anything locally: it is accessing a remote storage area. You may
use a file-manager to access SMB, NFS, Dropbox, Nextcloud, etc... on the
network.
The same thing as when you use thunderbird to access your gmail account:
IMAP being a protocol to manage distant mails, the mails are not stored
locally (roughly, excluding synchros).

>    Anyway, this discussion is obsolete, as I saw that Google  announced
>    some years ago that they discontinue the support to html.

What I gather is that Google did not announce end of html support (It's
the heart of its ecosystem) but end of life of its Google Drive PC
tools, in order to access Google Drive via... html (Chrome as the
central tool) :-)

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Sun, 21 Apr 2019, didier gaumet wrote:

> What I gather is that Google did not announce end of html support (It's
> the heart of its ecosystem) but end of life of its Google Drive PC
> tools, in order to access Google Drive via... html (Chrome as the
> central tool) :-)
>

I saw:
"Deprecating web hosting support in Google Drive Beginning August 31,
2015, web hosting in Google Drive for users and developers will be
deprecated. Google Apps customers can continue"

In a previous post, I said:
> what I want to do is to give access

> to other people to the html file, in order that they can display

> the images together with the comments contained in the html.

more precisely, I want to give access to the images AND their associated
comments (generally 1 or 2 lines)
If not html, what do you suggest to do that?
(the html support was is also discontinued in Dropbox)

[Cindy Sue Causey]

On 4/21/19, Pierre Frenkiel <pierre....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In a previous post, I said:
>> what I want to do is to give access
>> to other people to the html file, in order that they can display
>> the images together with the comments contained in the html.
>
> more precisely, I want to give access to the images AND their
> associated
> comments (generally 1 or 2 lines)
> If not html, what do you suggest to do that?
> (the html support was is also discontinued in Dropbox)

I left it go the first time I saw that, but there you go, you keep
saying that. *grin*

There's a Github project called "Beaker Browser" that describes itself
as an experimental peer-to-peer Web browser. I first read about it via
something like Linux dotCom newsletter maybe. I've been trying to mess
with it for way too long and still have not gotten anywhere for any
number of reasons.

It's part of that whole Nodejs/NPM kind of thing. I made the most
progress I've had yet just last night by attempting to use "yarn"
("yarnpkg") instead of npm.

DISCLAIMER: If your system is "pristine" Debian/Linux, I think this is
not that, but I might be misunderstanding that whole deal.

Anyway, they're over here:

https://github.com/beakerbrowser/beaker

Maybe you can get a better feel from checking that out right there. I
get the feeling it's just a couple of VERY NICE people working on it.

All the cool kids keep throwing the term "dat" around over there.
Maybe one of these years I'll finally get a copy of Beaker installed
(on dialup) so that I can finally catch up to speed with what the
doodle a dat is.. :)

Cindy :)
--
Cindy-Sue Causey
Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA

* runs with birdseed *

[didier gaumet]

Le 21/04/2019 à 23:40, Pierre Frenkiel a écrit :
> On Sun, 21 Apr 2019, didier gaumet wrote:
>
>> What I gather is that Google did not announce end of html support (It's
>> the heart of its ecosystem) but end of life of its Google Drive PC
>> tools, in order to access Google Drive via... html (Chrome as the
>> central tool) :-)
>>
> I saw:
>    "Deprecating web hosting support in Google Drive Beginning August 31,
>     2015, web hosting in Google Drive for users and developers will be
>     deprecated. Google Apps customers can continue"

web hosting is based upon html, but it is not html.
Google Drive is accessed primarily via http (so, html)

>
>   In a previous post, I said:
>> what I want to do is to give access
>> to other people to the html file, in order that they can display
>> the images together with the comments contained in the html.
>
>    more precisely, I want to give access to the images AND their associated
>    comments (generally 1 or 2 lines)
>    If not html, what do you suggest to do that?
>    (the html support was is also discontinued in Dropbox)

potentially, html file <> web page <> web site
particularly, pics are not included in an html files, and their path can
be absolute or relative

I just saved a webpage with menus and pics (from internet) on Google Drive:
- when saved on Google Drive as simple html, the page rendered by
firefox from Google Drive is blank
- when saved on Google Drive as complete web page (so: html file plus an
entire folder), the page rendered by firefox from Google Drive is
identical to that rendered by firefox from internet

So it seems to me that publishing at least a small webpage with its pics
on Google Drive is still possible

I do not know what kind of volume (3 or 3000 pages) you need to publish,
if you are knowledgeable in html, if you create your pages (and if there
is a script language like PHP) or if you want to privately give access
to web pages you did note create and only saved (for example: pages from
a paywalled site), or... etc...

And in fact what you really want is perhaps more a shared photo album
with comments (like Google Photos)?

or, depending on your needs,
either a full-fledged website hosted by an actual web hosting service
(Google: Google Domains?), not a momentarily available commodity like
web hosting on Google Drive
or if you have a small number of web pages: you can print them as one
or several pdf that you put on Google Drive (that's what I do when I
want to save a webpage with its pictures)

Sorry, I stop there, being far from expert in this domain :-)

[Curt]

On 2019-04-21, Pierre Frenkiel <pierre....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> more precisely, I want to give access to the images AND their associated
> comments (generally 1 or 2 lines)
> If not html, what do you suggest to do that?
> (the html support was is also discontinued in Dropbox)
>

In drive open the image file (double-click); on the upper right of the
screen next to the printing icon click the cross + (add a comment).
You're asked what part of the image you wish to comment upon (area
selection). The comment appears beside the selected image area (in the
margins).

Share image.

[Pierre Frenkiel]

I'm not convinced: after doing what you suggest, I only see under the image
"commented by you today", but no visible comment...

[Curt]

On 2019-04-22, Pierre Frenkiel <pierre....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
> I'm not convinced: after doing what you suggest, I only see under the image
> "commented by you today", but no visible comment...

Oh, shit, you must've toggled the "make my comments invisible and only
reveal the fact itself that I've commented" switch somehow!

> best regards,

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Mon, 22 Apr 2019, Curt wrote:

it must be an hidden switch, and may-be I hit it blindly .)
more seriously, this procedure may be useful for a small number of images,
but for 50 or more, nothing replace the power of a text editor.