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Daniel Dalton
Nov 19, 2012, 1:10:02 AM11/19/12
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Hi,
I've installed gnome using tasksel and I'm running debian wheezy.
I've used rcconf and ticked gdm3 to start on boot.
However, it takes an incredibly long time to load gnome. From the point
where gdm3 is invoked to the desktop coming up (I have auto log in), is
over a minute. I am using a core I5 2.4 GHZ machine with 4 Gb of ram so
I'd expect it to be a bit faster. My netbook seems to load the GUI in
about half the time it takes on this machine.
Does anyone know how I can solve this problem?
It seems that the first time I invoke gdm3 whether it be automatically
on a boot or if I disable it from auto starting and then run the init
script myself is very slow, but restarting the gdm3 server after the
first time it has been started works in about 15-20 seconds.
So it is just the very first time each boot gdm3 is ran which is causing
me these problems.
I'm also using gnome 3, but I've set it to use fallback mode since I'm
blind and rather the old interface for accessibility, but I thought that
couldn't be the problem.
Thank you for any help.
Daniel
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I've installed gnome using tasksel and I'm running debian wheezy.
I've used rcconf and ticked gdm3 to start on boot.
However, it takes an incredibly long time to load gnome. From the point
where gdm3 is invoked to the desktop coming up (I have auto log in), is
over a minute. I am using a core I5 2.4 GHZ machine with 4 Gb of ram so
I'd expect it to be a bit faster. My netbook seems to load the GUI in
about half the time it takes on this machine.
Does anyone know how I can solve this problem?
It seems that the first time I invoke gdm3 whether it be automatically
on a boot or if I disable it from auto starting and then run the init
script myself is very slow, but restarting the gdm3 server after the
first time it has been started works in about 15-20 seconds.
So it is just the very first time each boot gdm3 is ran which is causing
me these problems.
I'm also using gnome 3, but I've set it to use fallback mode since I'm
blind and rather the old interface for accessibility, but I thought that
couldn't be the problem.
Thank you for any help.
Daniel
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Ralf Mardorf
Nov 19, 2012, 3:50:01 AM11/19/12
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Use another display manager ;). I still try to fix some GNOME stuff
myself, but I guess it's not worse the effort. The best thing to do IMO
is to be on the look-out for a complete GNOME replacement. Since I'm not
blind, I simply could switch to Xfce, but I e.g. still need Evolution to
access my emails and I already have one Linux install where Evolution is
unusable. I choose Linux because I want versatility. GNOME upstream
started with a dependency to a borked sound server and now the DE
already has a hard dependency to the startup process (again upstream!).
I wonder what the DE has to do with startup? Perhaps there's already an
inconsistency when using GNOME with initd instead of systemd. Dunno!
2 Cents,
Ralf
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myself, but I guess it's not worse the effort. The best thing to do IMO
is to be on the look-out for a complete GNOME replacement. Since I'm not
blind, I simply could switch to Xfce, but I e.g. still need Evolution to
access my emails and I already have one Linux install where Evolution is
unusable. I choose Linux because I want versatility. GNOME upstream
started with a dependency to a borked sound server and now the DE
already has a hard dependency to the startup process (again upstream!).
I wonder what the DE has to do with startup? Perhaps there's already an
inconsistency when using GNOME with initd instead of systemd. Dunno!
2 Cents,
Ralf
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john
Nov 19, 2012, 8:40:01 AM11/19/12
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On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:45:07 +0100
Ralf Mardorf <ralf.m...@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
=Use another display manager ;). I still try to fix some GNOME stuff
=myself, but I guess it's not worse the effort. The best thing to do IMO
=is to be on the look-out for a complete GNOME replacement. Since I'm
not =blind, I simply could switch to Xfce, but I e.g. still need
Evolution to =access my emails and I already have one Linux install
where Evolution is =unusable. I choose Linux because I want
versatility. GNOME upstream =started with a dependency to a borked
sound server and now the DE =already has a hard dependency to the
startup process (again upstream!). =I wonder what the DE has to do with
startup? Perhaps there's already an =inconsistency when using GNOME
with initd instead of systemd. Dunno! =
=2 Cents,
=Ralf
=
=
I run gnome3 with lightdm and openbox. It seems to work fine without
some of the bugginess of gdm3. I might add however, that this install
is running on a virtual machine (openbox) - I run it there in the hope
that it becomes useable (for me that is).
John
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Ralf Mardorf <ralf.m...@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
=Use another display manager ;). I still try to fix some GNOME stuff
=myself, but I guess it's not worse the effort. The best thing to do IMO
=is to be on the look-out for a complete GNOME replacement. Since I'm
not =blind, I simply could switch to Xfce, but I e.g. still need
Evolution to =access my emails and I already have one Linux install
where Evolution is =unusable. I choose Linux because I want
versatility. GNOME upstream =started with a dependency to a borked
sound server and now the DE =already has a hard dependency to the
startup process (again upstream!). =I wonder what the DE has to do with
startup? Perhaps there's already an =inconsistency when using GNOME
with initd instead of systemd. Dunno! =
=2 Cents,
=Ralf
=
=
I run gnome3 with lightdm and openbox. It seems to work fine without
some of the bugginess of gdm3. I might add however, that this install
is running on a virtual machine (openbox) - I run it there in the hope
that it becomes useable (for me that is).
John
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Ralf Mardorf
Nov 19, 2012, 9:00:01 AM11/19/12
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On Mon, 2012-11-19 at 08:16 -0500, john wrote:
> I run gnome3 with lightdm and openbox. It seems to work fine without
> some of the bugginess of gdm3. I might add however, that this install
> is running on a virtual machine (openbox) - I run it there in the hope
> that it becomes useable (for me that is).
This also should work for any other install. If a special display
> I run gnome3 with lightdm and openbox. It seems to work fine without
> some of the bugginess of gdm3. I might add however, that this install
> is running on a virtual machine (openbox) - I run it there in the hope
> that it becomes useable (for me that is).
manager should be needed, then it would become hard to install different
DEs.
Btw. I had one install using GDM3, but not GNOME and it worked without
issues. Issues with GDM3 started when there was a switch from init to
something else, regarding to package dependencies etc.. It's not wanted
to talk about it, since "truth" has become the new "fear, uncertainty
and doubt".
Regards,
Ralf
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Rob Owens
Nov 20, 2012, 7:50:02 AM11/20/12
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On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 08:16:32AM -0500, john wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:45:07 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <ralf.m...@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>
> =Use another display manager ;). I still try to fix some GNOME stuff
> =myself, but I guess it's not worse the effort. The best thing to do IMO
> =is to be on the look-out for a complete GNOME replacement. Since I'm
> not =blind, I simply could switch to Xfce, but I e.g. still need
> Evolution to =access my emails and I already have one Linux install
> where Evolution is =unusable. I choose Linux because I want
> versatility. GNOME upstream =started with a dependency to a borked
> sound server and now the DE =already has a hard dependency to the
> startup process (again upstream!). =I wonder what the DE has to do with
> startup? Perhaps there's already an =inconsistency when using GNOME
> with initd instead of systemd. Dunno! =
> =2 Cents,
> =Ralf
> =
> =
> I run gnome3 with lightdm and openbox. It seems to work fine without
> some of the bugginess of gdm3. I might add however, that this install
> is running on a virtual machine (openbox) - I run it there in the hope
> that it becomes useable (for me that is).
>
There is also slim, nodm, and gdm (at least in Squeeze, the old gdm is
> On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 09:45:07 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf <ralf.m...@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
>
> =Use another display manager ;). I still try to fix some GNOME stuff
> =myself, but I guess it's not worse the effort. The best thing to do IMO
> =is to be on the look-out for a complete GNOME replacement. Since I'm
> not =blind, I simply could switch to Xfce, but I e.g. still need
> Evolution to =access my emails and I already have one Linux install
> where Evolution is =unusable. I choose Linux because I want
> versatility. GNOME upstream =started with a dependency to a borked
> sound server and now the DE =already has a hard dependency to the
> startup process (again upstream!). =I wonder what the DE has to do with
> startup? Perhaps there's already an =inconsistency when using GNOME
> with initd instead of systemd. Dunno! =
> =2 Cents,
> =Ralf
> =
> =
> I run gnome3 with lightdm and openbox. It seems to work fine without
> some of the bugginess of gdm3. I might add however, that this install
> is running on a virtual machine (openbox) - I run it there in the hope
> that it becomes useable (for me that is).
>
still available).
nodm doesn't give you a login screen -- it just logs in a particular
user automatically. I use it for things like my MythTV frontend.
-Rob
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