Re: how to to start X Window in debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso

[Weaver]

On 15-08-2021 13:03, lou wrote:
> i've copied debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso  to USB stick and run it
>
> X app are included, but how to start X Window?

At the prompt, type `startx'.
Depending on permissions, you may need to become root.
Cheers!

Harry.

--
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the greatest enemy of truth'.
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[lou]

[lou]

On 8/14/21 11:08 PM, Weaver wrote:
>
> At the prompt, type `startx'.
> Depending on permissions, you may need to become root.
> Cheers!
>
> Harry.
>

startx don't seem to be included in ISO image

and what is password for root?

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sat, Aug 14, 2021 at 11:03:37PM -0400, lou wrote:
> i've copied debian-live-11.0.0-i386-standard.iso  to USB stick and run it
>
> X app are included, but how to start X Window?

The "-standard" in the image name means that this is a "Standard" Debian
installation, with no Desktop Environment. It probably doesn't have an X
server either, or X fonts, or any of the other things you would need in
order to actually run an X session locally.

A quick web search found a list of the packages on this image:

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.packages

As I expected, there is no X server, even though there are a few X
client programs. There's no way you'll be able to start an X session
from this image. It's meant for console/server use only.

[Jeremy Ardley]

On 15/8/21 11:22 am, lou wrote:
>
> and what is password for root?
>

You should be able to do

sudo passwd root

and set your own password


--
Jeremy

[lou]

On 8/14/21 11:32 PM, Greg Wooledge wrote:
>
> The "-standard" in the image name means that this is a "Standard" Debian
> installation, with no Desktop Environment. It probably doesn't have an X
> server either, or X fonts, or any of the other things you would need in
> order to actually run an X session locally.
>
> A quick web search found a list of the packages on this image:
>
> https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-11.0.0-amd64-standard.packages
>
> As I expected, there is no X server, even though there are a few X
> client programs. There's no way you'll be able to start an X session
> from this image. It's meant for console/server use only.
>
>

Thank Greg Wooledge!

then these X apps are to be run remotely

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

Debian-standard live image? Doesn't include X / X apps - it's just the
core of Debian - standard packages, command line only.

Default user name is user - default is to use sudo (I think) so sudo su -
will get you a root prompt.

Use one of the other images that have gnome/cinnamon or similar in their names

Hope this helps,

Andy Cater

[sp...@caiway.net]

On Sun, 15 Aug 2021 11:30:07 +0800
Jeremy Ardley <jer...@ardley.org> wrote:

then these X apps are to be run remotely

Thanks for the tips lou & Jeremy

lou what about
# apt install xorg fluxbox

$ startx

[Greg Wooledge]

On Sun, Aug 15, 2021 at 04:13:37PM +0200, sp...@caiway.net wrote:
> lou what about
> # apt install xorg fluxbox
>
> $ startx

In theory that might work (you may also need firmware), but the amount
of bandwidth you'd burn through downloading *all* those packages each
and every time you boot the live image would be an appalling waste.

[sp...@caiway.net]

with a local repository ...

but you are right, perhaps it seems not a smart thing to do

[Stefan Monnier]

I expect the vast majority of Debian Live images nowadays are written to
USB flash storage rather than to read-only media, so I think it would
make a lot of sense for those live images to offer the ability to change
the image with things like `apt install`.

Personally, I've used (minimal) "normal Debian installs" instead of
Debian Live for that reason.


Stefan