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Richmond
May 5, 2021, 8:10:05 AM5/5/21
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I installed debian on an old PC i686. I chose the mate desktop. When I
tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:
I closed X down with telinit 3
I logged in on the console as root
I ran xinit -- :0
I switched to a non root user in the xterm window on the display
I typed export DISPLAY=:0
I ran mate-session
X crashed with a segmentation fault
The backtrace is on the console so I cannot cut and paste it. It says it
is in Xorg at _start+0x31
What can I do? Perhaps use a different xserver. The display driver is
nouveau.
tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:
I closed X down with telinit 3
I logged in on the console as root
I ran xinit -- :0
I switched to a non root user in the xterm window on the display
I typed export DISPLAY=:0
I ran mate-session
X crashed with a segmentation fault
The backtrace is on the console so I cannot cut and paste it. It says it
is in Xorg at _start+0x31
What can I do? Perhaps use a different xserver. The display driver is
nouveau.
Dan Ritter
May 5, 2021, 8:30:04 AM5/5/21
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it to work -- you did not authorize your non-root user to run in
that X session.
Try this:
As your non-root user, write a .xinitrc:
#!/bin/sh
xterm &
exec mate-session
and then run
startx
Tell us what happens then. If it crashes, let us see your
/etc/apt/sources.list and anything in sources.list.d/
-dsr-
Greg Wooledge
May 5, 2021, 8:30:04 AM5/5/21
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On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 08:20:21AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
> As your non-root user, write a .xinitrc:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> xterm &
> exec mate-session
>
> and then run
>
> startx
>
> Tell us what happens then. If it crashes, let us see your
> /etc/apt/sources.list and anything in sources.list.d/
In addition to this:
> As your non-root user, write a .xinitrc:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> xterm &
> exec mate-session
>
> and then run
>
> startx
>
> Tell us what happens then. If it crashes, let us see your
> /etc/apt/sources.list and anything in sources.list.d/
1) Identify your video hardware. Use "lspci -nn" for this.
2) Check for any missing firmware. Use "dmesg | grep -i firmware" for
this.
If there are any missing firmware files that the kernel wants to use,
figure out which (non-free) package they're in, install that, and
reboot.
The OP mentioned "nouveau", which means an nvidia device is in play. This
means it may also be necessary to install some proprietary nvidia drivers.
We won't know for sure until we know which device it is.
Richmond
May 5, 2021, 9:00:04 AM5/5/21
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Richmond <rich...@criptext.com> writes:
> I installed debian on an old PC i686. I chose the mate desktop. When I
> tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:
>
> I closed X down with telinit 3
> I logged in on the console as root
> I ran xinit -- :0
> I switched to a non root user in the xterm window on the display
> I typed export DISPLAY=:0
> I ran mate-session
> X crashed with a segmentation fault
>
> The backtrace is on the console so I cannot cut and paste it. It says it
> is in Xorg at _start+0x31
I think that was start_
> I installed debian on an old PC i686. I chose the mate desktop. When I
> tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:
>
> I closed X down with telinit 3
> I logged in on the console as root
> I ran xinit -- :0
> I switched to a non root user in the xterm window on the display
> I typed export DISPLAY=:0
> I ran mate-session
> X crashed with a segmentation fault
>
> The backtrace is on the console so I cannot cut and paste it. It says it
> is in Xorg at _start+0x31
>
> What can I do? Perhaps use a different xserver. The display driver is
> nouveau.
Richmond
May 5, 2021, 10:20:05 AM5/5/21
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mate-panel, marco, mate-session, and xterm. The xorg log shows a
segmentation fault but I cannot be sure when it happened as the date is
in an inhuman format.
I'll bet it is to do with desktop effects.
Here is the sources.list. There is nothing in sources.d. I don't
understand this file because I installed from the DVD-1, and I am using an
i686. After the installation I commented out the second cdrom line
because it was prompting me when I tried to install software. The first
line was already commented out. During the installation I enabled online
repos so that it would be up to date.
====================
#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.8.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 NETINST 20210206-10:34]/ buster main
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.8.0 _Buster_ - Official amd64 NETINST 20210206-10:34]/ buster main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main contrib non-free
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster main
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main
# buster-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports main
# This system was installed using small removable media
# (e.g. netinst, live or single CD). The matching "deb cdrom"
# entries were disabled at the end of the installation process.
# For information about how to configure apt package sources,
# see the sources.list(5) manual.
Richmond
May 5, 2021, 10:30:05 AM5/5/21
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Scrap the previous /etc/apt/sources I forgot I was using ssh into a
different pc.
cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.9.0 _Buster_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20210327-10:50]/ buster contrib main
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.9.0 _Buster_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20210327-10:50]/ buster contrib main
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib
# buster-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib
different pc.
cat /etc/apt/sources.list
#
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.9.0 _Buster_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20210327-10:50]/ buster contrib main
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 10.9.0 _Buster_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20210327-10:50]/ buster contrib main
deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/debian-security buster/updates main contrib
# buster-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
deb-src http://deb.debian.org/debian/ buster-updates main contrib
Dan Ritter
May 5, 2021, 10:50:04 AM5/5/21
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Richmond wrote:
> Dan Ritter <d...@randomstring.org> writes:
>
> > Richmond wrote:
> >> I installed debian on an old PC i686. I chose the mate desktop. When I
> >> tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:
...
> Dan Ritter <d...@randomstring.org> writes:
>
> > Richmond wrote:
> >> I installed debian on an old PC i686. I chose the mate desktop. When I
> >> tried to log in throught display manager I could not, so:
> >> What can I do? Perhaps use a different xserver. The display driver is
> >> nouveau.
> >
> > I wouldn't expect that to segfault, but I also wouldn't expect
> > it to work -- you did not authorize your non-root user to run in
> > that X session.
>
> >> nouveau.
> >
> > I wouldn't expect that to segfault, but I also wouldn't expect
> > it to work -- you did not authorize your non-root user to run in
> > that X session.
>
> It crashed. The errors on the console are several fatal errors from
> mate-panel, marco, mate-session, and xterm. The xorg log shows a
> segmentation fault but I cannot be sure when it happened as the date is
> in an inhuman format.
>
> I'll bet it is to do with desktop effects.
>
> Here is the sources.list. There is nothing in sources.d. I don't
Good, we're making progress. Time to chase down Greg's idea,
> mate-panel, marco, mate-session, and xterm. The xorg log shows a
> segmentation fault but I cannot be sure when it happened as the date is
> in an inhuman format.
>
> I'll bet it is to do with desktop effects.
>
> Here is the sources.list. There is nothing in sources.d. I don't
which is that you have driver problems.
Answer his questions about lspci and such, and check for the
installation of
firmware-misc-nonfree
You probably need that for your graphics card, and it probably
needs a full reboot after.
-dsr-
Richmond
May 5, 2021, 11:00:04 AM5/5/21
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Greg Wooledge <gr...@wooledge.org> writes:
> On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 08:20:21AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
>> As your non-root user, write a .xinitrc:
>>
>> #!/bin/sh
>> xterm &
>> exec mate-session
>>
>> and then run
>>
>> startx
>>
>> Tell us what happens then. If it crashes, let us see your
>> /etc/apt/sources.list and anything in sources.list.d/
>
> In addition to this:
>
> 1) Identify your video hardware. Use "lspci -nn" for this.
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV11
> On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 08:20:21AM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote:
>> As your non-root user, write a .xinitrc:
>>
>> #!/bin/sh
>> xterm &
>> exec mate-session
>>
>> and then run
>>
>> startx
>>
>> Tell us what happens then. If it crashes, let us see your
>> /etc/apt/sources.list and anything in sources.list.d/
>
> In addition to this:
>
> 1) Identify your video hardware. Use "lspci -nn" for this.
[GeForce2 MX/MX 400] [10de:0110] (rev b2)
>
> 2) Check for any missing firmware. Use "dmesg | grep -i firmware" for
> this.
>
Greg Wooledge
May 5, 2021, 11:20:05 AM5/5/21
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On Wed, May 05, 2021 at 03:31:25PM +0100, Richmond wrote:
> > 1) Identify your video hardware. Use "lspci -nn" for this.
>
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV11
> [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] [10de:0110] (rev b2)
OK. This is... a rather old device.
> > 1) Identify your video hardware. Use "lspci -nn" for this.
>
> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV11
> [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] [10de:0110] (rev b2)
<https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_10_.22Buster.22>
has instructions for three different proprietary nvidia drivers.
The problem is I don't know which one you need. You may just need
to try all three, one at a time, and see what happens.
Or else look for this nvidia detection script that I've heard about
in the past, which is supposed to tell you.
There are links to lists of supported devices, and yours is listed under
the section that says it's supported by something called the "96.43.xx"
driver, but I do not know how that designation maps to any of the three
different Debian package names for nvidia drivers.
Richmond
May 5, 2021, 11:30:04 AM5/5/21
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then changing the window manager to marco nocompositor. So mate works,
but there was nothing on the panel so I had to add a menu.
Brad Rogers
May 5, 2021, 11:30:05 AM5/5/21
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On Wed, 05 May 2021 15:31:25 +0100
Richmond <rich...@criptext.com> wrote:
Hello Richmond,
>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV11
>[GeForce2 MX/MX 400] [10de:0110] (rev b2)
As mentioned by Greg;
On Wed, 5 May 2021 11:14:44 -0400
Greg Wooledge <gr...@wooledge.org> wrote:
>Or else look for this nvidia detection script that I've heard about
>in the past, which is supposed to tell you.
The package you'll need is nvidia-detect. It runs from the command
line (simply; nvidia-detect) and gives an output which includes a
recommendation as to which suite of packages to use (i.e. current, or
one of the legacy packages).
As an example;
brad@earth:~$ nvidia-detect
Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
07:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation TU116
[GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER] [10de:2187] (rev a1)
Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation TU116 [GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER] (rev
a1) Your card is supported by the default drivers.
Your card is also supported by the Tesla 460 drivers series.
Your card is also supported by the Tesla 450 drivers series.
It is recommended to install the
nvidia-driver
package.
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Richmond <rich...@criptext.com> wrote:
Hello Richmond,
>01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation NV11
>[GeForce2 MX/MX 400] [10de:0110] (rev b2)
On Wed, 5 May 2021 11:14:44 -0400
Greg Wooledge <gr...@wooledge.org> wrote:
>Or else look for this nvidia detection script that I've heard about
>in the past, which is supposed to tell you.
line (simply; nvidia-detect) and gives an output which includes a
recommendation as to which suite of packages to use (i.e. current, or
one of the legacy packages).
As an example;
brad@earth:~$ nvidia-detect
Detected NVIDIA GPUs:
07:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation TU116
[GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER] [10de:2187] (rev a1)
Checking card: NVIDIA Corporation TU116 [GeForce GTX 1650 SUPER] (rev
a1) Your card is supported by the default drivers.
Your card is also supported by the Tesla 460 drivers series.
Your card is also supported by the Tesla 450 drivers series.
It is recommended to install the
nvidia-driver
package.
--
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/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
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Richmond
May 5, 2021, 2:00:04 PM5/5/21
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package called nvidia-detect for this architecture. There is such a
package on a laptop I have but that is 64 bit.
I think the driver is this one:
https://www.nvidia.co.uk/Download/driverResults.aspx/1252/en-uk
But I don't want to risk installing it from there.
Certainly I have used an nvidia driver on the PC many years ago with
opensuse but they don't support 32 bit anymore except with tumbleweed
and that doesn't include nvidia driver installation.
Brad Rogers
May 5, 2021, 2:20:04 PM5/5/21
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On Wed, 05 May 2021 18:36:50 +0100
Again, sorry about getting your hopes up.
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/ _)rad never immediately apparent"
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>package called nvidia-detect for this architecture.
Oops, I'm sorry - you're right - I didn't check properly.
Again, sorry about getting your hopes up.
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Felix Miata
May 5, 2021, 11:40:05 PM5/5/21
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Richmond composed on 2021-05-05 12:49 (UTC+0100):
I use nouveau kernel driver, modesetting X driver:
# inxi -CGISxxy
System:
Host: gx27c Kernel: 4.19.0-16-686 i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
Desktop: Trinity R14.0.10 tk: Qt 3.5.0 wm: Twin dm: TDM
Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
CPU:
Info: Single Core model: Intel Pentium 4 bits: 32 type: MCP
arch: Netburst Northwood rev: 9 cache: L1: 8 KiB L2: 512 KiB
flags: pae sse sse2 bogomips: 4788
Speed: 2394 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 2394
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] vendor: Palit Microsystems
driver: nouveau v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0110
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: modesetting
resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz s-dpi: 96
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6
compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes
Info:
Processes:...Shell: Bash v: 5.0.3 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.04
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# inxi -CGISxxy
System:
Host: gx27c Kernel: 4.19.0-16-686 i686 bits: 32 compiler: gcc v: 8.3.0
Desktop: Trinity R14.0.10 tk: Qt 3.5.0 wm: Twin dm: TDM
Distro: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)
CPU:
Info: Single Core model: Intel Pentium 4 bits: 32 type: MCP
arch: Netburst Northwood rev: 9 cache: L1: 8 KiB L2: 512 KiB
flags: pae sse sse2 bogomips: 4788
Speed: 2394 MHz min/max: N/A Core speed (MHz): 1: 2394
Graphics:
Device-1: NVIDIA NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] vendor: Palit Microsystems
driver: nouveau v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0110
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.4 driver: loaded: modesetting
resolution: 1680x1050~60Hz s-dpi: 96
OpenGL: renderer: llvmpipe (LLVM 7.0 128 bits) v: 3.3 Mesa 18.3.6
compat-v: 3.1 direct render: Yes
Info:
Processes:...Shell: Bash v: 5.0.3 running-in: konsole inxi: 3.3.04
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