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Ed

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Oct 19, 2007, 2:10:08 PM10/19/07
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Hi,
I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso. The install
went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
choose 'yes'. It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although I
also tried 'ftp' and it fails also. Next it asks for a country and I
choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror. I have tried
nearly all, but currently I am trying 'linux.csua.berkeley.edu'. It asks
if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'. Then it says
scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem. After a few
seconds it reports that "Bad archive Mirror - The specified Debian
archive mirror
is either not available, or does not have a valid release file on it.
Please try a dirrerent
mirror". This happens no matter which mirror I choose. I am new to
Debian
and unfamiliar with its tools. Any help or advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
Ed Doyle


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Miguel J.

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Oct 19, 2007, 2:30:12 PM10/19/07
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El vie, 19-10-2007 a las 17:23 +0000, Ed escribió:
> Hi,
> I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso. The install
> went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
> When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
> choose 'yes'. It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although I
> also tried 'ftp' and it fails also. Next it asks for a country and I
> choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror. I have tried
> nearly all, but currently I am trying 'linux.csua.berkeley.edu'. It asks
> if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'. Then it says
> scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem. After a few
> seconds it reports that "Bad archive Mirror - The specified Debian
> archive mirror
> is either not available, or does not have a valid release file on it.
> Please try a dirrerent
> mirror". This happens no matter which mirror I choose. I am new to
> Debian
> and unfamiliar with its tools. Any help or advice would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Ed Doyle


That happened to me once using an etch install CD... The same problem
you described; I think is a bug with the installer because the problem
went away when I tried to install a testing distribution.


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Andrew Sackville-West

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Oct 19, 2007, 3:00:18 PM10/19/07
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 05:23:35PM -0000, Ed wrote:
> Hi,
> I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso. The install
> went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
> When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
> choose 'yes'. It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although I
> also tried 'ftp' and it fails also. Next it asks for a country and I
> choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror. I have tried
> nearly all, but currently I am trying 'linux.csua.berkeley.edu'. It asks
> if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'. Then it says
> scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem. After a few
> seconds it reports that "Bad archive Mirror - The specified Debian

have you confirmed that the network is up? switch to a VT (alt-f2) and
try pinging various addresses.

btw, what "modem" are you talking about here?

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Sam Leon

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Oct 19, 2007, 5:20:07 PM10/19/07
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Ed wrote:
> Hi,
> I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso. The install
> went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
> When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
> choose 'yes'. It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although I
> also tried 'ftp' and it fails also. Next it asks for a country and I
> choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror. I have tried
> nearly all, but currently I am trying 'linux.csua.berkeley.edu'. It asks
> if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'. Then it says
> scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem. After a few
> seconds it reports that "Bad archive Mirror - The specified Debian
> archive mirror
> is either not available, or does not have a valid release file on it.
> Please try a dirrerent
> mirror". This happens no matter which mirror I choose. I am new to
> Debian
> and unfamiliar with its tools. Any help or advice would be appreciated.
> Thanks
> Ed Doyle
>


What kind of network card is in the computer? It sounds like the driver
for it is not getting loaded or something.

Sam

Ed

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Oct 19, 2007, 5:30:16 PM10/19/07
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:00:18 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:

> On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 05:23:35PM -0000, Ed wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso. The install
>> went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
>> When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
>> choose 'yes'. It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although
>> I also tried 'ftp' and it fails also. Next it asks for a country and I
>> choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror. I have

>> tried nearly all, but currently I am trying ' '.

>> It asks if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'.
>> Then it says scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem.
>> After a few seconds it reports that "Bad archive Mirror - The specified
>> Debian
>
> have you confirmed that the network is up? switch to a VT (alt-f2) and
> try pinging various addresses.
>
> btw, what "modem" are you talking about here?
>
> A

You are on the right track. I can NOT ping linux.csua.berkeley.edu or
it's ip address which is 169.229.49.36. I can ping other computers on my
home network. The modem I was referring to is my dsl modem. The install
CD has not reported any errors up to the point I mention above. Is there
a different install image I should download and use. I was not too keen
on downloading the 20+ cd images for a complete CD install. Do you know
which ones I would need just for gnome and firefox for starters?
Thanks
Ed

Tim DeWall

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Oct 19, 2007, 5:50:07 PM10/19/07
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Andrew Sackville-West

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Oct 19, 2007, 6:00:16 PM10/19/07
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 07:47:21PM -0000, Ed wrote:
> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:00:18 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
>
> > On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 05:23:35PM -0000, Ed wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >> I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso. The install
> >> went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
> >> When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
> >> choose 'yes'. It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although
> >> I also tried 'ftp' and it fails also. Next it asks for a country and I
> >> choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror. I have
> >> tried nearly all, but currently I am trying ' '.
> >
> > have you confirmed that the network is up? switch to a VT (alt-f2) and
> > try pinging various addresses.
> >
>
> You are on the right track. I can NOT ping linux.csua.berkeley.edu or
> it's ip address which is 169.229.49.36. I can ping other computers on my
> home network. The modem I was referring to is my dsl modem. The install
> CD has not reported any errors up to the point I mention above. Is there
> a different install image I should download and use. I was not too keen
> on downloading the 20+ cd images for a complete CD install. Do you know
> which ones I would need just for gnome and firefox for starters?

okay, you can ping your local net, but not outside it. how about
posting the output of

route

on the machine in question while installing

I'm guessing there's no default route which you could get with

route add default gw <ip.address.of.your.gateway>

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Vincent Frentzel

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Oct 19, 2007, 6:20:10 PM10/19/07
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On Friday 19 October 2007 22:51:05 Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 07:47:21PM -0000, Ed wrote:
> > On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:00:18 +0200, Andrew Sackville-West wrote:
> > > On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 05:23:35PM -0000, Ed wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >> I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso. The
> > >> install went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package
> > >> Manager'. When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network
> > >> mirror and I choose 'yes'. It then asks for a protocol and I choose
> > >> 'http' although I also tried 'ftp' and it fails also. Next it asks
> > >> for a country and I choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive
> > >> mirror. I have tried nearly all, but currently I am trying ' '.

Have you tried simply leaving the apt system unconfigured, booting the
installed system and then setting it up. I might be wrong, but maybe it s a
problem with the installer.

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Douglas A. Tutty

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Oct 19, 2007, 9:10:11 PM10/19/07
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 05:23:35PM -0000, Ed wrote:
> I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso. The install
> went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
> When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
> choose 'yes'. It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although I
> also tried 'ftp' and it fails also. Next it asks for a country and I
> choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror. I have tried
> nearly all, but currently I am trying 'linux.csua.berkeley.edu'. It asks
> if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'. Then it says
> scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem. After a few
> seconds it reports that "Bad archive Mirror - The specified Debian
> archive mirror
> is either not available, or does not have a valid release file on it.
> Please try a dirrerent
> mirror". This happens no matter which mirror I choose. I am new to
> Debian
> and unfamiliar with its tools. Any help or advice would be appreciated.

Perhaps don't use a mirror, just install base and get a minimal debian
system. Then you can use the full power of debian to help solve the
problem without an installer UI getting in the way.

Doug.

Ed

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Oct 19, 2007, 10:50:06 PM10/19/07
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On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 23:20:07 +0200, Sam Leon wrote:

> Ed wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso. The install
>> went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
>> When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
>> choose 'yes'. It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although
>> I also tried 'ftp' and it fails also. Next it asks for a country and I
>> choose 'United States'. Next it asks for a archive mirror. I have
>> tried nearly all, but currently I am trying 'linux.csua.berkeley.edu'.
>> It asks if I need a proxy and I leave that blank and hit 'continue'.
>> Then it says scanning the mirror, but I see no activity on my modem.
>> After a few seconds it reports that "Bad archive Mirror - The specified
>> Debian archive mirror
>> is either not available, or does not have a valid release file on it.
>> Please try a dirrerent
>> mirror". This happens no matter which mirror I choose. I am new to
>> Debian
>> and unfamiliar with its tools. Any help or advice would be
>> appreciated. Thanks
>> Ed Doyle
>>
>>
>
> What kind of network card is in the computer? It sounds like the driver
> for it is not getting loaded or something.
>
> Sam

I am not really sure. This is an old computer, but years ago, it had
Redhat Linux 7 and Windows 95 dual boot running fine. As time went by,
this computer was replaces with newer ones and slowly became obsolete.
Now I want to revive it and probably make it a print server, and maybe
web browser only machine, only running linux. I have never used debian
before, but heard it was a good candidate for an old machine. On my
other machines I run fedora 6 or 7. (and yes, I run Windows 2000 or XP)

Is there a way I can find out the network card and driver without taking
the machine apart. It is in kind of a hard place to get at right now.

Thanks

Ed

Ed

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Oct 19, 2007, 11:10:11 PM10/19/07
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Here is the output of route on the machine in question. 192.168.1.1 is
correct for other computers on my home lan.

Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
Iface
192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0
eth0
default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0
eth0

Andrei Popescu

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Oct 20, 2007, 2:10:05 AM10/20/07
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On Sat, Oct 20, 2007 at 12:00:12AM -0000, Ed wrote:

> Here is the output of route on the machine in question. 192.168.1.1 is
> correct for other computers on my home lan.
>
> Kernel IP routing table
> Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use
> Iface
> 192.168.1.0 * 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0
> eth0
> default 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0
> eth0

That looks ok for my unspecialist eyes. How did you configure your
netcard (static or dhcp), can you ping the modem?

It seems like a networking problem to me.

Regards,
Andrei
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If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough.
(Albert Einstein)

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William Pursell

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Oct 20, 2007, 5:10:18 AM10/20/07
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Ed wrote:

> Is there
> a different install image I should download and use. I was not too keen
> on downloading the 20+ cd images for a complete CD install. Do you know
> which ones I would need just for gnome and firefox for starters?

I didn't notice anyone address this yet--
You can get a full system up and going with just the first CD.

Jude DaShiell

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Oct 20, 2007, 8:20:13 AM10/20/07
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The internet service provider could have an outage in the area or the
modem/router may need updating. With a web browser what happens when you
surf to http://192.168.1.1/? If you get the modem, it could need
reconfiguring or updating.

Douglas A. Tutty

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Oct 20, 2007, 11:50:09 AM10/20/07
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On Fri, Oct 19, 2007 at 10:54:51PM -0000, Ed wrote:

> I am not really sure. This is an old computer, but years ago, it had
> Redhat Linux 7 and Windows 95 dual boot running fine. As time went by,
> this computer was replaces with newer ones and slowly became obsolete.
> Now I want to revive it and probably make it a print server, and maybe
> web browser only machine, only running linux. I have never used debian
> before, but heard it was a good candidate for an old machine. On my
> other machines I run fedora 6 or 7. (and yes, I run Windows 2000 or XP)
>
> Is there a way I can find out the network card and driver without taking
> the machine apart. It is in kind of a hard place to get at right now.

Just do a minimal install from the netinst.iso. When you get to
choosing a mirror, choose none. Let it try to contact
security.debian.org, which will fail, but it will put a commented-out
line in your sources.list file.

When you get to task selector, deselect everything. You will then just
get a base install minimal system.

When you boot into the system and log in for the first time, you can
type:
# dmesg | less

and look for what hardware was found. The dmesg is a ring-buffer that
is filled by the kernel as hardware is found by the drivers. You should
see everything.

However, if this computer doesn't have a PCI bus but instead and
ISA/EISA bus, then there may be some more work to do since the hardware
set-up is different and not so automatic.

What kind of computer is this:

Processor:
Memory:
Hard drive space:
System bus type:

As long as you are able to install a base system, dmesg will tell you
most of this.

Doug.

Charles Swarts

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Oct 21, 2007, 2:10:20 PM10/21/07
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On 10/20/07, Andrei Popescu <andreim...@gmail.com> wrote:

It seems like a networking problem to me.

Regards,
Andrei


This looks like a network problem to me as well, perhaps DNS?  Try pinging an external address by ip and see if you get a response?


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www.deadeyedata.com

c...@truffula.sj.ca.us

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Oct 22, 2007, 2:00:12 AM10/22/07
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[This message has also been posted to linux.debian.user.]

In article <9g4so...@gated-at.bofh.it>, Ed wrote:
> Hi,
> I downloaded an image called debian-40r1-i386-netinst.iso. The install
> went fine until I got to the step to 'Configure the Package Manager'.
> When I do this step, it asks if I want to use a network mirror and I
> choose 'yes'. It then asks for a protocol and I choose 'http' although I
> also tried 'ftp' and it fails also.

Stop right there. Get a Debian-based live CD. If the Debian
installer has any chance of working, the live CD will work
all by itself automatically. There is no point in trying to
do the Debian install if the live CD does not work.
Try this one. http://damnsmalllinux.org/download.html
It's got most of Knoppix' hardware discovery but the image
is much smaller to download.

When the live CD comes up, get a shell and ping kernel.org.
If that works, cat /etc/resolv.conf and write down the
nameservers it found. Run ifconfig and write down the IP
address that was assigned to your eth0 or wlan0.
Run route -n and write down your gateway address and netmask.

While you're at it, if The X Window System is working well
with your video card and mouse, copy /etc/X11/xorg.conf
someplace. One way to do that is to log into a web-based
email and mail that file to yourself. Finally, run lsmod
and mail yourself the list of modules the live CD
thinks it needed. If you are really lucky, the live CD
figured out your sound card and sound works. Try it.
Sound probably won't work out of the box with the Debian Etch
installer, and the live CD has figured out what you
will need to fix. The answer is in the lsmod output.

Each piece of information you have just gathered is something
I have seen the live CDs do right and the Debian installer
screw up. Letting the live CD do the work will save you a
*lot* of screwing around.

When you boot the Etch 4.0r1 installer, before it starts
looking for a network mirror, get a shell (F2, enter)
and cat /etc/resolv.conf, and run route -n. If the
answers are not the same as what you got with the live CD,
that's your problem. Do the base system install off your
netinst or CD 1 of 21 without the network. It will
reboot and you can log in. You'll have to edit
/etc/modules, /etc/resolv.conf, /etc/apt/sources.list,
and /etc/network/interfaces. Then you can use apt-get
or aptitude and install the stuff you want.


Cameron

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