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Bret Busby

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Jan 29, 2015, 4:40:04 AM1/29/15
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No acknowledgement of the message below, from the LTS list, so I am
forwarding the message to this list.

I assume that the LTS list is solely for the developers, and, not for
reporting problems that apparently arise from LTS updates.

Anyway, the problem is new, and, started after one of the LTS updates.

Maybe someone on this list, has an idea of how to fix the problem.

Thank you in anticipation.

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---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Bret Busby <bret....@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2015 16:18:32 +0800
Subject: New problem with GIMP plugin file-jpeg
To: debia...@lists.debian.org

Hello.

I have, in the last hour, tried to open a JPEG file, to crop it, using the GIMP.

I was unable to open that file.

I now can not open JPEG files with the GIMP.

The error message returned, includes

"
GIMP Message

Plug-in crashed: "file-jpeg"
(/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/file-jpeg)

The dying plug-in may have messed up GIMP's internal state. You may
want to save your images and restart GIMP to be on the safe side.

GIMP Message

Opening '<file name including path>' failed: Procedure
'file-jpeg-load' returned no return values

"

I replaced the file name and path with
"<file name including path>"
as it does not matter what is the filename; files with the extension
.jpg, are no longer able to be opened with the GIMP.

I believe that recently, an update to the utility "file" was done; I
do not know whether this is a side effect.

I have exited and restarted the GIMP, a number of times, and, tried
with different .jpg files.

I also performed a system update, using apt-get, and, again tried
unsuccessfully to open JPEG files with the GIMP. I am aware of an
update to libjasper, that was installed.

The GIMP will simply no longer open that file type, on my system.

I also get the same error mesage, with .jpeg files

I have just searched for, downloaded, and, successfully opened, a .png
file, opening that file with the GIMP, so I assume that the problem
appears to apply to only JPEG files, using the GIMP.

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Curt

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On 2015-01-29, Bret Busby <bret....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I was unable to open that file.
>
> I now can not open JPEG files with the GIMP.
>
> The error message returned, includes
>
> "
> GIMP Message
>
> Plug-in crashed: "file-jpeg"
> (/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/file-jpeg)
>
> The dying plug-in may have messed up GIMP's internal state. You may
> want to save your images and restart GIMP to be on the safe side.
>
> GIMP Message
>
> Opening '<file name including path>' failed: Procedure

Works for me using Squeeze lts, both from the console and once the
application is running. (Opening jpegs with the gimp, that is).

There is this bug report:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734519

Perhaps if you tried moving ~/.gimp-2.6 out of the way, or reinstalling
the gimp?








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Bret Busby

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Jan 29, 2015, 5:50:07 AM1/29/15
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On 29/01/2015, Curt <cu...@free.fr> wrote:

Thank you, Curt, for your quick response.

> On 2015-01-29, Bret Busby <bret....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I was unable to open that file.
>>
>> I now can not open JPEG files with the GIMP.
>>
>> The error message returned, includes
>>
>> "
>> GIMP Message
>>
>> Plug-in crashed: "file-jpeg"
>> (/usr/lib/gimp/2.0/plug-ins/file-jpeg)
>>
>> The dying plug-in may have messed up GIMP's internal state. You may
>> want to save your images and restart GIMP to be on the safe side.
>>
>> GIMP Message
>>
>> Opening '<file name including path>' failed: Procedure
>
> Works for me using Squeeze lts, both from the console and once the
> application is running. (Opening jpegs with the gimp, that is).
>

The way that I had tried to open the JPEG files (I should probably
have included this information), was finding the files, using the File
Manager, clicking on the files with the non-dominant mouse button, and
then selecting the menu option <Open with -> GIMP>.

This method has consistently worked, prior to the occurrence of this
problem, and is useful, in directories full of image files, whose
names (of the files) I do not remember.
That just gives me a web page that displays
"Redirecting you to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734519"
that goes nowhere.

>
> Perhaps if you tried moving ~/.gimp-2.6 out of the way, or reinstalling
> the gimp?
>

Haven't tried either of those options, yet.

I was thinking that, due to the circumstances involved, perhaps a
fault lies (?) with the update that was done to the file package.


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Curt

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On 2015-01-29, Bret Busby <bret....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is this bug report:
>>
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734519
>
> That just gives me a web page that displays
> "Redirecting you to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734519"
> that goes nowhere.
>

Looks like yet another personal problem (I mean that is a functioning
url, as far as I am concerned).

>> Perhaps if you tried moving ~/.gimp-2.6 out of the way, or reinstalling
>> the gimp?
>>
>
> Haven't tried either of those options, yet.
>
> I was thinking that, due to the circumstances involved, perhaps a
> fault lies (?) with the update that was done to the file package.
>

I'm unaware of any recent updates to the gimp, but I might have missed
something going by. Of course, if there had been one, and it was faulty, I too
would have been affected, n'est-ce pas?

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Gene Heskett

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Jan 29, 2015, 9:00:05 AM1/29/15
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On Thursday 29 January 2015 08:49:14 Curt did opine
And Gene did reply:
> On 2015-01-29, Bret Busby <bret....@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> There is this bug report:
> >>
> >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734519
> >
> > That just gives me a web page that displays
> > "Redirecting you to
> > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734519" that goes
> > nowhere.
>
> Looks like yet another personal problem (I mean that is a functioning
> url, as far as I am concerned).
>
> >> Perhaps if you tried moving ~/.gimp-2.6 out of the way, or
> >> reinstalling the gimp?
> >
> > Haven't tried either of those options, yet.
> >
> > I was thinking that, due to the circumstances involved, perhaps a
> > fault lies (?) with the update that was done to the file package.
>
> I'm unaware of any recent updates to the gimp, but I might have missed
> something going by. Of course, if there had been one, and it was
> faulty, I too would have been affected, n'est-ce pas?

FWIW, I am still on Lucid LTS, and I just called in 6 pix, .JPG
extensions, about 4 megs each straight from my camera, smunched them down
to a size I can email, and saved them back out, no problems.

So I agree with others, the OP's problem appears to be local to his
machine.

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Lisi Reisz

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Jan 29, 2015, 9:30:04 AM1/29/15
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On Thursday 29 January 2015 13:55:55 Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Thursday 29 January 2015 08:49:14 Curt did opine
>
> And Gene did reply:
> > On 2015-01-29, Bret Busby <bret....@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> There is this bug report:
> > >>
> > >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734519
> > >
> > > That just gives me a web page that displays
> > > "Redirecting you to
> > > https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734519" that goes
> > > nowhere.
> >
> > Looks like yet another personal problem (I mean that is a functioning
> > url, as far as I am concerned).

It's OK here too.

> FWIW, I am still on Lucid LTS, and I just called in 6 pix, .JPG
> extensions, about 4 megs each straight from my camera, smunched them down
> to a size I can email, and saved them back out, no problems.
>
> So I agree with others, the OP's problem appears to be local to his
> machine.

Gene, you are, as you say, running Lucid. How can you possibly use that to
say that there is not a bug in Squeeze LTS???

Your experience with Lucid is totally irrelevant.

Lisi


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Bret Busby

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On 29/01/2015, Curt <cu...@free.fr> wrote:
> On 2015-01-29, Bret Busby <bret....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> There is this bug report:
>>>
>>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734519
>>
>> That just gives me a web page that displays
>> "Redirecting you to
>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734519"
>> that goes nowhere.
>>
>
> Looks like yet another personal problem (I mean that is a functioning
> url, as far as I am concerned).
>

Okay; the URL resolves (after a while) in Opera; it does not resolve
(after a number of hours) in Arora.

I note that that bug report, whilst it refers to the same error
message, relates to a different version of Debian; that bug report
refers to Debian 7.1.

As indicated, I am using Debian 6.x LTS.


>>> Perhaps if you tried moving ~/.gimp-2.6 out of the way, or reinstalling
>>> the gimp?
>>>
>>
>> Haven't tried either of those options, yet.
>>
>> I was thinking that, due to the circumstances involved, perhaps a
>> fault lies (?) with the update that was done to the file package.
>>
>
> I'm unaware of any recent updates to the gimp, but I might have missed
> something going by. Of course, if there had been one, and it was faulty, I
> too
> would have been affected, n'est-ce pas?
>

I did mention that an update had recently occurred, to the package
named "file", and this problem occurred after that update had been
implemented.

I can not find from the full message header as displayed in gmail,
which version number of Debian, you are using. Are you using Debian
6.x LTS, or, Debian 7.x (or, yet another version of Debian)?

If you are not also using Debian 6.x LTS, then you might not have the
same problem.

If you try to open a JPEG file with the GIMP, using the same procedure
as me; using the File Manager to open the file with the GIMP, are you
successful, with that procedure?

That, you have not indicated.



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published by Pan Books, 1992

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Lisi Reisz

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On Thursday 29 January 2015 14:52:53 Bret Busby wrote:
> >>> There is this bug report:
> >>>
> >>> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734519
> >>
> >> That just gives me a web page that displays
> >> "Redirecting you to
> >> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734519"
> >> that goes nowhere.
> >
> > Looks like yet another personal problem (I mean that is a functioning
> > url, as far as I am concerned).
>
> Okay; the URL resolves (after a while) in Opera; it does not resolve
> (after a number of hours) in Arora.

Resolves fine (=fast) in Google Chrome, Iceweasel and Konqueror. I never did
much like Opera. ;-)

Lisi


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Curt

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On 2015-01-29, Bret Busby <bret....@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Okay; the URL resolves (after a while) in Opera; it does not resolve
> (after a number of hours) in Arora.

Well, I think it's an Aurora problem not an url problem.

> I note that that bug report, whilst it refers to the same error
> message, relates to a different version of Debian; that bug report
> refers to Debian 7.1.

> As indicated, I am using Debian 6.x LTS.
>

As I said, I successfully open jpeg files from the console
(gimp <file.jpeg>), as well as from inside the gimp (using gimp's internal
file manager).

Once again, like you, I am running Squeeze lts.

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Bret Busby

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On 29/01/2015, Curt <cu...@free.fr> wrote:
> On 2015-01-29, Bret Busby <bret....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Okay; the URL resolves (after a while) in Opera; it does not resolve
>> (after a number of hours) in Arora.
>
> Well, I think it's an Aurora problem not an url problem.
>
>> I note that that bug report, whilst it refers to the same error
>> message, relates to a different version of Debian; that bug report
>> refers to Debian 7.1.
>
>> As indicated, I am using Debian 6.x LTS.
>>
>
> As I said, I successfully open jpeg files from the console
> (gimp <file.jpeg>), as well as from inside the gimp (using gimp's internal
> file manager).
>

Then, in the absence of information to the contrary, I assume that you
also are not able to open a JPEG file using the procedure that I
specified; using the File Manager, clicking on the file with the
non-dominant mouse button, and selecting the menu option <Open with ->
GIMP> .

Please confirm or refute that..


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Curt

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On 2015-01-29, Bret Busby <bret....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> As I said, I successfully open jpeg files from the console
>> (gimp <file.jpeg>), as well as from inside the gimp (using gimp's internal
>> file manager).
>
> Then, in the absence of information to the contrary, I assume that you
> also are not able to open a JPEG file using the procedure that I
> specified; using the File Manager, clicking on the file with the
> non-dominant mouse button, and selecting the menu option <Open with ->
> GIMP> .
>

What "File Manager" are you talking about again? I missed that part I
guess.

Works in Nautilus using your procedure (well, non-dominant mouse
button--I right-clicked--is that what you mean)?

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Bret Busby

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On 30/01/2015, Curt <cu...@free.fr> wrote:
> On 2015-01-29, Bret Busby <bret....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> As I said, I successfully open jpeg files from the console
>>> (gimp <file.jpeg>), as well as from inside the gimp (using gimp's
>>> internal
>>> file manager).
>>
>> Then, in the absence of information to the contrary, I assume that you
>> also are not able to open a JPEG file using the procedure that I
>> specified; using the File Manager, clicking on the file with the
>> non-dominant mouse button, and selecting the menu option <Open with ->
>> GIMP> .
>>
>
> What "File Manager" are you talking about again? I missed that part I
> guess.
>

The name for it is actually "File Browser". It has as its icon, a two
drawer filing cabinet. It is in the Applications -> System Tools menu.

> Works in Nautilus using your procedure (well, non-dominant mouse
> button--I right-clicked--is that what you mean)?
>

I try to consistently use the term "non-dominant mouse button" rather
than "right-clicking", to allow for people who use left handed mice,
as well as right-handed mice. My wife, who is a software developer,
uses mice and pointing devices (she sometimes uses trackball things),
for both hands, due to too much mouse usage, requiring the switching
of hands.



I have since last posting, checked, and found that file-jpeg is part
of the GIMP package, from the packages "Search by package contents"
facility on the packages.debian.org web page, and, not, as I had
assumed, part of the fiole package.

So, I tried the advice - removed then reinstalled the GIMP. That also
removed gnome-office (that I also reinstalled).

Now the GIMP will not load.

I assume, therefore, that my system is becoming even more unstable.

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Lisi Reisz

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On Thursday 29 January 2015 19:52:21 Bret Busby wrote:
> I try to consistently use the term "non-dominant mouse button" rather
> than "right-clicking", to allow for people who use left handed mice,
> as well as right-handed mice. My wife, who is a software developer,
> uses mice and pointing devices (she sometimes uses trackball things),
> for both hands, due to too much mouse usage, requiring the switching
> of hands.

Makes sense - but it needs the explanation. :-/ Right click is less
confusing, and can always be "translated".

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John Hasler

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Lisi writes:
> Makes sense - but it needs the explanation. :-/ Right click is less
> confusing, and can always be "translated".

It certainly does need explanation. "Non-dominant mouse button" makes
no sense at all to me. None of the four buttons on my trackball are
dominant.
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Bob Proulx

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Bret Busby wrote:
> I try to consistently use the term "non-dominant mouse button" rather
> than "right-clicking", to allow for people who use left handed mice,
> as well as right-handed mice. My wife, who is a software developer,
> uses mice and pointing devices (she sometimes uses trackball things),
> for both hands, due to too much mouse usage, requiring the switching
> of hands.

An admirable goal. However I think that is more confusing. A cure
worse than the disease. I think anyone that goes to the trouble to
modify their system to be reversed from the normal will know they have
reversed things and will make the translation on the fly. A user with
a left handed mouse will know to translate left-click into the correct
button for them. They will see it often enough.

Doesn't X documents this as Mouse-1 and Mouse-3? Clicking Mouse-1 is
the primary mouse button. No need to stress left or right and no need
for confusing "non-dominant mouse button" either. :-) I would go
with mouse-1.

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Curt

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On 2015-01-30, Bob Proulx <b...@proulx.com> wrote:
>
>
> Doesn't X documents this as Mouse-1 and Mouse-3? Clicking Mouse-1 is
> the primary mouse button. No need to stress left or right and no need
> for confusing "non-dominant mouse button" either. :-) I would go
> with mouse-1.
>

Have we taken the politically correct to painfully facetious
extremes?

We will now denominate the left-handed as "Non-majoritively unidextrous
persons."

Please be advised.

Of course, the lefties have been persecuted for centuries. I once read
that flipping through magazines from back to front (a habit of mine, as
the interesting stuff is always in the back) is the sign of a left-handed
individual who has been deprived in infancy of his natural impulse
towards non-majorititive unidexterity.

I have been dominated.

And so it goes.

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Lisi Reisz

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On Friday 30 January 2015 10:23:18 Curt wrote:
> I once read
> that flipping through magazines from back to front (a habit of mine, as
> the interesting stuff is always in the back) is the sign of a left-handed
> individual who has been deprived in infancy of his natural impulse
> towards non-majorititive unidexterity.

What about the Japanese?

Lisi


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Renaud OLGIATI

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 11:24:32 +0000
Lisi Reisz <lisi....@gmail.com> wrote:

> What about the Japanese?

not to mention the Israelis, Farsis, Urdus, and the Muslims ?

Cheers,

Ron.
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On 2015-01-30, Lisi Reisz <lisi....@gmail.com> wrote:
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> What about the Japanese?
>

Sorry. What I read was restricted to anglophones.

What about illiterates?


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On 2015-01-30, Curt <cu...@free.fr> wrote:
> On 2015-01-30, Lisi Reisz <lisi....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> What about the Japanese?
>>
>
> Sorry. What I read was restricted to anglophones.

Well, let's say "American Study" using empirical evidence gathered in
the good old USA applicable to, well, not the Japanese, obviously.

No, I'm not going vouch for the study nor bicker with anybody about it
any farther than this.

Sorry if it all wasn't clear to you from the beginning.

I'm outta here.

> What about illiterates?
>
>


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