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Pierre Frenkiel

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Oct 17, 2012, 2:10:02 PM10/17/12
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hi,
I made several attempts to put a UDF file system on a CD-RW, using
the programs of the udftools package, but none worked. Google showed several
people having the same problem, but I didn't find any "solved" flag...
Is it hopeless?

here is what I did

->>cdrwtool -d /dev/sr0 -b full
using device /dev/sr0
full blank
1029KB internal buffer
setting write speed to 12x
wait_cmd: Input/output error
Command failed: a1 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - sense 04.09.03
blank disc: Input/output error

->>cdrwtool -d /dev/sr0 -b fast
using device /dev/sr0
fast blank
1029KB internal buffer
setting write speed to 12x

OK, but after that:

->>cdrwtool -d /dev/sr0 -m 295264
using device /dev/sr0
formatting 295264 blocks
1029KB internal buffer
setting write speed to 12x
wait_cmd: Input/output error
Command failed: 04 17 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - sense 05.2c.00
format disc: Input/output error

->>mkudffs --media-type=cdrw /dev/sr0
trying to change type of multiple extents

in syslog, I got a lot of mesages like:
794.351757] sr 2:0:1:0: [sr0] Add. Sense: Logical block address out of range
794.351763] sr 2:0:1:0: [sr0] CDB: Read(10): 28 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 01 00
794.351772] end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 0
835.975688] cdrom: This disc doesn't have any tracks I recognize!

I tried this with several CD-RW, including a blank one, always getting the same results.

Has anybody an idea?

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Ralf Mardorf

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Oct 17, 2012, 2:40:01 PM10/17/12
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I experienced two "things" as problematic with Linux.
CD-RAM and independent from the CD-RAM issue, UDF too.

I can't help, but I'll watch this thread ;).


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Kelly Clowers

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Oct 17, 2012, 3:00:01 PM10/17/12
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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Ralf Mardorf
<ralf.m...@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> I experienced two "things" as problematic with Linux.
> CD-RAM and independent from the CD-RAM issue, UDF too.

You must mean CD-R or CD-RW? Or DVD-RAM, but that pretty much failed
early, leaving DVD-R(W) and DVD+R(W). If you do have DVD-RAM, I am not
surprised there where problems.


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Slavko

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Oct 17, 2012, 3:00:02 PM10/17/12
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Ahoj,

Dňa Wed, 17 Oct 2012 20:33:35 +0200 Ralf Mardorf
<ralf.m...@alice-dsl.net> napísal:

> I experienced two "things" as problematic with Linux.
> CD-RAM and independent from the CD-RAM issue, UDF too.

I have no experiences with udftool and CD-RW, only with DVD-RAM.

I was playing with this a long time ago, but i was success with DVD-RAM.
I tried take look into my notes, but i found only this now:

**************************
Not starting udftools packet writing: No devices listed in /etc/default/udftools

mkudffs --media-type=dvdram -r 0x0150 --utf8 --vid=DiskName --lvid=MyName /dev/dvdram
**************************

The 1,5 revision (-r 0x0150) was for usage under windows, where was no
support for newest revisions. By my notes, the "vid" is used under
Windows and the "lvid" is used under Linux, but i am not sure for this.

Don't forget to set the proper permissions after FS creating (mine was
only for root). But finally i am using the FAT for DVD-RAM, because
there was some problems with sharing the files between more accounts.

Hope this help you.

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Ralf Mardorf

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Oct 17, 2012, 3:40:03 PM10/17/12
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Oops, yes I meant DVD-RAM. Sometimes they worked like a charm, but for
many installs I couldn't get them working. I guess today DVD-RAM anyway
is completely obsolet.



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Ralf Mardorf

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Oct 17, 2012, 3:50:01 PM10/17/12
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Thank you Slavko :)

On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 21:32 +0200, I wrote:
> Oops, yes I meant DVD-RAM. Sometimes they worked like a charm, but for
> many installs I couldn't get them working. I guess today DVD-RAM
> anyway is completely obsolet.

I guess I'm mistaken, on some installs they worked like a charm and on
most installs they were to slow. Really slow, IIRC copying 1kB still
wasn't done after an hour or something strange like that.

Perhaps interesting to play with those DVD-RAM monsters. OT: A Linux
audio penpal some minutes ago mentioned something else to play with. The
Rasberry Pi, unfortunately it's twice as expensive as promised by the
hype and I hardly have enough money to survive. However, this Rasberry
thingy does siren calls ;).

Regards,
Ralf


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Kelly Clowers

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Oct 17, 2012, 5:00:03 PM10/17/12
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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 12:45 PM, Ralf Mardorf
<ralf.m...@alice-dsl.net> wrote:
> Thank you Slavko :)
>
> On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 21:32 +0200, I wrote:
>> Oops, yes I meant DVD-RAM. Sometimes they worked like a charm, but for
>> many installs I couldn't get them working. I guess today DVD-RAM
>> anyway is completely obsolet.
>
> I guess I'm mistaken, on some installs they worked like a charm and on
> most installs they were to slow. Really slow, IIRC copying 1kB still
> wasn't done after an hour or something strange like that.
>
> Perhaps interesting to play with those DVD-RAM monsters.

Interesting that several people here have DVD-RAM, I don't know anyone
personally that has one. It sounds like it was an interesting beast,
too bad it pretty much died out.



> OT: A Linux
> audio penpal some minutes ago mentioned something else to play with. The
> Rasberry Pi, unfortunately it's twice as expensive as promised by the
> hype and I hardly have enough money to survive. However, this Rasberry
> thingy does siren calls ;).

Raspberry Pi is cool (not my cup of tea, but cool nonetheless). It
looks like it is selling for 35 USD, which is what I always heard
quoted.

Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Ralf Mardorf

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Oct 17, 2012, 5:40:02 PM10/17/12
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Apologize Pierre, it wasn't intended to capture your thread.

On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 13:56 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
> Interesting that several people here have DVD-RAM, I don't know anyone
> personally that has one. It sounds like it was an interesting beast,
> too bad it pretty much died out.

Most drives are DVD-RAM compatible, perhaps you can get one for 2 or 3 $
or EUR or whatever currency.

http://www.reichelt.de/DVD-RW-RAM-Mini-Rohlinge/DVD-RAM4-7-VER/3//index.html?ACTION=3&GROUPID=3727&ARTICLE=49219&SHOW=1&START=0&OFFSET=16&

What I really like is LightScribe. Nearly all elCheapo drives support
LightScribe, but I can't buy them at the discounter I have to order
them.

http://such002.reichelt.de/index.html?;ACTION=446;LA=446;SEARCH=lightscribe;OFFSET=16;SORT=-rank;SHOW=1;SID=11UH8hU38AAAIAAGY8Aig32ece2c030db62fdaec2aa9df931411c;GROUPID=921


> Raspberry Pi is cool (not my cup of tea, but cool nonetheless). It
> looks like it is selling for 35 USD, which is what I always heard
> quoted.

I suspect I'm too old and sluggish, when I was young I played with
hardware and programmed Assembler and unbelievable, even C. Today I
don't have those abilities anymore. Yes, it's cool, but I suspect I
wouldn't use it, I would be to lazy to learn, or I would learn and then
spend more time with Computers, then I really would lose any real world
social contacts, would feed myself with more junk foot. At some point
it's better to stop ;).

Regards,
Ralf



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Dom

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On 17/10/12 22:37, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Apologize Pierre, it wasn't intended to capture your thread.
>
> On Wed, 2012-10-17 at 13:56 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:
>>
>> Raspberry Pi is cool (not my cup of tea, but cool nonetheless). It
>> looks like it is selling for 35 USD, which is what I always heard
>> quoted.
>
> I suspect I'm too old and sluggish, when I was young I played with
> hardware and programmed Assembler and unbelievable, even C. Today I
> don't have those abilities anymore. Yes, it's cool, but I suspect I
> wouldn't use it, I would be to lazy to learn, or I would learn and then
> spend more time with Computers, then I really would lose any real world
> social contacts, would feed myself with more junk foot. At some point
> it's better to stop ;).

You're never too old :-)

I bought a Raspberry Pi soon after they first came out, and it is great
fun to work on. My C skills are weak, but I've managed to create a few
small apps for it. Also, I used to dabble in ARM assembler back when I
had a BBC Micro, and a little later. I do like the fact that it is
possible to write small native apps to run on the "bare metal" system
without any OS required.

As for the price being different to the original quotes - the $25 price
is for the "model A" which isn't available yet (due around Christmas, I
believe). The "model B" currently selling has 2 USB ports, compared to
the one port on the A, and the A doesn't have ethernet. Also, current
model Bs now have 512MB of RAM, instead of the original 256MB (I suspect
the model A will have 256MB).

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Ralf Mardorf

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:)

So you encourage me to drop social contacts and to eat more junk
food ;)?

:D
Ralf


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Pierre Frenkiel

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Oct 18, 2012, 12:20:03 PM10/18/12
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On Wed, 17 Oct 2012, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> I experienced two "things" as problematic with Linux.
> CD-RAM and independent from the CD-RAM issue, UDF too.
>
> I can't help, but I'll watch this thread ;).

Up to now, this thread became redirected to DVD-RAM and Raspberry, but
fortunately, I found the solution for udftools : follow the instructions in

/usr/share/doc/udftools/README.Debian.gz

Everything worked like charm for me, with a DVD-RW and a CR-RW
Strange that the man documentation is so poor. They should at least
give a link to the README.

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Ralf Mardorf

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On Thu, 2012-10-18 at 18:11 +0200, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> /usr/share/doc/udftools/README.Debian.gz

Thank you


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Chris Bannister

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 11:37:19PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> spend more time with Computers, then I really would lose any real world
> social contacts, would feed myself with more junk foot.

Has that got anything to do with "putting your foot in your mouth?"
SCNR

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