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What is the status of Xorg 7.0?

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Jan Brons

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Apr 25, 2006, 3:40:17 AM4/25/06
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I am wondering if the Xorg 7.0 update problems are solved. I am using
Sid AMD64 and just want to do a apt-update but are mainly waiting for
most of the Xorg problems are solved. If I do an update I see for
example that xserver-common 6.9 xfree86-common and xprint are going
to be removed. Can't find this to be an safe option! I am no Xorg
expert, so can anyone give me a clue?

==================================================
The following packages will be REMOVED:
freeglut3-dev gedit gnome-media gsfonts-x11 lbxproxy libaa1-dev
libarts1-dev libeel2-2 libglut3-dev libgnome2-canvas-perl
libgnome2-perl libopenscenegraph libosgcal libqt4-debug
libsdl1.2-dev libxft1 libxv-dev nautilus nautilus-cd-burner
plib1.8.4-dev proxymngr twm xdm xfonts-konsole xfree86-common xfs xfwp
xli xlibmesa-glu xlibmesa-glu-dev
xlibs-static-pic xprint xprt-xprintorg xserver-common xwnc
==========================================
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libcairo-perl libdirectfb-0.9-24 libdirectfb-extra libfontenc-dev
libfontenc1 libglu1-mesa libglu1-mesa-dev libglu1-xorg
libglu1-xorg-dev libgnutls13 libmpeg3-1 libmpeg3-dev libx11-data
libxau-dev libxdmcp-dev libxfixes-dev libxfont-dev libxfont1
libxmu-headers tzdata x11proto-core-dev x11proto-fixes-dev
x11proto-fonts-dev x11proto-input-dev x11proto-kb-dev
x11proto-randr-dev x11proto-render-dev x11proto-xext-dev
x11proto-xf86vidmode-dev x11proto-xinerama-dev xbitmaps xcursor-themes
xfonts-encodings xfonts-utils xkb-data-legacy
xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-all xserver-xorg-input-evdev
xserver-xorg-input-kbd xserver-xorg-input-mouse
xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-video-all
xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati
xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus
xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-dummy
xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-glint
xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i810 xserver-xorg-video-mga
xserver-xorg-video-neomagic xserver-xorg-video-nv
xserver-xorg-video-rendition xserver-xorg-video-s3
xserver-xorg-video-s3virge xserver-xorg-video-savage
xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion xserver-xorg-video-sis
xserver-xorg-video-sisusb
xserver-xorg-video-tdfx xserver-xorg-video-tga
xserver-xorg-video-trident xserver-xorg-video-tseng
xserver-xorg-video-vesa xserver-xorg-video-vga xserver-xorg-video-via
xserver-xorg-video-voodoo xtrans-dev xutils-dev
===============================================================

Thanks in advance,

Jan.

Miguel Enrique Cobá Martínez

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Apr 25, 2006, 10:30:16 PM4/25/06
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Jan Brons wrote:
> I am wondering if the Xorg 7.0 update problems are solved. I am using
> Sid AMD64 and just want to do a apt-update but are mainly waiting for
> most of the Xorg problems are solved. If I do an update I see for
> example that xserver-common 6.9 xfree86-common and xprint are going
> to be removed. Can't find this to be an safe option! I am no Xorg
> expert, so can anyone give me a clue?
>


I have just aptitude dist-upgraded a few day ago and all is working fine.

miguel@debian:~$ dpkg -l|grep xorg
ii libglu1-xorg 7.0.14
transitional package for Debian etch
ii xorg 7.0.14 X.Org X
Window System
ii xserver-xorg 7.0.14 the
X.Org X server
ii xserver-xorg-core 1.0.2-5 X.Org X
server -- core server
ii xserver-xorg-input-all 7.0.14 the
X.Org X server -- input driver metapacka
ii xserver-xorg-input-evdev 1.0.0.5-2 X.Org X
server -- evdev input driver
ii xserver-xorg-input-kbd 1.0.1.3-2 X.Org X
server -- keyboard input driver
ii xserver-xorg-input-mouse 1.0.4-2 X.Org X
server -- mouse input driver
ii xserver-xorg-input-synaptics 0.14.4-4
Synaptics TouchPad driver for X.Org/XFree86

You should do the following:
# aptitude update
# aptitude -d upgrade
(this is for just downloading the .debs)
then, when all is downloaded, logout your graphical desktop (no reboot
nor shutdown), change to a VT, CTRL + ALT + F1 for example, and execute
as root
# /etc/init/gdm stop
# cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup.6.9
# aptitude upgrade
(this will begin the instalation of new .debs)

if X11 doesnt start try
#dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg

remember to check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors (lines beginning with (EE))
you can start X alone (without a desktop manager) as normal user with

$ X

if you can see a black and white pattern and a cursor, all is ok.

When all is ok, you can start your desktop manager with:

# /etc/init.d/gdm start

Try it!

P.D If you can't start X and need to search the internet for help, use
links, lynx or elinks. They are text-mode web browsers.

> Thanks in advance,
>
> Jan.
>
>


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Jan Brons

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Apr 26, 2006, 2:31:18 AM4/26/06
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So, I did backup xorg.conf just in case. I read somewhere the font
paths are changed to /usr/share/font/X11 and some other things. I'll
let apt change xorg.conf.

But, you are saying that xsever-common isn't important anymore. I
suppose that it is replaced by an equilivant package. The same is with
xprint, etc.? Then it should be safe to remove these packages. I'll
give it a try tonight!

I love lynx, as it helped me a couple of times when I messed up Nvidia.

Jan.

chris roddy

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Apr 27, 2006, 2:50:10 PM4/27/06
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Jan Brons wrote:
> I am wondering if the Xorg 7.0 update problems are solved. I am using
> Sid AMD64 and just want to do a apt-update but are mainly waiting for
> most of the Xorg problems are solved. If I do an update I see for
> example that xserver-common 6.9 xfree86-common and xprint are going
> to be removed. Can't find this to be an safe option! I am no Xorg
> expert, so can anyone give me a clue?
>

I updated one system today and it was kind of messy, but everything
worked out eventually. I had to do 'apt-get -f install' and 'dpkg
--configure -a' a few times because of missing or unconfigurable
packages, but in the end 'apt-get dist-upgrade' succeeded and pulled in
what it needed.

I had a foreign .deb package of Opera installed, as well as Xnest from
main, and those packages left files in /usr/X11R6/bin; some package
during the upgrade insisted that that directory had to be empty, so I
had to purge those packages and start the dist-upgrade again.

I moved /etc/X11/xorg.conf out of the way, and then did
'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg xserver-xorg core' to write a new
configuration. On this system I use the 'nv' driver and the
configuration generated by debconf worked flawlessly. I had to do
'apt-get --reinstall install xfonts-base xfs' as others have noted,
although Xorg did start without errors before I'd done that (xterm and
xfontsel were crashing beforehand).

I'd say that this is a good time to update if you've been waiting.

cmr

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