KDE4 , Squeeze: Space fun background keeps appearing under kde login splash
Joao Roscoe
Regards,
João
Walter Hurry
Are you using KDM to log in? You might want to look at kdmrc.
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Joao Roscoe
Camaleón
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> On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Walter Hurry
> <walte...@lavabit.com>wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 11:15:09 -0300, Joao Roscoe wrote:
>>
>> > I almost suceeded removing space fun from my desktop, but I could not
>> > remove it from kde login splash background. Choosing "default" or
>> > "none" in systemsettings' "Look & Feel > Appearance > Splash Screen"
>> > had no effect. Any hints?
>>
>> Are you using KDM to log in? You might want to look at kdmrc.
> Kdmrc deals with stuff that take place **before** login, isn't it? I
> need to deal with the desktop background which is shown **after** login,
> while the user's session is being loaded, and there's a nice splash with
> fading icons...
I guess that's still KDM...
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Scott Ferguson
>
You don't say which Debian you are running.... :-(
Parts of KDE have yet to be backported to Squeeze, you'll notice the
main missing parts when you aren't given the sudo option required for
various parts of SystemSettings. eg. Samba and Login Manager.
Create a copy of the existing SystemSettings entry in your Menu, change
the name to "System Settings - As ROOT", and under "Advanced" select
"Run as different user", enter "root" as the different user, and click
on "Save".
Choose the new "System Settings - As ROOT" menu entry, enter your root
password, go to "Advanced" => "Login Manager" and make your desired changes.
How are you "removing space fun from my desktop"? Replacing I'd understand:-
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes
- even modifying - but "removing" sounds like an un-necessary and
possibly ugly hack (hint update-alternatives).
NOTE: you are not forced to accept themes, login or boot splashes, nor
are they difficult to change, or poorly documented - hundreds of
patently wrong articles and posts to the contrary not withstanding ;-p
Cheers
P.S. debian-kde is a more appropriate list if you want useful answers.
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Joao Roscoe
I did it, in the subject of the original post - it's squeeze.
> Create a copy of the existing SystemSettings entry in your Menu...
> Change the name to "System Settings - As ROOT", and under "Advanced" select
> "Run as different user", enter "root" as the different user, and click
> on "Save".
>
> Choose the new "System Settings - As ROOT" menu entry, enter your root
> password, go to "Advanced" => "Login Manager" and make your desired changes.
Did that (great tip, I was missing it), and double checked the options
both in "System>Login Manager" *and* in "Look & Feel>Appearance>Splash
Screen". There's no mention to "Space fun" left there. However, space
fun is being really stubborn, and it is still there (only for about
two seconds, right after hitting <ENTER> in the login greeter - after
that, it is substituted by user's choice of desktop background).
> How are you "removing space fun from my desktop"? Replacing I'd understand:-
> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes
> - even modifying - but "removing" sounds like an un-necessary and
> possibly ugly hack (hint update-alternatives).
Yes, I did it by replacing it with "moreblue-orbit", via update
alternatives - no ugly hack here, I don't like doing stuff that way,
either :-)
But, I *did* disabled the themed greeter, via /etc/default/kdm.d/
> NOTE: you are not forced to accept themes, login or boot splashes, nor
> are they difficult to change, or poorly documented - hundreds of
> patently wrong articles and posts to the contrary not withstanding ;-p
Yes, It took me some research, but I eventually discovered that
update-alternatives cover that.
> P.S. debian-kde is a more appropriate list if you want useful answers.
Ok, I'll ask at debian-kde.
Best regards,
João
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Scott Ferguson
>> You don't say which Debian you are running.... :-(
>
> I did it, in the subject of the original post - it's squeeze.
Ah - subject line/s.... eyes not connected to brain :-)
<snipped>
>
> Did that (great tip, I was missing it), and double checked the
> options both in "System>Login Manager"
First panel - untick "Use Themed Greeter" - it'll then allow
modifications to the greeter.
<snipped>
> However, space fun is being really stubborn, and it is still there
> (only for about two seconds, right after hitting <ENTER> in the login
> greeter - after that, it is substituted by user's choice of desktop
> background).
The greeter has a background, after the greeter is the kde splash screen
(if you have it enabled).
The first flash of desktop that you see after the kdm splash screen is
usually your virtual desktop (if you have different wallpapers). My
second virtual desktop has a blue and pink screen so it's easy to spot.
<snipped>
> Yes, I did it by replacing it with "moreblue-orbit", via update
> alternatives - no ugly hack here, I don't like doing stuff that way,
> either :-) But, I *did* disabled the themed greeter, via
> /etc/default/kdm.d/
As root you can do that with SystemSettings (see earlier comment re:Use
Themed greeter)
Try man genkdmconf for (even) more fun ;-p
<snipped>
> Yes, It took me some research, but I eventually discovered that
> update-alternatives cover that.
>
>> P.S. debian-kde is a more appropriate list if you want useful
>> answers.
>
> Ok, I'll ask at debian-kde.
Not that you won't get answers here - I suspect the KDE gurus spend more
time on the kde list though...
>
> Best regards, Jo�o
>
Grub splashes are especially easy to modify - use an existing splash as
a template and GIMP to modify. No need to mess with
/etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme, just copy the modified image to /boot/grub
and run update-grub, doesn't even need to be a .tga. Which explains the
various image modules in /boot/grub.
NOTE: update-grub treats everything in /etc/grub.d as a config file -
even files named /05_debian.theme.bak.bz2 :-/
Cheers
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Joao Roscoe
hardware based DRI - I switched back from proprietary to free driver,
and it was not working properly due to lack of ATI non-free firmware
package. Now that this is solved, I got back to the ksplash issue, and
I discovered that, now, ksplash simply will not show.
I then fired SystemSettings as root, selected "Look and Feel" >
"Appearance" > "Splash Screen" > "Default", and then hit the "Test
Theme" button. Got an error: "Failed to successfully test the splash
screen".
So, I did the same as regular user. I found that my personal theme
choice was already "Default", and the test button worked. Also, I
typed >ksplahsx Default --test in konsole, and that worked also.
Then, I logged out, and logged in again. Still, no splash at all, only
a white rectangle on the left top screen corner.
Any hints?
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Joao Roscoe
Thanks, Scott
Best regards,
João
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