Which Network Controller Card handling Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, etc., connectivities, is GNU/Linux Approved/certified, and would be (1) compatible with my HP laptop's motherboard, and (2) could replace the "Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)"

Susmita/Rajib

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Oct 24, 2023, 6:40:07 AM10/24/23

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My dear illustrious Group Leaders and Senior Members, Debian-User
group, debia...@lists.debian.org

May please my present query be raed in the light of the post:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00649.html

I need links to cards approved to be the best compatible with the
Debian Universe. I will replace my native card with that card,
provided its availability in Bharat.

A thorough advice and inputs on the issue would be welcome.

I have reached the post at https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI

Best wishes,
Rajib
Etc.

The select portions of System Information:

Computer
********

Summary
-------

-Computer-
Processor : Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4005U CPU @ 1.70GHz
Memory : 3950MB (1854MB used)
Machine Type : Notebook
Operating System : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)

Date/Time : Tue 24 Oct 2023 09:56:08 AM IST
-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
OpenGL Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 4400 (HSW GT2)
X11 Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
-Audio Devices-
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel HDMI
Audio Adapter : HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH
-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
Lid Switch
Power Button
Power Button
Video Bus
SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
HP Wireless hotkeys
PC Speaker
HP WMI hotkeys
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:3
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:7
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:8
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:9
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:10
HDA Digital PCBeep
HDA Intel PCH Mic
HDA Intel PCH Headphone
HP Truevision HD: HP Truevision
YSPRINGTECH USB OPTICAL MOUSE
-Printers-
No printers found

Operating System
----------------

-Version-
Kernel : Linux 5.10.0-20-amd64 (x86_64)
Version : #1 SMP Debian 5.10.158-2 (2022-12-13)
C Library : GNU C Library / (Debian GLIBC 2.31-13+deb11u5) 2.31
Distribution : Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
-Misc-
Uptime : 3 days 12 hours 38 minutes
Load Average : 0.31, 0.38, 0.45
Available entropy in /dev/random : 256 bits (medium)

Display
-------

-Display-
Resolution : 1366x768 pixels
Vendor : The X.Org Foundation
Version : 1.20.11
Current Display Name : :0
-Monitors-
Monitor 0 : 1366x768 pixels
-OpenGL-
Vendor : Intel Open Source Technology Center
Renderer : Mesa DRI Intel(R) HD Graphics 4400 (HSW GT2)
Version : 3.0 Mesa 20.3.5
Direct Rendering : Yes
-Extensions-
Composite
DAMAGE
DOUBLE-BUFFER
DPMS
DRI2
DRI3
GLX
Generic Event Extension
MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
MIT-SHM
Present
RANDR
RECORD
RENDER
SECURITY
SHAPE
SYNC
X-Resource
XC-MISC
XFIXES
XFree86-DGA
XFree86-VidModeExtension
XINERAMA
XInputExtension
XKEYBOARD
XTEST
XVideo
default screen number: 0

Environment Variables
---------------------

-Environment Variables-
XDG_SEAT : seat0
XDG_SESSION_TYPE : x11
SSH_AGENT_PID : 20518
DESKTOP_SESSION : LXDE
XDG_SEAT_PATH : /org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Seat0
GTK_MODULES : gail:atk-bridge
DBUS_SESSION_BUS_ADDRESS : unix:path=/run/user/1000/bus
GTK_IM_MODULE : ibus
XDG_SESSION_CLASS : user
XDG_SESSION_ID : 31
SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN : gtk
PATH : /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games
XDG_SESSION_PATH : /org/freedesktop/DisplayManager/Session1
XDG_RUNTIME_DIR : /run/user/1000
XDG_MENU_PREFIX : lxde-
DISPLAY : :0
LANG : en_US.UTF-8
XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP : LXDE
XDG_SESSION_DESKTOP : LXDE
XMODIFIERS : @im=ibus
SHELL : /bin/bash
GDMSESSION : LXDE
QT_ACCESSIBILITY : 1
GPG_AGENT_INFO : /run/user/1000/gnupg/S.gpg-agent:0:1
XDG_VTNR : 7
QT_IM_MODULE : ibus
CLUTTER_IM_MODULE : ibus
XDG_DATA_DIRS :
/usr/local/share:/usr/share:/usr/share/gdm:/var/lib/menu-xdg:/usr/local/share/:/usr/share/:/usr/share/gdm/:/var/lib/menu-xdg/
_LXSESSION_PID : 20447
XDG_CONFIG_DIRS : /etc/xdg

Devices
*******

Processor
---------

-Processors-
Package Information
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4005U CPU @ 1.70GHz 0 0:0 1600.00 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4005U CPU @ 1.70GHz 1 0:1 1600.00 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4005U CPU @ 1.70GHz 2 0:0 1600.00 MHz
Intel(R) Core(TM) i3-4005U CPU @ 1.70GHz 3 0:1 1600.00 MHz

Memory
------

-Memory-
MemTotal Total Memory 3950776 KiB
MemFree Free Memory 1131784 KiB
MemAvailable 1756544 KiB
Buffers 55060 KiB
Cached 970464 KiB
SwapCached Cached Swap 47916 KiB
Active 1062796 KiB
Inactive 1432056 KiB
Active(anon) 724988 KiB
Inactive(anon) 977996 KiB
Active(file) 337808 KiB
Inactive(file) 454060 KiB
Unevictable 40708 KiB
Mlocked 64 KiB
SwapTotal Virtual Memory 19529724 KiB
SwapFree Free Virtual Memory 18908720 KiB
Dirty 40 KiB
Writeback 0 KiB
AnonPages 1471400 KiB
Mapped 258160 KiB
Shmem 233656 KiB
KReclaimable 79092 KiB
Slab 151180 KiB
SReclaimable 79092 KiB
SUnreclaim 72088 KiB
KernelStack 11040 KiB
PageTables 23468 KiB
NFS_Unstable 0 KiB
Bounce 0 KiB
WritebackTmp 0 KiB
CommitLimit 21505112 KiB
Committed_AS 5747600 KiB
VmallocTotal -1 KiB
VmallocUsed 53456 KiB
VmallocChunk 0 KiB
Percpu 3888 KiB
HardwareCorrupted 0 KiB
AnonHugePages 288768 KiB
ShmemHugePages 0 KiB
ShmemPmdMapped 0 KiB
FileHugePages 0 KiB
FilePmdMapped 0 KiB
HugePages_Total 0
HugePages_Free 0
HugePages_Rsvd 0
HugePages_Surp 0
Hugepagesize 2048 KiB
Hugetlb 0 KiB
DirectMap4k 318524 KiB
DirectMap2M 3801088 KiB
DirectMap1G 1048576 KiB

PCI Devices
-----------

-PCI Devices-
Host bridge : Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT DRAM Controller (rev 0b)
VGA compatible controller : Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Integrated
Graphics Controller (rev 0b) (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])
Audio device : Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT HD Audio Controller (rev 0b)
Signal processing controller : Intel Corporation Haswell-ULT Thermal
Subsystem (rev 0b)
USB controller : Intel Corporation 8 Series USB xHCI HC (rev 04)
(prog-if 30 [XHCI])
Communication controller : Intel Corporation 8 Series HECI #0 (rev 04)
Audio device : Intel Corporation 8 Series HD Audio Controller (rev 04)
PCI bridge : Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 1 (rev
e4) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
PCI bridge : Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 3 (rev
e4) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
PCI bridge : Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 5 (rev
e4) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
PCI bridge : Intel Corporation 8 Series PCI Express Root Port 6 (rev
e4) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
ISA bridge : Intel Corporation 8 Series LPC Controller (rev 04)
SATA controller : Intel Corporation 8 Series SATA Controller 1 [AHCI
mode] (rev 04) (prog-if 01 [AHCI 1.0])
SMBus : Intel Corporation 8 Series SMBus Controller (rev 04)
Signal processing controller : Intel Corporation 8 Series Thermal (rev 04)
Ethernet controller : Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL810xE PCI
Express Fast Ethernet controller (rev 07)
Display controller : Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Sun XT
[Radeon HD 8670A/8670M/8690M / R5 M330 / M430 / Radeon 520 Mobile]
(rev 83)
Network controller : Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142
802.11b/g/n (rev 01)

USB Devices
-----------

-USB Devices-
Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd HP Truevision HD
Broadcom Corp. BCM43142A0 Bluetooth 4.0
Silicon Labs USB OPTICAL MOUSE
Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

Battery
-------

-Battery: BAT1-
State : Full
Capacity : 100 / Full
Battery Technology : Li-ion
Manufacturer : COMPAL
Model Number : PABAS0241231
Serial Number : 41167

Sensors
-------

-Sensors-
../../thermal_zone0/temp1 Temperature 27.80°C
../../BAT1/in0 Voltage 16.44V
../../thermal_zone2/temp1 Temperature 47.50°C
coretemp/temp1 Temperature 53.00°C
coretemp/temp2 Temperature 49.00°C
coretemp/temp3 Temperature 49.00°C
thermal/thermal_zone2 Temperature 47.50°C
thermal/thermal_zone0 Temperature 27.80°C
thermal/thermal_zone3 Temperature 53.05°C
thermal/thermal_zone1 Temperature 20.00°C
thermal/thermal_zone4 Temperature 53.00°C

Input Devices
-------------

-Input Devices-
AT Translated Set 2 keyboard
Lid Switch
Power Button
Power Button
Video Bus
SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad
HP Wireless hotkeys
PC Speaker
HP WMI hotkeys
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:3
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:7
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:8
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:9
HDA Intel HDMI HDMI/DP,pcm:10
HDA Digital PCBeep
HDA Intel PCH Mic
HDA Intel PCH Headphone
HP Truevision HD: HP Truevision
YSPRINGTECH USB OPTICAL MOUSE

Storage
-------

DMI
---

-Product-
Name : HP Notebook (Hewlett-Packard, www.hp.com)
Family : 103C_5335KV G=N L=CON B=HP (Hewlett-Packard, www.hp.com)
Vendor : Hewlett-Packard (Hewlett-Packard, www.hp.com)
Version : Type1ProductConfigId
-BIOS-
Date : 03/24/2015
Vendor : Insyde
Version : F.02
-Board-
Name : 80C4
Vendor : Hewlett-Packard (Hewlett-Packard, www.hp.com)
Version : 96.02
Serial Number : (Not available; Perhaps try running HardInfo as root.)
Asset Tag : Type2 - Board Asset Tag
-Chassis-
Vendor : Hewlett-Packard (Hewlett-Packard, www.hp.com)
Type : [10] Notebook
Version : Chassis Version
Serial Number : (Not available; Perhaps try running HardInfo as root.)
Asset Tag : Chassis Asset Tag

Memory SPD
----------

-SPD-
Please load the eeprom module to obtain information about memory SPD

Resources
---------

-I/O Ports-
<tt>0000-0000 </tt> : PCI Bus 0000:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt>0000-0000 </tt> : PCI Bus 0000:00
<tt>0000-0000 </tt> : PCI Bus 0000:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
<tt> 0000-0000 </tt> : pnp 00:00
-Memory-
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : iTCO_wdt.1.auto iTCO_wdt.1.auto
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : iTCO_wdt.1.auto iTCO_wdt.1.auto
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : iTCO_wdt.1.auto iTCO_wdt.1.auto
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : intel-spi
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt> 00000000-00000000 </tt> : Kernel bss
<tt>00000000-00000000 </tt> : RAM buffer
-DMA-
<tt> 4</tt> : cascade

Network
*******

Interfaces
----------

-Network Interfaces-
lo 0.53MiB 0.53MiB 127.0.0.1
enp2s0 0.00MiB 0.00MiB
wlp4s0 1487.73MiB 293.97MiB 192.168.1.11

Dan Purgert

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On Oct 24, 2023, Susmita/Rajib wrote:
> [...]

> -Product-
> Name : HP Notebook (Hewlett-Packard, www.hp.com)
> Family : 103C_5335KV G=N L=CON B=HP (Hewlett-Packard, www.hp.com)
> Vendor : Hewlett-Packard (Hewlett-Packard, www.hp.com)
>

HP are generally very anti-consumer, and include device whitelists in
their BIOS/UEFI loaders that will prevent your PC from booting if there
isn't HP-approved wifi (etc.) in there -- at least on the PCI bus.

Additionally, your machine (or at least the model) appears to be about
10 years old (so chances of HP still selling parts is a bit slim); so
you're probably "limited" to grabbing one of the generic USB dongles
that're on the market, based on various Realtek chipsets (such as the
8811xU 802.11a/b/g/n/ac ones).

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Susmita/Rajib

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From: Dan Purgert <d...@djph.net>
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 07:45:13 -0400
Message-id: <[🔎] ZTeuScPL...@framework.djph.net>
In-reply-to: <[🔎] ZTeuScPL...@framework.djph.net>

Thank you, Mr. Purgert, for replying to my message. This
self-annihilating proprietary ecosystem needs to crumble down. I agree
with you, but we in Bharat have presently very little to no other
alternatives.

My nation actually became independent from the Brit exploitative
controls only in 2014. It will take some time for us to build our own
tech infrastructure and get back to our historical GDP levels, as
discussed by Angus Maddison, reflected in
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Yuri-Yegorov/publication/362231713/figure/fig1/AS:1181682669494278@1658746511970/The-global-contribution-to-worlds-GDP-by-major-economies-from-1-CE-to-2003-CE-according.ppm

We were a civilisation far advanced than even the modern world,
(considering the positive non-zero sum cooperative Games surrounding
our Mandir ecosystem) truly globally spread out, nearly overrun by the
twin hostile cults from the resource-stressed lands, first the
perpetually-thirsty hordes, then by the "Doctrine of Discovery" Papal
Bull "Inter Caetera" issued by Pope Alexander VI on May 4, 1493.

Which is why the west will never acknowledge our true gifts to the
humankind. Cursorily, here and there, they will say that India
contributed "0". But imagine using the Roman numeral system for even
simple computations, which the west used until the 1st invaders took
our computations with them.

Our texts record that the principles of Gravity was discovered many
centuries before the thief. Also, Pre-calculus. And much more. For
instance, this Indix short video: Indians Discovered Theory of
Gravitation or Sir Isaac Newton, at youtu.be/xd2KFjtaJiE. Had we not
been invaded upon by parasitic zombies, may be, the origin of
antikythera device would have been traced back to Bharat. Could have
Antikythera device been possible without a rudimentary compound
microscope? Only Bharat had a continual civilisation since at least
the eruption of Mount Toba. Dig a little further and you might be
surprised.

Good references would be Rajiv Malhotra's Breaking India, The History
Of India As Told By Its Historians, by Henry Miers Elliot and the
several studies on global migration patterns using epigenetic markers
which indicate an Out Of Bharat Theory and decimates the Aryan
Invasion Myth.

We are gradually getting back to our feet. We will hopefully reset the
1000 years exploitations, much wiser than earlier. Along the way the
faux cults shall be self-obliterated because of their lies getting
exposed. Perhaps the truly cognitively-retards will continue to follow
them.

Imagine that Bharat didn't invade any nation! We spread the message of
Vasudhaiva Kutumbakam: We All Are One family. The Holographic Universe
is reflected in The Upanishads; and much more ...

SUMMARY:
So with the above perspective and getting back to my queries ...
Therefore, a Link to the list of cards, preferably in Debian, like the
one mentioned earlier as DeviceDatabase/PCI, which to buy from, would
be welcome.
Then let us see if the HP BIOS interferes with the card. If required,
I would try to find if a Framework Laptop by Nirav Patel, Founder of
Framework and Team Framework, is available nearby.
One small step at a time.

Susmita/Rajib

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Oct 28, 2023, 8:10:07 AM10/28/23

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My dear Illustrious Leaders and Senior Members of the debian-user Mailing List,

I would again return to my earlier post at:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00650.html

That is, the First Mail of this thread with the present Subject.

I desire a Debian approved list for perfectly compatible
Wireless-Bluetooth Cards. Like the PCI list, with the heading:
DeviceDatabase/PCI - Debian Wiki
at
https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI

Why do I need to return to this thread? Because, unlike what Mr. Cater
advised, in his post:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00679.html

the "firmware-b43-installer" isn't suitable for the card that my laptop has:

"Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142

802.11b/g/n (rev 01)" card,

as the webpage https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43#contact
for the "firmware-b43-installer" mentions. The relevant portions of
the said webpage may please be perused. On the webpage the list with
the following columns has the following entries for the said chipset:
PCI-ID Supported? Chip ID Modes PHY version Alternative
14e4:4365 no BCM43142 b/g/n LCN40 (r3) wl

That is, the said card of my laptop isn't supported by the
"firmware-b43-installer". I have already posted a reply to Mr. Cater
with the said information at:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00846.html

I am still hoping, despite what Mr.Purgert suggests in his post:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00654.html, that I
will be able to find a Debian-approved wireless networking card and
that my HP laptop BIOS would allow it to be used instead of the native
wireless card.

If every effort fails, I will try to procure a Frame.work customisable
laptop for my use.

Best wishes,
Rajib,
Etc.

Andrew M.A. Cater

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Oct 28, 2023, 9:30:06 AM10/28/23

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On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 05:22:18PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote:
> My dear Illustrious Leaders and Senior Members of the debian-user Mailing List,
>
> I would again return to my earlier post at:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00650.html
>
> That is, the First Mail of this thread with the present Subject.
>

Hello Rajib,

Please can you reduce the size of your subject line. You can make it
much shorter and still informative.

> I desire a Debian approved list for perfectly compatible
> Wireless-Bluetooth Cards. Like the PCI list, with the heading:
> DeviceDatabase/PCI - Debian Wiki
> at
> https://wiki.debian.org/DeviceDatabase/PCI
>

There is no definitive list for "perfectly compatible" cards, unfortunately.
There is a list of cards that people have found to work but, as noted, HP
maintain an allowlist/denylist of cards that *they* approve.

> Why do I need to return to this thread? Because, unlike what Mr. Cater
> advised, in his post:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00679.html
>
> the "firmware-b43-installer" isn't suitable for the card that my laptop has:
>
> "Network controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142
> 802.11b/g/n (rev 01)" card,
>
> as the webpage https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/drivers/b43#contact
> for the "firmware-b43-installer" mentions. The relevant portions of
> the said webpage may please be perused. On the webpage the list with
> the following columns has the following entries for the said chipset:
> PCI-ID Supported? Chip ID Modes PHY version Alternative
> 14e4:4365 no BCM43142 b/g/n LCN40 (r3) wl
>
> That is, the said card of my laptop isn't supported by the
> "firmware-b43-installer". I have already posted a reply to Mr. Cater
> with the said information at:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00846.html
>

Thanks for this. Again, a request - please *don't* address replies
primarily to individuals - please address them to the list because
the list will archive the relevant information.

> I am still hoping, despite what Mr.Purgert suggests in his post:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00654.html, that I
> will be able to find a Debian-approved wireless networking card and
> that my HP laptop BIOS would allow it to be used instead of the native
> wireless card.
>

Note that you have been given the solution using module-assistant by
someone else on the list.

> If every effort fails, I will try to procure a Frame.work customisable
> laptop for my use.
>

That will be a very expensive workaround and you may face delays: I think
they have a backlog on orders. You may find also that people have had
varying experiences with their Framework - there's a very long post on
Debian Planet somewhere with a whole list of plusses and minuses.

All the very best, as ever,

Andy
> Best wishes,
> Rajib,
> Etc.
>

Marco M.

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Am 28.10.2023 um 17:22:18 Uhr schrieb Susmita/Rajib:

> I am still hoping, despite what Mr.Purgert suggests in his post:
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00654.html, that I
> will be able to find a Debian-approved wireless networking card and
> that my HP laptop BIOS would allow it to be used instead of the native
> wireless card.

My experience with HP laptops (and most other laptops due to FCC
reasons) is that only the devices sold with that model (some models
support different modules, e.g. to have more expensive Intel for vPro
logo and cheaper Broadcoms).

My guess it to look at the HP website to see which NICs were shipped
with your laptop, then check how they are supported.

If none is good for you, you may think about Expresscard or USB
solutions.

Timothy M Butterworth

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On Sat, Oct 28, 2023 at 2:44 PM Susmita/Rajib <bkpsu...@gmail.com> wrote:

My dear Illustrious Leaders and Senior Members of the debian-user Mailing List,

I would again return to my earlier post at:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2023/10/msg00650.html

That is, the First Mail of this thread with the present Subject.

I desire a Debian approved list for perfectly compatible
Wireless-Bluetooth Cards.

The FSF only has one WiFi adapater approved as free software. It is a wireless N model.

https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/penguin-wireless-n-usb-adapter-gnu-linux-tpe-n150usb

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I thank Mr. Butterworth for his kind information on the wireless N
model network card.
This gives me an opportunity to suggest to the Debian Universe to have
similar such internal add-ons and a comprehensive list of internal
add-ons be made available to us users, be bought from the open market,
rather than the list of only tested laptops at
https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn#OfficialDocumentation and
some external accessories, such as printers, scanners, etc.
A fair amount of discussion is on the thread:
https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2021/04/msg00504.html
The economic model is sure to survive competition given the sheer
number of FSF, GNU/Linux users, including the Debian, Arch, Manjaro,
Ubuntu, et al, users all over the world.
I have sent an email to ThinkPenguin for the wireless N model model
using their Contact webpage.
Best wishes,
Rajib
Etc.

Susmita/Rajib

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I have had a conversation with the Team ThinkPenguin for the wireless
N model model. Their USB WiFi dongle is only for WiFi connectivity.
Not for Bluetooth.

The team has been very transparent with sharing information, and I
thank you for letting me know about such an empowering team surviving
within the proprietary universe.

Since the wl module already has configured and restored the WiFi
connectivity for my laptop, I wouldn't require the said dongle.

Shortly, I will post for configuring the Bluetooth connectivity for my
HP laptop.

So your support is all the more expected.

Best wishes,
Rajib

Andrew M.A. Cater

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On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 03:24:00PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote:

Rajib,

Please note the change of subject.

> I have had a conversation with the Team ThinkPenguin for the wireless
> N model model. Their USB WiFi dongle is only for WiFi connectivity.
> Not for Bluetooth.
>
> The team has been very transparent with sharing information, and I
> thank you for letting me know about such an empowering team surviving
> within the proprietary universe.
>

The WiFi and Bluetooth connectivity for your laptop is almost certainly
all provided by the Broadcom chipset and the firmware it requires.

If not, it may be provided by the main laptop chipset - so maybe Intel?

You have been given (off list) a method for configuring kernel modules and
using DKMS to provide support when each kernel is updated.

You may need to download a firmware "blob" and place that in /lib/firmware

The method you've been given is by using module-assistant to automate
the process of building the kernel modules

> Since the wl module already has configured and restored the WiFi
> connectivity for my laptop, I wouldn't require the said dongle.
>
> Shortly, I will post for configuring the Bluetooth connectivity for my
> HP laptop.
>

So - you already have some of that in place: https://wiki.debian.org/wl

As root, you can run the command dmesg to see what the kernel finds at boot.
It produces a lot of output, so you can use grep to filter that.

What does the output of:

dmesg | grep Bluetooth | less

produce for you - some of that should give you a clue as to what firmware
is found or is missing.

> So your support is all the more expected.
>
> Best wishes,
> Rajib
>

With best wishes, as always

Andy Cater

[amac...@debian.org]

Susmita/Rajib

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Dear Mr. Cater, Thank you for your post, re-forming the subject-line
and your query.

Since this part is over, please let this subject thread remain closed.
I won't post any further messages ion it. It would be a different
matter if someone posts on the thread and I am obliged to reply to
that query.

Please note that the reply your query on the post with the renamed subject:
Broadcom WiFi/Bluetooth BCM43142 issues

Will be posted on the subject thread:
Please help configure to activate Bluetooth networking for "Network

controller: Broadcom Inc. and subsidiaries BCM43142 802.11b/g/n (rev
01)" card

In fact, I posted my last message without reading yours. Good
coincidence, I have partly replied to your query on output on that
last message.

I request you not to rename the subject of the thread, as the
continuity of the thread shall be lost and I might not be able to
trace the thread in future.

Best wishes,
Rajib
Etc.

Andy Smith

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Hello,

On Sun, Oct 29, 2023 at 07:04:35PM +0530, Susmita/Rajib wrote:
> Dear Mr. Cater, Thank you for your post, re-forming the subject-line
> and your query.

Why are you reforming Andrew's subject line? It seemed like a very
sensible subject line.

> I request you not to rename the subject of the thread, as the
> continuity of the thread shall be lost and I might not be able to
> trace the thread in future.

But your subject lines are too long. Can you find even one person
besides yourself who thinks that your practice of putting an entire
paragraph into a subject line is a sensible email practice compared
to the subject that Andrew Cater used, and you rejected?

I request that you stop using such lengthy subject lines as they
make it hard to quickly determine what any of your emails are
actually about - the primary purpose of the subject header.

Additionally, I would suggest that if your email software can't cope
with the proper threading of emails when their subject line is
changed, that you should pick better software for the purpose of
reading email. There is no shortage of options that can accomplish
the basic task of presenting threads of conversation.

Thanks,
Andy

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