Re: Collaborate Debian Reference in Traditional Chinese

[楊志璿]

Dear all,

May I ask who should I communicate with and  pull request these issues?

This is Chih-Hsuan Yang(楊志璿), a Taiwanese developer, using traditional Chinese as native language.

I found some unsuitable translations from simplified Chinese to traditional Chinese (or English to traditional Chinese).

Thank you!

Best regards,

Chih-Hsuan Yang

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On Saturday, September 11th, 2021 at 5:15 PM, 楊志璿 <zxc25...@protonmail.com> wrote:

Hi Osamu Aoki,

This is Chih-Hsuan Yang(楊志璿), a Taiwanese developer, using traditional Chinese as native language.

I found some unsuitable translations from simplified Chinese to traditional Chinese (or English to traditional Chinese).

For example:

"1.2. 開發時需要的軟件" should be "1.2. 開發時需要的軟體". 

"A: 高級打包" should be "A: 進階打包"

May I help you to translate the Debian reference?

Thank you!

Best regards,

Chih-Hsuan Yang

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[Kan-Ru Chen]

Hi Chih-Hsuan,

I believe the best way to contribute to the Debian Reference is to make a merge request on Salsa or submit patches to BTS.

The source files are here https://salsa.debian.org/debian/debian-reference and you can find the translation files under the po/ directory, for example po/zh-tw.po.

You can share your merge request on this list, then I or other DDs can help you merge them.

Cheers,

Kanru

[楊志璿]

Dear all,

Thank you all, this is the first time Debian salsa accept my account!

Thanks.

Best,

SCC  

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On Wednesday, November 24th, 2021 at 9:42 PM, xiao sheng wen <atzl...@sina.com> wrote:

Hi,

    Welcome to use weblate[1] to translate.

Many languages had use weblate to translate, It's a good translate platform.

I'll do sync from weblate to Salsa in time.

[1]https://hosted.weblate.org/projects/debian-reference/translations/zh_Hant/

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[楊志璿]

Dear all,

I translate the chapter 1 in to traditional Chinese.

And give the debian-reference a pull request.

Feel free to review it.

Thanks.

Cheers,

Chih-Hsuan Yang 

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[Osamu Aoki]

楊志璿　先生

Thank you for your effort to update POs.

I understand automatic conversion between zh_TW and zh_CN doesn't produce the ideal
translation text but I assessed it to be a better alternative than showing the
English original text.

So only when PO data is missing, debian-reference build script uses opencc generated
automatic conversion text for building files to be published without touching
original PO files. So please add appropriate translation to the PO file than things
will be fine.

If you find some consistent conversion problem with opencc, it may be a good idea to
report issues to the upstream with examples.

https://github.com/BYVoid/OpenCC

謝謝

青木　修

PS: I don't know how protomail works but I can read your mail without your GPG public
key while your mail is marked as encrypted via my GNOME GUI mail client Evolution. I
am a bit confused. Since this is archived to the mailing list archive, I am sending
this as non-encrypted plain TEXT mail.

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

I just uploaded after merging 楊志璿先生's translation PO as

debian-reference (2.89) unstable; urgency=medium

* Update en: ripgrep, GUI filer action scripts.
* Update zh-cn, id, zh-tw translation.
* Source-only upload.

-- Osamu Aoki <os...@debian.org> Sun, 28 Nov 2021 16:52:48 +0900

See change history at:
https://salsa.debian.org/debian/debian-reference
> > >

[楊志璿]

Hi all,

I merge the branch 'latest' of https://salsa.debian.org/debian/debian-reference into SCC.

Please see the PR(https://salsa.debian.org/debian/debian-reference/-/merge_requests/9).

Thanks.

Best,
SCC


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On Sunday, November 28th, 2021 at 4:11 PM, Osamu Aoki <os...@debian.org> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I just uploaded after merging 楊志璿先生's translation PO as
>
> debian-reference (2.89) unstable; urgency=medium
>

> - Update en: ripgrep, GUI filer action scripts.
> - Update zh-cn, id, zh-tw translation.
> - Source-only upload.

[楊志璿]

Dear Osamu Aoki,

I think I should also mention there are many different usages of traditional and simplified Chinese, but cannot be found in the OpenCC.
For example:

The Row and Column
in traditional Chinese is '列' and '行'
in simplified Chinese is '行' and '列'
And the **command line** should be translated from "命令行" to "指令列" in translating from simplified to traditional.

Yes, that is exactly different in these two languages. It is not one-to-one and onto translation, it is different in some sematics.

There is another example:
The **free software** is not only "free" but also "freedom"[1].
Therefore we should translate the **free** into 自由且免費.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software

Best,
SCC

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[Osamu Aoki]

楊先生,

I don't speak or read Chinese in any significant way. But I know openCC is more than
a simple character style conversion program. Conversion like "命令行" to "指令列" is well
within its scope. Anyway, please take such information to openCC upstream. If I
understand correctly, he lives in Europe and he is more familiar with zh-cn style
vocabulary. So your input may be quite useful.

Hi Xiao,
As for the recent merge commit from weblate, I have dropped unused old translation
strings. But recent weblate merge seems to revert this. Does this merge take care
all recent PR?

Regards,

Osamu

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi Yang,

I think your change to genxml is wrong so I reverted.

Please see --use-first is used later to drop autogenerated msgstr if you already have
PO for the same msgid.

[楊志璿]

Hi Osamu Aoki,

Got it. Thanks.

Best,
SCC

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