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Paul Talacko

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Oct 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/3/00
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Hello all,

I'm new here and new to Debian - I like the package manager. Anyway, I
need some help with an X problem.

I've installed potato on a Mac 6500 with 96 Mmegs of Ram, booting from
BootX (OF keeps freezing) using the precompiled kernel from the potato CD.

I went and got Xpmac. It works! Well sort of. My mouse freezes in X,
but it works fine in gpm. There is an older thread somewhere here saying
that new kernels don't support adb mice. How come it works in gpm then? I
don't know where to begin to look for a fix for this - there is not a lot
of documentation on Xpmac.

I have /dev/mouse pointing to /dev/adbmouse, btw.

I've also checked out Ben H's page on kernels, and there is something
there about adb mice not working without some work around. However, I
don't think this is my problem because my mouse works in gpm

Thanks

Paul

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Tom Rini

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On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 08:27:58PM +0100, Paul Talacko wrote:

> I went and got Xpmac. It works! Well sort of. My mouse freezes in X,
> but it works fine in gpm. There is an older thread somewhere here saying
> that new kernels don't support adb mice. How come it works in gpm then? I
> don't know where to begin to look for a fix for this - there is not a lot
> of documentation on Xpmac.

Turn off gpm (/etc/init.d/gpm stop) and try X again. X can't use the mouse
'cuz gpm is using it. x86 (and ppc, using FBDev) get around this by using
/dev/gpmdata for a mouse device. However Xpmac tries to use the device
directly. I think anyways. :)

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Wilhelm Fitzpatrick

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Oct 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/3/00
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> I went and got Xpmac. It works! Well sort of. My mouse freezes in X,
> but it works fine in gpm. There is an older thread somewhere here saying
> that new kernels don't support adb mice. How come it works in gpm then? I
> don't know where to begin to look for a fix for this - there is not a lot
> of documentation on Xpmac.

It's not that the mouse is not support, its that the way that the kernel
uses to talk to other programs to tell them what the mouse is doing has
changed, and gpm understands the new way but Xpmac doesn't.

Apparently there is a kernel option you can turn on when compiling that
preserves Xpmac compatibility.

For myself, I'm sticking with an older kernel for now, to avoid hassle.

> I've also checked out Ben H's page on kernels, and there is something
> there about adb mice not working without some work around. However, I
> don't think this is my problem because my mouse works in gpm

No, they do work in GPM, just not in X.

Carlos

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Oct 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/3/00
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A related issue: how do you set different modes for Xpmac? I modified
/etc/XF86Config to include 1152x864 and 1152x900 and Xpmac always comes up
at 1024x768... How do you change this?

Carlos
ps - please neglect e-mail in header, use carl...@excite.com

In article <Pine.LNX.4.21.00100...@yarn.demon.co.uk>,


Paul Talacko <tal...@yarn.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>Hello all,
>
>I'm new here and new to Debian - I like the package manager. Anyway, I
>need some help with an X problem.
>
>I've installed potato on a Mac 6500 with 96 Mmegs of Ram, booting from
>BootX (OF keeps freezing) using the precompiled kernel from the potato CD.
>

>I went and got Xpmac. It works! Well sort of. My mouse freezes in X,
>but it works fine in gpm. There is an older thread somewhere here saying
>that new kernels don't support adb mice. How come it works in gpm then? I
>don't know where to begin to look for a fix for this - there is not a lot
>of documentation on Xpmac.
>

>I have /dev/mouse pointing to /dev/adbmouse, btw.
>

>I've also checked out Ben H's page on kernels, and there is something
>there about adb mice not working without some work around. However, I
>don't think this is my problem because my mouse works in gpm
>

>Thanks
>
>Paul
>
> -------------
>
>Paul Talacko
>http://www.seditiousdiaries.com/
>
>

Paul Talacko

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Oct 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/4/00
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Fixed it!! I'm very happy.

I tried turning off gpm, but it was just the same. The trick was to
recompile the kernel. There is an option which is:

CONFIG_FB_COMPAT_XPMAC

make sure this is set to Y. Then patch the kernel with the patch on the
potato CD originating from Ben H. (I tried compiling without it and it
doesn't work).

Hmmm, now, I've got to configure my window manager....

On Tue, 3 Oct 2000, Wilhelm Fitzpatrick wrote:

> > I went and got Xpmac. It works! Well sort of. My mouse freezes in X,
> > but it works fine in gpm. There is an older thread somewhere here saying
> > that new kernels don't support adb mice. How come it works in gpm then? I
> > don't know where to begin to look for a fix for this - there is not a lot
> > of documentation on Xpmac.
>

> It's not that the mouse is not support, its that the way that the kernel
> uses to talk to other programs to tell them what the mouse is doing has
> changed, and gpm understands the new way but Xpmac doesn't.
>
> Apparently there is a kernel option you can turn on when compiling that
> preserves Xpmac compatibility.
>
> For myself, I'm sticking with an older kernel for now, to avoid hassle.
>

> > I've also checked out Ben H's page on kernels, and there is something
> > there about adb mice not working without some work around. However, I
> > don't think this is my problem because my mouse works in gpm
>

> No, they do work in GPM, just not in X.
>
>

Robert Ramiega

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Oct 4, 2000, 3:00:00 AM10/4/00
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On Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 08:27:58PM +0100, Paul Talacko wrote:
>
> I went and got Xpmac. It works! Well sort of. My mouse freezes in X,
> but it works fine in gpm. There is an older thread somewhere here saying
> that new kernels don't support adb mice. How come it works in gpm then? I
> don't know where to begin to look for a fix for this - there is not a lot
> of documentation on Xpmac.
>
> I have /dev/mouse pointing to /dev/adbmouse, btw.
I don't know if that helps (i don't have powermac) but on Intel boxes it
helps when You
make /dev/mouse point to /dev/gpm-data
or
put /dev/gpm-data in place of /dev/mouse in Xpmac config
In both cases You might need to fiddle with mouse protocol settings

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