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Mike Hosken
Jul 29, 2023, 1:10:05 AM7/29/23
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Hi everyone,
I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and have run into some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t boot. I get to grub and choose install, it starts to boot and then the system reboots. Choosing expert mode causes the same issue. Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier install cd and managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be kernel parameters.
I’m using keyboard and monitor to install not the serial console.
Any help would be appreciated to get this system up and running.
Mike Hosken
linux.purple-cat.net
I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and have run into some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t boot. I get to grub and choose install, it starts to boot and then the system reboots. Choosing expert mode causes the same issue. Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier install cd and managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be kernel parameters.
I’m using keyboard and monitor to install not the serial console.
Any help would be appreciated to get this system up and running.
Mike Hosken
linux.purple-cat.net
Frank Scheiner
Jul 29, 2023, 2:22:08 AM7/29/23
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Hi Mike,
On 29.07.23 06:40, Mike Hosken wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and
> have run into some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t
> boot. I get to grub and choose install, it starts to boot and then
> the system reboots. Choosing expert mode causes the same issue.
> Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier install cd and
> managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks
> trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be
> kernel parameters.
I have always blacklisted the "radeon" module for my rx2660s:
```
modprobe.blacklist=radeon
```
...but that could require to use it over iLO MP exclusively, which is
not too bad or too hard to do (via both telnet and serial). IIRC you
should get the default configuration by pushing the button at the rear
for a longer time (see e.g. [1] for details about its functionality) and
then login over serial (9600 bps, 8n1) with "Admin:Admin". After
configuring telnet access (or maybe it is configured per default already
and uses DHCP) you can control it via the iLO MP network port, too.
E.g. to power on the machine enter command menu (or mode?) via "cm",
then enter `ps -on -nc`. Hit "Ctrl+B" to return to the main menu and
enter "co" to get to the system console. "Ctrl+B" also returns from the
system console, if you need to issue a hard reset (in command menu enter
`rs -nc`) for example.
My first rx2660 also still has:
```
hardened_usercopy=off
```
...in its kernel commandline, but I believe this is no longer necessary
as it is deactivated in the Debian version of the Linux kernel for ia64 IIC.
HTH.
Cheers,
Frank
On 29.07.23 06:40, Mike Hosken wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and
> have run into some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t
> boot. I get to grub and choose install, it starts to boot and then
> the system reboots. Choosing expert mode causes the same issue.
> Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier install cd and
> managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks
> trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be
> kernel parameters.
```
modprobe.blacklist=radeon
```
...but that could require to use it over iLO MP exclusively, which is
not too bad or too hard to do (via both telnet and serial). IIRC you
should get the default configuration by pushing the button at the rear
for a longer time (see e.g. [1] for details about its functionality) and
then login over serial (9600 bps, 8n1) with "Admin:Admin". After
configuring telnet access (or maybe it is configured per default already
and uses DHCP) you can control it via the iLO MP network port, too.
E.g. to power on the machine enter command menu (or mode?) via "cm",
then enter `ps -on -nc`. Hit "Ctrl+B" to return to the main menu and
enter "co" to get to the system console. "Ctrl+B" also returns from the
system console, if you need to issue a hard reset (in command menu enter
`rs -nc`) for example.
My first rx2660 also still has:
```
hardened_usercopy=off
```
...in its kernel commandline, but I believe this is no longer necessary
as it is deactivated in the Debian version of the Linux kernel for ia64 IIC.
HTH.
Cheers,
Frank
John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
Jul 29, 2023, 3:50:04 AM7/29/23
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Hello Mike!
On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 16:40 +1200, Mike Hosken wrote:
> I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and have run into
> some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t boot. I get to grub and
> choose install, it starts to boot and then the system reboots. Choosing expert
> mode causes the same issue. Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier
> install cd and managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks
> trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be kernel parameters.
Please provide us with links to the exact image that you tested. Some architectures are
broken on certain images and "latest" is ambiguous in this context as some users refer
to the snapshot folder while others point to the release version folders (although, there
aren't releases in Debian Ports!).
Also, boot the kernel in verbose mode (remove "quiet" from the GRUB command line) and
post the kernel error message on the mailing list.
Adrian
--
.''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
: :' : Debian Developer
`. `' Physicist
`- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
On Sat, 2023-07-29 at 16:40 +1200, Mike Hosken wrote:
> I have a rx2660 ia64 machine, I’m wanting to install Debian on and have run into
> some issues. The Debian 12 ia64 installation disk won’t boot. I get to grub and
> choose install, it starts to boot and then the system reboots. Choosing expert
> mode causes the same issue. Thinking it might be hardware I tried the earlier
> install cd and managed to install successfully but unfortunately the system breaks
> trying to update to the latest Sid version. I’m thinking it might be kernel parameters.
broken on certain images and "latest" is ambiguous in this context as some users refer
to the snapshot folder while others point to the release version folders (although, there
aren't releases in Debian Ports!).
Also, boot the kernel in verbose mode (remove "quiet" from the GRUB command line) and
post the kernel error message on the mailing list.
Adrian
--
.''`. John Paul Adrian Glaubitz
: :' : Debian Developer
`. `' Physicist
`- GPG: 62FF 8A75 84E0 2956 9546 0006 7426 3B37 F5B5 F913
Mike Hosken
Jul 29, 2023, 4:20:04 AM7/29/23
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Hi Frank, Adrian and anyone else,
I've tried everything you suggested and had no luck unfortunately.
I removed the quiet from the boot options with your suggested changes and got this output. Not being a kernel person but with google I managed to find that Adrian has come across this exact issue and with this kernel.
I therefore suspect that the issue is with the install cd. I did notice an updated debian-installer with a later kernel available on the ports cd image site. Is this issue fixed with kernel-image-6.3.0-1-itanium-di 6.3.7-1 ia64 and would it be possible to get an updated iso produced ?
[ 0.000000] Linux version 6.1.0-9-itanium (debian...@lists.debian.org) (gcc-12 (Debian 12.2.0-12) 12.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.40) #1 SMP Debian 6.1.27-1 (2023-05-08)
[ 0.000000] efi: EFI v2.00 by HP
[ 0.000000] efi: SALsystab=0x3ee7a000 ACPI 2.0=0x3fde6000 ESI=0x3ee7b000 SMBIOS=0x3ee7c000 HCDP=0x3fde4000
[ 12.165278] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs...
[ 12.169274] Entered OS MCA handler. PSP=20010000fff21320 cpu=0 monarch=1
[ 12.169274] 6All OS MCA slaves have reached rendezvous
[ 12.169274] mlogbuf_finish: printing switched to urgent mode, MCA/INIT might be dodgy or fail.
[ 12.169274] Delaying for 5 seconds...
Thanks
Mike Hosken
I've tried everything you suggested and had no luck unfortunately.
I removed the quiet from the boot options with your suggested changes and got this output. Not being a kernel person but with google I managed to find that Adrian has come across this exact issue and with this kernel.
I therefore suspect that the issue is with the install cd. I did notice an updated debian-installer with a later kernel available on the ports cd image site. Is this issue fixed with kernel-image-6.3.0-1-itanium-di 6.3.7-1 ia64 and would it be possible to get an updated iso produced ?
[ 0.000000] Linux version 6.1.0-9-itanium (debian...@lists.debian.org) (gcc-12 (Debian 12.2.0-12) 12.2.0, GNU ld (GNU Binutils for Debian) 2.40) #1 SMP Debian 6.1.27-1 (2023-05-08)
[ 0.000000] efi: EFI v2.00 by HP
[ 0.000000] efi: SALsystab=0x3ee7a000 ACPI 2.0=0x3fde6000 ESI=0x3ee7b000 SMBIOS=0x3ee7c000 HCDP=0x3fde4000
[ 12.165278] Trying to unpack rootfs image as initramfs...
[ 12.169274] Entered OS MCA handler. PSP=20010000fff21320 cpu=0 monarch=1
[ 12.169274] 6All OS MCA slaves have reached rendezvous
[ 12.169274] mlogbuf_finish: printing switched to urgent mode, MCA/INIT might be dodgy or fail.
[ 12.169274] Delaying for 5 seconds...
Thanks
Mike Hosken
Mike Hosken
Jul 29, 2023, 4:40:03 AM7/29/23
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Hi Adrian,
It Was this one.
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/12.0/ia64/debian-12.0.0-ia64-NETINST-1.iso
Mike
It Was this one.
https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/ports/12.0/ia64/debian-12.0.0-ia64-NETINST-1.iso
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [mailto:glau...@physik.fu-berlin.de]
Sent: Saturday, 29 July 2023 7:42 pm
To: Mike Hosken
Cc: debia...@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Install problem
From: John Paul Adrian Glaubitz [mailto:glau...@physik.fu-berlin.de]
Sent: Saturday, 29 July 2023 7:42 pm
To: Mike Hosken
Cc: debia...@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Install problem
Frank Scheiner
Jul 29, 2023, 4:40:04 PM7/29/23
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Hi Mike,
On 29.07.23 10:01, Mike Hosken wrote:
> Hi Frank, Adrian and anyone else,
>
> I've tried everything you suggested and had no luck unfortunately.
>
> I removed the quiet from the boot options with your suggested changes
> and got this output. Not being a kernel person but with google I
> managed to find that Adrian has come across this exact issue and with
> this kernel.
>
> I therefore suspect that the issue is with the install cd. I did
> notice an updated debian-installer with a later kernel available on
> the ports cd image site. Is this issue fixed with
> kernel-image-6.3.0-1-itanium-di 6.3.7-1 ia64
It is fixed with 6.3.0-0 (6.3.2 to be exact, see [this thread] for details).
[this thread]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ia64/2023/05/msg00010.html
> and would it be possible
> to get an updated iso produced ?
Just to be sure:
You managed to get a working installation with an older than the latest
installer ISO?
Would it then be possible to start anew and than just install a newer
kernel image from snapshot.debian.org before actually upgrading the
remaining OS, e.g. this one:
https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-ports/20230703T174302Z/pool-ia64/main/l/linux/linux-image-6.3.0-2-mckinley_6.3.11-1_ia64.deb
...or maybe even this one:
https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-ports/20230703T174302Z/pool-ia64/main/l/linux/linux-image-6.4.0-0-mckinley_6.4.1-1~exp1_ia64.deb
Cheers,
Frank
On 29.07.23 10:01, Mike Hosken wrote:
> Hi Frank, Adrian and anyone else,
>
> I've tried everything you suggested and had no luck unfortunately.
>
> I removed the quiet from the boot options with your suggested changes
> and got this output. Not being a kernel person but with google I
> managed to find that Adrian has come across this exact issue and with
> this kernel.
>
> I therefore suspect that the issue is with the install cd. I did
> notice an updated debian-installer with a later kernel available on
> the ports cd image site. Is this issue fixed with
> kernel-image-6.3.0-1-itanium-di 6.3.7-1 ia64
[this thread]: https://lists.debian.org/debian-ia64/2023/05/msg00010.html
> and would it be possible
> to get an updated iso produced ?
You managed to get a working installation with an older than the latest
installer ISO?
Would it then be possible to start anew and than just install a newer
kernel image from snapshot.debian.org before actually upgrading the
remaining OS, e.g. this one:
https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-ports/20230703T174302Z/pool-ia64/main/l/linux/linux-image-6.3.0-2-mckinley_6.3.11-1_ia64.deb
...or maybe even this one:
https://snapshot.debian.org/archive/debian-ports/20230703T174302Z/pool-ia64/main/l/linux/linux-image-6.4.0-0-mckinley_6.4.1-1~exp1_ia64.deb
Cheers,
Frank
Frank Scheiner
Jul 29, 2023, 4:40:04 PM7/29/23
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Hi again,
just some other thing that came to my mind right now:
Don't leave your rx2660 in standby with mains connected over longer
times, because its PSUs will get quite hot otherwise and most likely age
faster than normal if not burn up over time. The DL380 G5 and DL385 G2
and G5 (at least mine, upgraded from a G2) all seem to have the same
problem.
[1] states it is a design flaw. [2] mentions that there are newer PSU
revisions that might be OK in standby, so maybe you're lucky and have
one of those in yours already.
Cheers,
Frank
[1]:
https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/hp-proliant-dl380-g5-server-is-the-power-supply-really-broken/td-p/7001911
[2]:
https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/dl380-g5-power-supplies-overheat-when-plugged-in-but-off/td-p/3982566/page/3
just some other thing that came to my mind right now:
Don't leave your rx2660 in standby with mains connected over longer
times, because its PSUs will get quite hot otherwise and most likely age
faster than normal if not burn up over time. The DL380 G5 and DL385 G2
and G5 (at least mine, upgraded from a G2) all seem to have the same
problem.
[1] states it is a design flaw. [2] mentions that there are newer PSU
revisions that might be OK in standby, so maybe you're lucky and have
one of those in yours already.
Cheers,
Frank
[1]:
https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/hp-proliant-dl380-g5-server-is-the-power-supply-really-broken/td-p/7001911
[2]:
https://community.hpe.com/t5/proliant-servers-ml-dl-sl/dl380-g5-power-supplies-overheat-when-plugged-in-but-off/td-p/3982566/page/3
Frank Scheiner
Aug 1, 2023, 5:51:50 AM8/1/23
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On 01.08.23 08:41, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote:
> [...]
> Oh dear… did I just jinx it?!
>
>
> 68 BMC *3 0x2064C614CB020520 0000016F41080300
> POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT
> 30 Jul 2023 07:44:11
> 67 BMC *3 0x2064C614CB020510 0000016F40080300
> POWER_SUPPLY_FAIL_OR_DISCONNECT
> 30 Jul 2023 07:44:11
Hopefully not. What did you do (prior to that)?
Cheers,
Frank
Frank Scheiner
Aug 11, 2023, 10:00:05 AM8/11/23
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On 07.08.23 00:39, Pedro Miguel Justo wrote:
> [...]
> I physically ejected the faulty PSU and the machine has been up for many
> [...]
> days now.
Well, now one PSU in my first rx2660 is playing dead, too. But the
system doesn't yet refuse to start. I removed it anyhow and replaced it
with one PSU from my DL385 G5 - same part number and OEM model for PSU.
Hence I assume you can put DL385 G5 (and also G2) PSUs on your watch
list, too. Though from checking on Ebay, it might be cheaper to just buy
a whole system (DL380 G5, DL385 G2/G5) with two PSUs instead of just the
PSU(s).
The problem is: you can't put your nose on the PSUs prior to buying them
to sniff if they're "toasty" or "fresh" (which is true for both options,
though).
Cheers,
Frank
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