Proposed mass bug filing: packages without support for build-arch and build-indep

[Lucas Nussbaum]

Hi,

I'd like to propose a MBF with severity:serious for the above issue.
build-arch and build-indep are required targets according to Debian
Policy section 4.9. This rule was introduced in Policy version 3.9.4,
released in 2012.
https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#main-building-script-debian-rules

There are 421 affected packages in unstable (389 in testing as of
2021-10-01).
The list of affected packages according to lintian is
https://lintian.debian.org/tags/debian-rules-missing-recommended-target
A dd-list is included below.

Unfortunately this is only a warning in lintian, which might explain
why so many packages are still affected.

I have no strong feelings about this requirement, but I see it as a good
opportunity to identify packages whose packaging probably need a
refresh. Therefore it is a good target, especially at the beginning of a
release cycle, to either update old cruft or get it removed from the
next stable release.

This topic was raised back in April on debian-qa@, and saw no
objection back then. See
https://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2021/04/msg00014.html (the thread
included other topics).

The bug template I plan to use is included below.

I would prefer to file bugs directly with severity:serious, but I'm fine
with starting with severity:important and bumping severity after a month
or two if the release team prefers it, of course.

- Lucas


============== bug template ============

Subject: x: missing required debian/rules targets build-arch and/or build-indep

Source: x
Version: x
Severity: serious
Justification: Debian Policy section 4.9
User: debi...@lists.debian.org
Usertags: missing-build-arch-indep

Dear maintainer,

Your package does not include build-arch and build-indep targets in
debian/rules. This is required by Debian Policy section 4.9, since 2012.
https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#main-building-script-debian-rules

Please note that this is also a sign that the packaging of this software
could benefit from a refresh. For example, packages using 'dh' cannot be
affected by this issue.

This mass bug filing was discussed on debian-devel@ in [url]

Best,

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"Steinar H. Gunderson" <se...@debian.org>
amoeba-data

A Mennucc1 <menn...@debian.org>
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printfilters-ppd

Adam Majer <ad...@zombino.com>
lpr
sc

Adam Sloboda <j...@disorder.sk>
gkrellm-thinkbat
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Adi Zaimi <adiz...@users.sourceforge.net>
gkrelltop

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gkrellmoon

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myspell-fa (U)
myspell-hy

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squidtaild

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dircproxy
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Alexander Gordeev <las...@lvk.cs.msu.su>
madwimax

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libmail-verify-perl
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midish

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[Emilio Pozuelo Monfort]

Hi Lucas,

On 05/11/2021 21:22, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to propose a MBF with severity:serious for the above issue.
> build-arch and build-indep are required targets according to Debian
> Policy section 4.9. This rule was introduced in Policy version 3.9.4,
> released in 2012.
> https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-source.html#main-building-script-debian-rules
>
> There are 421 affected packages in unstable (389 in testing as of
> 2021-10-01).
> The list of affected packages according to lintian is
> https://lintian.debian.org/tags/debian-rules-missing-recommended-target
> A dd-list is included below.

Thanks for looking at this.

> Unfortunately this is only a warning in lintian, which might explain
> why so many packages are still affected.

lintian should move those targets to the debian-rules-missing-required-target tag.

> I have no strong feelings about this requirement, but I see it as a good
> opportunity to identify packages whose packaging probably need a
> refresh. Therefore it is a good target, especially at the beginning of a
> release cycle, to either update old cruft or get it removed from the
> next stable release.
>
> This topic was raised back in April on debian-qa@, and saw no
> objection back then. See
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2021/04/msg00014.html (the thread
> included other topics).
>
> The bug template I plan to use is included below.
>
> I would prefer to file bugs directly with severity:serious, but I'm fine
> with starting with severity:important and bumping severity after a month
> or two if the release team prefers it, of course.

I think severity serious is fine if you use an appropriate Version so that this
won't block testing migration. I would still prefer if this was filed at
important severity, and raised to serious after a month or so.

Cheers,
Emilio

[Holger Levsen]

On Sat, Nov 06, 2021 at 11:31:25AM +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> I think severity serious is fine if you use an appropriate Version so that
> this won't block testing migration. I would still prefer if this was filed
> at important severity, and raised to serious after a month or so.

given (too) many maintainers (sometimes) react very emotionally to serious
bugs filed against "their" packages and given we're early in the release cycle
and given this effects some hundred packages I think it would be better to
file these bugs with severity "important" and then raise the severity a
month later (and announce this in each filed bug from the start.)

This will achieve the same effect from an archive perspective and is hardly
any different (after 8 years in policy) nor any more work.


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Holger

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[Simon McVittie]

On Sat, 06 Nov 2021 at 11:31:25 +0100, Emilio Pozuelo Monfort wrote:
> On 05/11/2021 21:22, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > build-arch and build-indep are required targets according to Debian
> > Policy section 4.9.

...

> > Unfortunately this is only a warning in lintian, which might explain
> > why so many packages are still affected.
>
> lintian should move those targets to the debian-rules-missing-required-target tag.

That request is #657390 (in cc).

When this was discussed some years ago, Niels Thykier pointed out that
debian-rules-missing-required-target is on the ftp team's list of Lintian
tags that cause automatic rejection[1], so making that change in Lintian
would make it impossible to do a sourceful upload of the affected packages
(for example to fix some unrelated RC issue) without also adding the
required targets.

This does not necessarily mean the Lintian change is a bad idea, it's just
something we should be aware of - expanding the scope of autorejections
should be intentional rather than accidental.

smcv

[1] https://ftp-master.debian.org/static/lintian.tags

[Emilio Pozuelo Monfort]

Ack, in that case let's wait until this mbf is done and some time is given for
the packages to get fixed. After that, I think this should become an error and
autorejection.

Cheers,
Emilio

[Lucas Nussbaum]

Hi,

Bugs have been filed:
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?tag=missing-build-arch-indep;users=debi...@lists.debian.org

https://udd.debian.org/bugs/?release=na&merged=ign&fnewerval=7&flastmodval=7&fusertag=only&fusertagtag=missing-build-arch-indep&fusertaguser=debian-qa%40lists.debian.org&allbugs=1&cpopcon=1&cseverity=1&ckeypackage=1&ctags=1&caffected=1&clastupload=1&sortby=id&sorto=asc&format=html#results

- Lucas

[Felix Lechner]

Hi,

On Fri, Nov 5, 2021 at 1:23 PM Lucas Nussbaum <lu...@debian.org> wrote:
>
> Unfortunately this is only a warning in lintian, which might explain
> why so many packages are still affected.

After a reasonably broad and balanced discussion on
Libera#debian-devel, those targets are now required. [1]

The Archive team still runs an older Lintian version (and may for a
while) so there should be plenty of time for uploads without
auto-rejection.

> in that case let's wait

At the time of writing, 264 sources were still affected [2] which was
down from 421 in November. It worked out more or less to the monthly
decline of 85 sources originally predicted by N. Thykier in 2013. [3]

Lintian's tag description was amended with the simplest possible fix,
which has two-lines. [4] They are reasonable addition to sources that
do not receive a lot of attention.

> file these bugs with severity "important" and then raise the severity a
> month later

The bugs were already serious, and therefore release-critical, when I
found them.

Thank you, everyone, for making the best operating system the world
has ever seen. Let's keep it together!

Kind regards
Felix Lechner

[1] https://salsa.debian.org/lintian/lintian/-/commit/23f836f91c03b78df76743fc002a105403a5bc14
[2] Scroll down,
https://lintian.debian.org/tags/debian-rules-missing-recommended-target
[3] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=657390#45
[4] https://lintian.debian.org/tags/debian-rules-missing-required-target