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Ole J. Tetlie
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| Whenever you start a program running under X11, the windows created
| usually have the little 'X' logo in the upper left hand corner. If
| you are running RedHat linux however, the upper left hand corner of
| the windows contains the RedHat logo (head with a red hat). Why can't
| it (under Debian) have the blue eyed penguin logo?
If I understand you correctly, this is up to each windowmanager.
Some wms can't have a penguin in the corner, but I see no
harm in changing the default for those that can. It should, however
be up to the maintainer of each wm.
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> Whenever you start a program running under X11, the windows created
> usually have the little 'X' logo in the upper left hand corner. If
> you are running RedHat linux however, the upper left hand corner of
> the windows contains the RedHat logo (head with a red hat). Why can't
> it (under Debian) have the blue eyed penguin logo?
Great idea IMO. Can we get that into slink?
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Kenneth Scharf
usually have the little 'X' logo in the upper left hand corner. If
you are running RedHat linux however, the upper left hand corner of
the windows contains the RedHat logo (head with a red hat). Why can't
it (under Debian) have the blue eyed penguin logo?
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Jeff Noxon
> Last time I checked, the license for the logo didn't allow its use in a
> package (which I complained about, so maybe that's not true any more).
> I tried to do this myself, and found that the logo was unrecognizable
> when shrunk down that small. The lines are too thin, and critical
> detail gets lost. RH's logo is actually a lot cleaner and more elegant
> (IMO) than Debian's. I'd vote for a new logo if I thought anyone would
> listen to me.
I'd prefer a new logo as well (with no offense intended toward the kind
person who created the current one!)
But I can't draw, so I guess I should shut up. :-)
How did we arrive at the current logo? My memory stinks.
Regards,
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Branden Robinson
> usually have the little 'X' logo in the upper left hand corner. If
> you are running RedHat linux however, the upper left hand corner of
> the windows contains the RedHat logo (head with a red hat). Why can't
> it (under Debian) have the blue eyed penguin logo?
Just because Red Hat sees the need to urinate all over everything with
their logo doesn't mean we should. Nevertheless, this kind of thing is
easily configurable with the window manager, so if you want to do it for
your own machine(s), there's nothing to stop you.
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Chris Waters
> On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 11:16:27AM -0700, Kenneth Scharf wrote:
> > Whenever you start a program running under X11, the windows created
> > usually have the little 'X' logo in the upper left hand corner. If
> > you are running RedHat linux however, the upper left hand corner of
> > the windows contains the RedHat logo (head with a red hat). Why
> > can't it (under Debian) have the blue eyed penguin logo?
> Great idea IMO. Can we get that into slink?
Last time I checked, the license for the logo didn't allow its use in a
package (which I complained about, so maybe that's not true any more).
I tried to do this myself, and found that the logo was unrecognizable
when shrunk down that small. The lines are too thin, and critical
detail gets lost. RH's logo is actually a lot cleaner and more elegant
(IMO) than Debian's. I'd vote for a new logo if I thought anyone would
listen to me.
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Joseph Carter
> > Whenever you start a program running under X11, the windows created
> > usually have the little 'X' logo in the upper left hand corner. If
> > you are running RedHat linux however, the upper left hand corner of
> > the windows contains the RedHat logo (head with a red hat). Why can't
> > it (under Debian) have the blue eyed penguin logo?
>
> their logo doesn't mean we should. Nevertheless, this kind of thing is
> easily configurable with the window manager, so if you want to do it for
> your own machine(s), there's nothing to stop you.
Most Debian users are like most Redhat users: They won't care if the logo
is there or they'll be proud to have it. If neither of those is the case,
they'll change the damned logo, no problem. =>
Marcus Brinkmann
Hello,
On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 11:59:31PM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> > Ideally, we need a version of the logo that can be reproduced in one
> > or two colors. That way it can go directly on a CD or be printed
> > inexpensively. Full-color printing can be rather expensive.
>
> And it should scale well, from fairly large to quite small. This means
> lines and *simple* curves, and probably solid shapes rather than
> outlines. Red Hat did it right, Debian didn't, quite. (A rare
> exception to the usual rule.:)
Yes, this is important. But thjere also can be a flashy version and a simple
version, for example, the Gnome feet is colorful but can easily be reduced
to b/w.
> In any case, even if we do decide to make a better *logo*, we can keep
> ol' blue-eyes around as the official Debian mascot or something (in case
> people are worried that this is all some plot to get rid of him).
Just a minor nit, I think we shouldn't make the logo at all, we should let
professional artists do it. A gimp contest would be ideal. I was very
impressed by the results of the Gnome logo gimp contest. Most of the entries
were good logos to choose from.
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>
> I'd prefer a new logo as well (with no offense intended toward the kind
> person who created the current one!)
>
> But I can't draw, so I guess I should shut up. :-)
I would prefer a new logo, too. We shouldn't draw it.
We should run a gimp contest. They produced the Gnome logo, and there are
artists as well as designer. They'll come up with a good, inspiring logo,
I'm sure. We should vote the winner.
Someone should write a proposal to be voted on when the constition is in
place. Maybe I'll do it. Please contact me if you want to work with me on
the exact wording.
> How did we arrive at the current logo? My memory stinks.
Bruce made the decision after unfruitful efforts on the logo pages.
Craig Sanders
> On Fri, Oct 09, 1998 at 03:58:58PM -0500, Jeff Noxon wrote:
> >
> > I'd prefer a new logo as well (with no offense intended toward the kind
> > person who created the current one!)
>
> I would prefer a new logo, too. We shouldn't draw it.
> We should run a gimp contest. They produced the Gnome logo, and there are
> artists as well as designer. They'll come up with a good, inspiring logo,
> I'm sure. We should vote the winner.
good idea.
i *really* like the GNU & Penguin one. (see the default index.html on a
new apache install if you don't know what i mean.) something based on
that would be great.
craig
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Jeff Noxon
> I would prefer a new logo, too. We shouldn't draw it.
> We should run a gimp contest. They produced the Gnome logo, and there are
> artists as well as designer. They'll come up with a good, inspiring logo,
> I'm sure. We should vote the winner.
Ideally, we need a version of the logo that can be reproduced in one
or two colors. That way it can go directly on a CD or be printed
inexpensively. Full-color printing can be rather expensive.
> Someone should write a proposal to be voted on when the constition is in
> place. Maybe I'll do it. Please contact me if you want to work with me on
> the exact wording.
>
> > How did we arrive at the current logo? My memory stinks.
>
> Bruce made the decision after unfruitful efforts on the logo pages.
Ah. :-)
Regards,
Jeff
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Chris Waters
> or two colors. That way it can go directly on a CD or be printed
> inexpensively. Full-color printing can be rather expensive.
And it should scale well, from fairly large to quite small. This means
lines and *simple* curves, and probably solid shapes rather than
outlines. Red Hat did it right, Debian didn't, quite. (A rare
exception to the usual rule.:)
In any case, even if we do decide to make a better *logo*, we can keep
ol' blue-eyes around as the official Debian mascot or something (in case
people are worried that this is all some plot to get rid of him).
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