Planning for 12.3

[Jonathan Wiltshire]

Hi,

The next point release for bookworm should be around the end of November
2023. We're about a week behind cadence anyway, but I already know the 28th
November will be unsuitable (Cambridge mini-debconf) and the weekend
following is probably recovery time for a lot of people.

Much after that we get into holidays and well off cadence.

How about:
4th December (better for cadence)
11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

Thanks,

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[Jonathan Wiltshire]

On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> How about:
> 4th December (better for cadence)
> 11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

Erm, astute readers will realise the 4th and 11th are Saturdays in
November, not December. The correct proposals should be:

2nd December (better for candence, no-go for me)
9th December (more likely suitable in practice)

[Andy]

On 7 October 2023 21:59:53 BST, Jonathan Wiltshire <j...@debian.org> wrote:
>On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
>> How about:
>> 4th December (better for cadence)
>> 11th December (more likely suitable in practice)
>
>Erm, astute readers will realise the 4th and 11th are Saturdays in
>November, not December. The correct proposals should be:
>
> 2nd December (better for candence, no-go for me)
> 9th December (more likely suitable in practice)
>
>Thanks,
>

Hi all.

I can do both weekends, but unfortunately Isy will be unavailable for either date as she will be doing her mock exams.

Given Isy's exams however, it will not be possible to host the images team in Cottenham either date, sorry.

All the best
/Andy

[Andrew M.A. Cater]

On Mon, Oct 09, 2023 at 12:30:02PM -0400, Donald Norwood wrote:
> Hi,

>
> > > Erm, astute readers will realise the 4th and 11th are Saturdays in
> > > November, not December. The correct proposals should be:
> > >
> > > 2nd December (better for candence, no-go for me)
> > > 9th December (more likely suitable in practice)
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> >

> > All the best
> > /Andy
>
> Press can do both weekends, will Andy's image host affect new dates proposed?
>

<Large amounts snipped>

Hi Donald,

Andy was kind enough to host the images team this weekend such that the build
took place from his house on the other side of Cambridge (from "normal" at
Sledge's house),

Isy has important exams - so can't take part in the testing those weekends -
and Andy's been preemptive in confirming that he *can't* _host_ that weekend
but may be able to take part himself as part of the team.

It sounds as if we'll likely be back to Sledge's, then, if that is feasible.

Thanks to both Sledge and RattusRattus for unfailing hospitality.

I foresee a trip to Cambridge twice inside a fortnight for me, anyway.

Andy Cater
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[Donald Norwood]

Hi,

Press can do both weekends, will Andy's image host affect new dates proposed?

[Cyril Brulebois]

Jonathan Wiltshire <j...@debian.org> (2023-10-07):

> How about:
> 4th December (better for cadence)
> 11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

The later the better.


Cheers,
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[Steve McIntyre]

Argh, forgot to respond to this. :-(

On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:

>Hi,
>
>The next point release for bookworm should be around the end of November
>2023. We're about a week behind cadence anyway, but I already know the 28th
>November will be unsuitable (Cambridge mini-debconf) and the weekend
>following is probably recovery time for a lot of people.
>
>Much after that we get into holidays and well off cadence.
>
>How about:
> 4th December (better for cadence)
> 11th December (more likely suitable in practice)

Both of those currently look feasible for me.

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English is about as pure as a cribhouse whore. We don't just borrow words; on
occasion, English has pursued other languages down alleyways to beat them
unconscious and rifle their pockets for new vocabulary." -- James D. Nicoll

[Steve McIntyre]

On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 11:28:21AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>Argh, forgot to respond to this. :-(
>
>On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
>>Hi,
>>
>>The next point release for bookworm should be around the end of November
>>2023. We're about a week behind cadence anyway, but I already know the 28th
>>November will be unsuitable (Cambridge mini-debconf) and the weekend
>>following is probably recovery time for a lot of people.
>>
>>Much after that we get into holidays and well off cadence.
>>
>>How about:
>> 4th December (better for cadence)
>> 11th December (more likely suitable in practice)
>
>Both of those currently look feasible for me.

Do we have a decision being made yet please?

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Steve McIntyre, Cambridge, UK. st...@einval.com

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-- Bertrand Russell

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Thu, 2023-11-09 at 14:55 +0000, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 27, 2023 at 11:28:21AM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
> > Argh, forgot to respond to this. :-(
> >
> > On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > The next point release for bookworm should be around the end of
> > > November
> > > 2023. We're about a week behind cadence anyway, but I already
> > > know the 28th
> > > November will be unsuitable (Cambridge mini-debconf) and the
> > > weekend
> > > following is probably recovery time for a lot of people.
> > >
> > > Much after that we get into holidays and well off cadence.
> > >
> > > How about:
> > > 4th December (better for cadence)
> > > 11th December (more likely suitable in practice)
> >
> > Both of those currently look feasible for me.
>
> Do we have a decision being made yet please?

Assuming everyone's still OK with their previous responses, it looks
like we're going for December 9th. (Not the 11th, as Jonathan
apparently fails at using a calendar.)

If anyone's not happy with that, please yell *soon*.

Regards,

Adam

[Adam D. Barratt]

On Sat, 2023-10-07 at 21:59 +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> On Sat, Oct 07, 2023 at 06:59:03PM +0100, Jonathan Wiltshire wrote:
> > How about:
> > 4th December (better for cadence)
> > 11th December (more likely suitable in practice)
>
> Erm, astute readers will realise the 4th and 11th are Saturdays in
> November, not December. The correct proposals should be:
>
> 2nd December (better for candence, no-go for me)
> 9th December (more likely suitable in practice)
>

Sorry for not replying sooner.

I'd prefer not the 2nd, because that means handling the freeze while at
miniconf. The 9th should be OK.

Regards,

Adam

[Andy Simpkins]

Adam,

All good for me. But as previously mentioned Isy will pass due to sitting mock exams both sides

/Andy

[Luna Jernberg]

Hey!

As i said on IRC earlier yesterday i should be able to help with some
ISO CD testing this round too

[Luna Jernberg]

Reminder Debian 12.3 testing UK afternoon time today

[Luna Jernberg]

Did not really go as planned yesterday as a kernel bug with ext4 that
can corrupt data was found midway

any plans for when we do 12.4 testing instead?

Today Sunday 10th December or next weekend 15-17th December ?

Should be able to help 10th, 16th and 17th