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Holger Levsen
Nov 14, 2012, 7:20:02 AM11/14/12
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On Mittwoch, 14. November 2012, Игорь Пашев wrote:
> XML is not human-readable :-)
either,
you have not seen good XML, or
you are not human, or
you cannot read.
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> XML is not human-readable :-)
either,
you have not seen good XML, or
you are not human, or
you cannot read.
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Enrico Zini
Nov 14, 2012, 7:30:02 AM11/14/12
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On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 01:10:41PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
> On Mittwoch, 14. November 2012, Игорь Пашев wrote:
> > XML is not human-readable :-)
> either,
> you have not seen good XML, or
> you are not human, or
> you cannot read.
I assume that you are defining "good XML" as "XML that is human
> On Mittwoch, 14. November 2012, Игорь Пашев wrote:
> > XML is not human-readable :-)
> either,
> you have not seen good XML, or
> you are not human, or
> you cannot read.
readable": am I right? :)
Ciao,
Enrico
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Dagfinn Ilmari Mannsåker
Nov 14, 2012, 7:40:02 AM11/14/12
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Enrico Zini <enr...@enricozini.org> writes:
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 01:10:41PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
>
>> On Mittwoch, 14. November 2012, Игорь Пашев wrote:
>> > XML is not human-readable :-)
>> either,
>> you have not seen good XML, or
>> you are not human, or
>> you cannot read.
>
> I assume that you are defining "good XML" as "XML that is human
> readable": am I right? :)
Tautological definition is best definition.
> On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 01:10:41PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote:
>
>> On Mittwoch, 14. November 2012, Игорь Пашев wrote:
>> > XML is not human-readable :-)
>> either,
>> you have not seen good XML, or
>> you are not human, or
>> you cannot read.
>
> I assume that you are defining "good XML" as "XML that is human
> readable": am I right? :)
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Tollef Fog Heen
Nov 14, 2012, 8:10:02 AM11/14/12
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]] Holger Levsen
> On Mittwoch, 14. November 2012, Игорь Пашев wrote:
> > XML is not human-readable :-)
>
> either,
> you have not seen good XML, or
> you are not human, or
> you cannot read.
or he just has standards than you for what is considered readable.
readable is more than anything that can be deciphered.
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> On Mittwoch, 14. November 2012, Игорь Пашев wrote:
> > XML is not human-readable :-)
>
> either,
> you have not seen good XML, or
> you are not human, or
> you cannot read.
readable is more than anything that can be deciphered.
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Jakub Wilk
Nov 14, 2012, 8:20:02 AM11/14/12
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* Tollef Fog Heen <tfh...@err.no>, 2012-11-14, 14:00:
not very readable.
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>>>XML is not human-readable :-)
>>either,
>> you have not seen good XML, or
>> you are not human, or
>> you cannot read.
>
>or he just has standards than you for what is considered readable.
>
>readable is more than anything that can be deciphered.
E.g. if you swallow a word your sentence, it can be deciphered, but it's
>>either,
>> you have not seen good XML, or
>> you are not human, or
>> you cannot read.
>
>or he just has standards than you for what is considered readable.
>
>readable is more than anything that can be deciphered.
not very readable.
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Gunnar Wolf
Nov 14, 2012, 10:40:02 AM11/14/12
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Holger Levsen dijo [Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 01:10:41PM +0100]:
one-way-encrypted way of storing information. Or so seems to think
Luis Eduardo Bastías in a newspaper opinion article that really made
me laugh last week:
http://www.latercera.com/noticia/opinion/correos-de-los-lectores/2012/11/896-492551-9-elecciones-y-voto-electronico.shtml
Partial translation,
While it is true that infallible systems do no exist, which means
that errors and delays are unavoidable, they can be drastically
reduced if we simplify and automatize our election processes by
the way of the electronic vote.
For that, it is advisable that each individual vote is stored as a
XML file, to fully satisfy the requirements established in
D.S. No. 81 dated in 2004 and its modifications. This way we will
guarantee that each vote will be stored in its original format,
corresponding to an electronic document, and among other things
will be ready for review when needed.
Did I say that the author signs as "informatic civil engineer"? He
clearly knows how to build XML structures in cement.
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> On Mittwoch, 14. November 2012, Игорь Пашев wrote:
> > XML is not human-readable :-)
>
> either,
> you have not seen good XML, or
> you are not human, or
> you cannot read.
No, Holger, you are really mistaken! XML is clearly a non-modifiable,
> > XML is not human-readable :-)
>
> either,
> you have not seen good XML, or
> you are not human, or
> you cannot read.
one-way-encrypted way of storing information. Or so seems to think
Luis Eduardo Bastías in a newspaper opinion article that really made
me laugh last week:
http://www.latercera.com/noticia/opinion/correos-de-los-lectores/2012/11/896-492551-9-elecciones-y-voto-electronico.shtml
Partial translation,
While it is true that infallible systems do no exist, which means
that errors and delays are unavoidable, they can be drastically
reduced if we simplify and automatize our election processes by
the way of the electronic vote.
For that, it is advisable that each individual vote is stored as a
XML file, to fully satisfy the requirements established in
D.S. No. 81 dated in 2004 and its modifications. This way we will
guarantee that each vote will be stored in its original format,
corresponding to an electronic document, and among other things
will be ready for review when needed.
Did I say that the author signs as "informatic civil engineer"? He
clearly knows how to build XML structures in cement.
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Florian Weimer
Nov 22, 2012, 2:00:04 PM11/22/12
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* Gunnar Wolf:
> No, Holger, you are really mistaken! XML is clearly a non-modifiable,
> one-way-encrypted way of storing information. Or so seems to think
> Luis Eduardo Bastías in a newspaper opinion article that really made
> me laugh last week:
>
> http://www.latercera.com/noticia/opinion/correos-de-los-lectores/2012/11/896-492551-9-elecciones-y-voto-electronico.shtml
>
> Partial translation,
>
> While it is true that infallible systems do no exist, which means
> that errors and delays are unavoidable, they can be drastically
> reduced if we simplify and automatize our election processes by
> the way of the electronic vote.
>
> For that, it is advisable that each individual vote is stored as a
> XML file, to fully satisfy the requirements established in
> D.S. No. 81 dated in 2004 and its modifications. This way we will
> guarantee that each vote will be stored in its original format,
> corresponding to an electronic document, and among other things
> will be ready for review when needed.
I think he referred to XML DSig, which is mentioned in the directive.
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> No, Holger, you are really mistaken! XML is clearly a non-modifiable,
> one-way-encrypted way of storing information. Or so seems to think
> Luis Eduardo Bastías in a newspaper opinion article that really made
> me laugh last week:
>
> http://www.latercera.com/noticia/opinion/correos-de-los-lectores/2012/11/896-492551-9-elecciones-y-voto-electronico.shtml
>
> Partial translation,
>
> While it is true that infallible systems do no exist, which means
> that errors and delays are unavoidable, they can be drastically
> reduced if we simplify and automatize our election processes by
> the way of the electronic vote.
>
> For that, it is advisable that each individual vote is stored as a
> XML file, to fully satisfy the requirements established in
> D.S. No. 81 dated in 2004 and its modifications. This way we will
> guarantee that each vote will be stored in its original format,
> corresponding to an electronic document, and among other things
> will be ready for review when needed.
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