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Bug#873578: xserver-xorg-video-all: Consider removing xserver-xorg-video-intel as Recommended, or downgrade to Suggested

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Itai Shaked

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Aug 29, 2017, 3:40:02 AM8/29/17
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Package: xserver-xorg-video-all
Version: 1:7.7+19
Severity: wishlist

Dear Maintainer,

The description of the package `xserver-xorg-video-intel` says:

> The use of this driver is discouraged if your hw is new enough (ca. 2007 and
newer). You can try uninstalling this driver and let the server use it's
builtin modesetting driver instead.

I think it is safe to assume that in 2017, the vast majority of Debian users
will have hardware meeting this criteria, so having `xserver-xorg-video-all`
Recommend `xserver-xorg-video-intel` seems wrong.
For almost all users, having `xserver-xorg-video-intel` not recommended at all,
or at the very least downgraded to Suggested status, would make much more
sense.




-- System Information:
Debian Release: buster/sid
APT prefers testing
APT policy: (990, 'testing'), (700, 'unstable'), (500, 'testing-debug')
Architecture: amd64 (x86_64)
Foreign Architectures: i386

Kernel: Linux 4.12.0-1-amd64 (SMP w/4 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE=en_US:en (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

Versions of packages xserver-xorg-video-all depends on:
ii xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu 1.3.0-1
ii xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:7.9.0-1
ii xserver-xorg-video-fbdev 1:0.4.4-1+b5
ii xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.15-2
ii xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1:2.3.4-1+b2
ii xserver-xorg-video-vmware 1:13.2.1-1+b1

Versions of packages xserver-xorg-video-all recommends:
pn xserver-xorg-video-intel <none>
pn xserver-xorg-video-qxl <none>

xserver-xorg-video-all suggests no packages.

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Nils Dagsson Moskopp

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Jan 23, 2022, 9:50:06 PM1/23/22
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Package: xserver-xorg-video-all
Followup-For: Bug #873578
X-Debbugs-Cc: nils+debia...@dieweltistgarnichtso.net

Dear Maintainer,


Itai Shaked <ita...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think it is safe to assume that in 2017, the vast majority of Debian
> users will have hardware meeting this criteria, so having
> `xserver-xorg-video-all` Recommend `xserver-xorg-video-intel` seems
> wrong.

It is 2022 and I had to install xserver-xorg-video-intel manually to get
a usable graphical desktop – on a computer which runs Debian just fine …

It seems to me the person suggesting this has no empathy for people who
do not own the latest and greatest hardware. Not everyone can figure it
out that a package that is supposed to install all drivers is not doing
that actually.

Therefore I kindly ask you to please not listen to this person who owns
newer hardware than I do.


Greetings,
Nils Moskopp

-- System Information:
Debian Release: 11.2
APT prefers stable
APT policy: (900, 'stable'), (500, 'oldoldstable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 5.10.0-10-686 (SMP w/2 CPU threads)
Locale: LANG=de_DE.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=de_DE.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8), LANGUAGE not set


Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash
Init: systemd (via /run/systemd/system)

LSM: AppArmor: enabled

Versions of packages xserver-xorg-video-all depends on:

ii xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu 19.1.0-2
ii xserver-xorg-video-ati 1:19.1.0-2
ii xserver-xorg-video-fbdev 1:0.5.0-1
ii xserver-xorg-video-nouveau 1:1.0.17-1
ii xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1:2.5.0-1
ii xserver-xorg-video-vmware 1:13.3.0-3

Versions of packages xserver-xorg-video-all recommends:

ii xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.99.917+git20200714-1+b1

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