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Bug#557771: *** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/perl terminated

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Thomas Schwinge

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Nov 24, 2009, 5:40:03 AM11/24/09
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Package: perl
Version: 5.10.1-8
Severity: important

Hello!

I have a case where perl reproducibly crashed like this:

[...]
scanning tag/open_issue_viengoos.mdwn
scanning tag/open_issue_xen.mdwn
building render_locally
building colophon.mdwn
*** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/perl terminated

This is when using ikiwiki, <http://packages.debian.org/ikiwiki>, for
rendering a set of web pages.

I have this sitting in GDB at the moment, but without debugging symbols
the backtrace is probably not to helpful for you:

(gdb) bt
#0 abort () at abort.c:55
#1 0x0112c71c in __libc_message (do_abort=2, fmt=0x1214956 "*** %s ***: %s terminated\n") at ../sysdeps/posix/libc_fatal.c:138
#2 0x011dc7db in __fortify_fail (msg=0x121493e "stack smashing detected") at fortify_fail.c:32
#3 0x011dc790 in __stack_chk_fail () at stack_chk_fail.c:29
#4 0x08070018 in Perl_newATTRSUB ()
#5 0x0806ed90 in Perl_utilize ()
#6 0x080a5d15 in Perl_yyparse ()
#7 0x0811e93b in ?? ()
#8 0x0811f4fc in Perl_pp_entereval ()
#9 0x080dce79 in Perl_runops_standard ()
#10 0x080770ee in perl_run ()
#11 0x0806093d in main ()

How do you suggest to proceed with debugging this?


-- System Information:
Debian Release: squeeze/sid
APT prefers unstable
APT policy: (500, 'unstable')
Architecture: hurd-i386 (i386-AT386)

Kernel: GNU-Mach 1.3.99/Hurd-0.3
Locale: LANG=C, LC_CTYPE=C (charmap=ANSI_X3.4-1968)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash

Versions of packages perl depends on:
ii hurd 20090404-2 The GNU Hurd
ii libbz2-1.0 1.0.5-3 high-quality block-sorting file co
ii libc0.3 2.10.1-7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries
ii libdb4.7 4.7.25-8 Berkeley v4.7 Database Libraries [
ii libgdbm3 1.8.3-9 GNU dbm database routines (runtime
ii perl-base 5.10.1-8 minimal Perl system
ii perl-modules 5.10.1-8 Core Perl modules
ii zlib1g 1:1.2.3.3.dfsg-15 compression library - runtime

Versions of packages perl recommends:
ii make 3.81-7 An utility for Directing compilati
ii netbase 4.37 Basic TCP/IP networking system

Versions of packages perl suggests:
pn libterm-readline-gnu-perl | l <none> (no description available)
pn perl-doc <none> (no description available)

-- no debconf information


Regards,
Thomas

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Thomas Schwinge

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Nov 25, 2009, 4:00:02 AM11/25/09
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Hello!

Here is a more useful backtrace, thanks to installing the perl-debug
package:

#0 abort () at abort.c:55

act = {__sigaction_handler = {sa_handler = 0x3a, sa_sigaction = 0x3a}, sa_mask = 23067476, sa_flags = 85024}
sigs = <value optimized out>


#1 0x0112c71c in __libc_message (do_abort=2, fmt=0x1214956 "*** %s ***: %s terminated\n") at ../sysdeps/posix/libc_fatal.c:138

ap = 0x15ffb6c "\364\177\"\001\310\352\031\b\001>\036\b\210\373_\001\220\307\035\001>I!\001\310\352\031\b8\374_\001\030"
fd = 4
on_2 = <value optimized out>
list = <value optimized out>
nlist = 5
cp = <value optimized out>


#2 0x011dc7db in __fortify_fail (msg=0x121493e "stack smashing detected") at fortify_fail.c:32

No locals.


#3 0x011dc790 in __stack_chk_fail () at stack_chk_fail.c:29

No locals.
#4 0x08070018 in Perl_newATTRSUB (my_perl=0x819eac8, floor=322, o=0x88b2f28, proto=0x0, attrs=0x0, block=0x889e828) at op.c:5843
aname = 0x0
gv = 0x81e9404
ps = 0x0
ps_len = 150752024
cv = 0x8fa3614
const_sv = <value optimized out>
gv_fetch_flags = 2
name = 0x81e3eb4 "BEGIN"
__PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "Perl_newATTRSUB"
#5 0x0806ed90 in Perl_utilize (my_perl=0x819eac8, aver=1, floor=322, version=0x0, idop=0x88abbd8, arg=0x0) at op.c:3878
pack = 0x88b5810
imop = <value optimized out>
veop = 0x0
#6 0x080a5d15 in Perl_yyparse (my_perl=0x819eac8) at perly.y:659
yystate = <value optimized out>
yyn = 80
yyresult = <value optimized out>
yytoken = <value optimized out>
parser = 0x8d68e04
ps = 0x8d74094
yyval = {ival = 0, pval = 0x0, opval = 0x0, gvval = 0x0, p_tkval = 0x0, i_tkval = 0}
#7 0x0811e93b in S_doeval (my_perl=0x819eac8, gimme=128, startop=0x0, outside=0x85bd834, seq=4264) at pp_ctl.c:2981
sp = <value optimized out>
saveop = 0x85a0f60
__PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "S_doeval"
#8 0x0811f4fc in Perl_pp_entereval (my_perl=0x819eac8) at pp_ctl.c:3671
sp = 0x8bdf044
cx = <value optimized out>
sv = <value optimized out>
gimme = <value optimized out>
was = 2603
tbuf = "_<(eval 1066)\000@\324\031\b\340,\002"
tmpbuf = 0x15ffd82 "_<(eval 1066)"
safestr = 0x8d50760 "_<(eval 1066)"
len = 13
ok = <value optimized out>
runcv = 0x85bd834
seq = 4264
saved_hh = 0x0
#9 0x080dce79 in Perl_runops_standard (my_perl=0x819eac8) at run.c:40
No locals.
#10 0x080770ee in S_run_body (my_perl=0x819eac8) at perl.c:2431
__PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "S_run_body"
#11 perl_run (my_perl=0x819eac8) at perl.c:2349
oldscope = 1
ret = <value optimized out>
cur_env = {je_prev = 0x819ec7c, je_buf = {{__jmpbuf = {23068240, 135910464, 142560, 23068168, 23068096, 134704751},
__mask_was_saved = 0, __saved_mask = 0}}, je_ret = 0, je_mustcatch = 0 '\000'}
#12 0x0806093d in main (argc=2, argv=0x15ffea8, env=0x15ffeb4) at perlmain.c:117
exitstatus = <value optimized out>


Regards,
Thomas

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Niko Tyni

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Nov 29, 2009, 9:50:03 AM11/29/09
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On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 09:45:52AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:

> Here is a more useful backtrace, thanks to installing the perl-debug
> package:

Thanks. Is it reproducible with #!/usr/bin/debugperl ?
That's compiled with extra debugging info and without optimizations,
so the trace should be better.

Could you put together a testcase so others can reproduce it?

Is this specific to the hurd port? I wasn't aware libc is
compiled with fortifying options, is that the case elsewhere too?
--
Niko Tyni nt...@debian.org

Thomas Schwinge

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Dec 22, 2009, 6:20:01 PM12/22/09
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Hello!

Sorry for being late with answering.

On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 01:30:56PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 09:45:52AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
> > Here is a more useful backtrace, thanks to installing the perl-debug
> > package:
>
> Thanks. Is it reproducible with #!/usr/bin/debugperl ?

Yes. Here is the backtrace, from ``break abort'':

#0 abort () at abort.c:55

act = {__sigaction_handler = {sa_handler = 0x3f, sa_sigaction = 0x3f}, sa_mask = 23067412, sa_flags = 85024}


sigs = <value optimized out>
#1 0x0112c71c in __libc_message (do_abort=2, fmt=0x1214956 "*** %s ***: %s terminated\n") at ../sysdeps/posix/libc_fatal.c:138

ap = 0x15ffb2c "\364\177\"\001\003"


fd = 4
on_2 = <value optimized out>
list = <value optimized out>
nlist = 5
cp = <value optimized out>
#2 0x011dc7db in __fortify_fail (msg=0x121493e "stack smashing detected") at fortify_fail.c:32
No locals.
#3 0x011dc790 in __stack_chk_fail () at stack_chk_fail.c:29
No locals.

#4 0x08073e11 in Perl_newATTRSUB (my_perl=0x82b7fe8, floor=322, o=0x8aa56c8, proto=0x0, attrs=0x0, block=0x8aa7680) at op.c:5843
aname = 0x0
gv = 0x872d498
ps = 0x0
ps_len = 153893344
cv = 0x91a6d98


const_sv = <value optimized out>
gv_fetch_flags = 2

name = 0x82ff9dc "BEGIN"
__PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "Perl_newATTRSUB"
#5 0x08072e90 in Perl_utilize (my_perl=0x82b7fe8, aver=1, floor=322, version=0x0, idop=0x8aade80, arg=0x0) at op.c:3878
pack = 0x8a9d198


imop = <value optimized out>
veop = 0x0

#6 0x080c0ed4 in Perl_yyparse (my_perl=0x82b7fe8) at perly.y:659
yystate = 375


yyn = 80
yyresult = <value optimized out>

yytoken = 14
parser = 0x9296608
ps = 0x91a58bc
yyval = {ival = 1, pval = 0x1 <Address 0x1 out of bounds>, opval = 0x1, gvval = 0x1, p_tkval = 0x1 <Address 0x1 out of bounds>,
i_tkval = 1}
#7 0x0819ba68 in S_doeval (my_perl=0x82b7fe8, gimme=128, startop=0x0, outside=0x872d8a8, seq=4264) at pp_ctl.c:2981


sp = <value optimized out>

saveop = 0x8744538
__PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "S_doeval"
#8 0x0819cba4 in Perl_pp_entereval (my_perl=0x82b7fe8) at pp_ctl.c:3671
sp = 0x8e6e048
cx = 0x82dee08


sv = <value optimized out>
gimme = <value optimized out>

was = 2712
tbuf = "_<(eval 1175)\000\350\177+\b\340,\002"
tmpbuf = <value optimized out>
safestr = 0x8ebaec8 "_<(eval 1175)"


len = 13
ok = <value optimized out>

runcv = 0x872d8a8


seq = 4264
saved_hh = 0x0

__PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "Perl_pp_entereval"
#9 0x080ed3a7 in Perl_runops_debug (my_perl=0x82b7fe8) at dump.c:1968
No locals.
#10 0x0807ea20 in S_run_body (my_perl=0x82b7fe8) at perl.c:2431
__PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "S_run_body"
#11 perl_run (my_perl=0x82b7fe8) at perl.c:2349


oldscope = 1
ret = <value optimized out>

cur_env = {je_prev = 0x82b819c, je_buf = {{__jmpbuf = {19038196, 23068240, 142560, 23068168, 23068080, 134735376},

__mask_was_saved = 0, __saved_mask = 0}}, je_ret = 0, je_mustcatch = 0 '\000'}

__PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "perl_run"
#12 0x08060a85 in main (argc=2, argv=0x15ffea8, env=0x15ffeb4) at perlmain.c:117


exitstatus = <value optimized out>

> Could you put together a testcase so others can reproduce it?

I will try to reduce this to a suitable testcase.

> Is this specific to the hurd port?

A quick attempt to reproduce this on GNU/Linux with mostly similar
packages installed didn't reveal this Perl bug, but I'll try some more to
make this reproducible on Linux-based systems. Of course, you (or
everyone else interested) could also get an account on this Hurd machine.


> I wasn't aware libc is
> compiled with fortifying options, is that the case elsewhere too?

Isn't it rather that Perl is being compiled with fortifying options (I
didn't check)? glibc / GCC only provide the infrastructure and print out
the error message.


Regards,
Thomas

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Thomas Schwinge

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Dec 22, 2009, 6:40:02 PM12/22/09
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Hello!

Joey, cf. <http://bugs.debian.org/557771>.


On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 11:55:58PM +0100, I wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 01:30:56PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote:
> > Could you put together a testcase so others can reproduce it?
>
> I will try to reduce this to a suitable testcase.

Still on GNU/Hurd:

hurd-web@foobar:~$ ikiwiki -setup hurd-web.setup --render hurd-web/colophon.mdwn
*** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/debugperl terminated
Aborted
hurd-web@foobar:~$ mv hurd-web/.ikiwiki/indexdb{,.}
hurd-web@foobar:~$ ikiwiki -setup hurd-web.setup --render hurd-web/colophon.mdwn
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
[...]
</body>
</html>
hurd-web@foobar:~$ mv hurd-web/.ikiwiki/indexdb{.,}
hurd-web@foobar:~$ ikiwiki -setup hurd-web.setup --render hurd-web/colophon.mdwn
*** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/debugperl terminated
Aborted

So, the indexdb got corrupted in a way that would make Perl go bonkers.
Is someone interested in debugging this? Otherwise I'll simply have
ikiwiki regenerate this file, and hope that it doesn't get corrupted
again.


> > Is this specific to the hurd port?
>
> A quick attempt to reproduce this on GNU/Linux with mostly similar
> packages installed didn't reveal this Perl bug, but I'll try some more to
> make this reproducible on Linux-based systems. Of course, you (or
> everyone else interested) could also get an account on this Hurd machine.

The offer for an account still holds, too.


Regards,
Thomas

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Thomas Schwinge

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Dec 22, 2009, 7:00:02 PM12/22/09
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Hello again!

Uh, removing the indexdb does fix it when rendering that one file
manually, but not when rebuilding the whole set of page -- even rm -rf
.ikiwiki doesn't help:

[...]
scanning ikiwiki/pagespec/sorting.mdwn
scanning ikiwiki/pagespec/po.mdwn
scanning ikiwiki/subpage/linkingrules.mdwn
building render_locally
building abac.mdwn


*** stack smashing detected ***: /usr/bin/debugperl terminated
Aborted

render_locally is simply copied, and abac.mdwn is the first page to be
built.


Regards,
Thomas

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Niko Tyni

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You're right of course, sorry. It must be the -fstack-protector compile
flag added with 5.10.1. That would explain why I haven't seen reports
with this failure mode earlier.

Niko Tyni

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On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:46:50AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 12:30:27AM +0100, I wrote:

> > So, the indexdb got corrupted in a way that would make Perl go bonkers.
> > Is someone interested in debugging this? Otherwise I'll simply have
> > ikiwiki regenerate this file, and hope that it doesn't get corrupted
> > again.
>
> Uh, removing the indexdb does fix it when rendering that one file
> manually, but not when rebuilding the whole set of page -- even rm -rf
> .ikiwiki doesn't help:

Looks rather like a problem with the Storable module, but it's hard to say
more without a test case.

Please note that the perl test suite doesn't pass on hurd yet AFAIK, so
it's possible this is just a consequence of unimplemented or unfinished
functionality. Reproducing the bug on another port would eliminate that.

Thomas Schwinge

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Hello!

On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 03:26:05PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote:
> Looks rather like a problem with the Storable module, but it's hard to say
> more without a test case.

That's what I thought, too, but I now bisected this down to perlmagick
being installed vs. not being installed. Involving Pino Toscano who
recently did some imagemagick patching
(cf. <http://bugs.debian.org/551017>) -- Pino, please note that I'm not
saying that you're responsible for this perlmagick breakage which we're
discussing in <http://bugs.debian.org/557771>, but perhaps you have an
idea / know how to run some testing / etc.

Unfortunately I can't locate an installable older version of perlmagick
et al. on snapshot.debian.net, but installed vs. not installed is
confirmed on three different (Hurd) systems.


> Please note that the perl test suite doesn't pass on hurd yet AFAIK, so
> it's possible this is just a consequence of unimplemented or unfinished
> functionality. Reproducing the bug on another port would eliminate that.


Regards,
Thomas

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Thomas Schwinge

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Dec 27, 2009, 6:50:01 PM12/27/09
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Hello!

On Sun, Dec 27, 2009 at 11:44:43PM +0100, I wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 03:26:05PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote:
> > Looks rather like a problem with the Storable module, but it's hard to say
> > more without a test case.
>
> That's what I thought, too, but I now bisected this down to perlmagick
> being installed vs. not being installed. Involving Pino Toscano who
> recently did some imagemagick patching
> (cf. <http://bugs.debian.org/551017>) -- Pino, please note that I'm not
> saying that you're responsible for this perlmagick breakage which we're
> discussing in <http://bugs.debian.org/557771>, but perhaps you have an
> idea / know how to run some testing / etc.
>
> Unfortunately I can't locate an installable older version of perlmagick
> et al. on snapshot.debian.net, but installed vs. not installed is
> confirmed on three different (Hurd) systems.

I'm currently building imagemagick 6.2.4.5.dfsg1-2 (which I think was the
latest version built for GNU/Hurd?) in the current Perl environment.


> > Please note that the perl test suite doesn't pass on hurd yet AFAIK, so
> > it's possible this is just a consequence of unimplemented or unfinished
> > functionality. Reproducing the bug on another port would eliminate that.

Trying to run the perlmagick demos:

$ rsync -a /usr/share/doc/perlmagick/examples/demo/ perlmagick-demos/
$ cd perlmagick-demos/
$ gunzip demo.pl
$ make
perl demo.pl
*** stack smashing detected ***: perl terminated
make: *** [all] Aborted

This is not reproducible on i386 Linux.

Reducing further:

$ perl -e 'use Image::Magick;'
*** stack smashing detected ***: perl terminated
Aborted

#0 __stack_chk_fail () at stack_chk_fail.c:29
No locals.
#1 0x08073e11 in Perl_newATTRSUB (my_perl=0x82b7fe8, floor=27, o=0x82b8940, proto=0x0, attrs=0x0, block=0x82b8920) at op.c:5843
aname = 0x0
gv = 0x82fdca8
ps = 0x0
ps_len = 24
cv = 0x82fdc28


const_sv = <value optimized out>
gv_fetch_flags = 2

name = 0x830171c "BEGIN"
__PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "Perl_newATTRSUB"
#2 0x08072e90 in Perl_utilize (my_perl=0x82b7fe8, aver=1, floor=27, version=0x0, idop=0x82b8740, arg=0x0) at op.c:3878
pack = 0x82b8760


imop = <value optimized out>
veop = 0x0

#3 0x080c0ed4 in Perl_yyparse (my_perl=0x82b7fe8) at perly.y:659


yystate = 375
yyn = 80
yyresult = <value optimized out>
yytoken = 14

parser = 0x82f8608
ps = 0x83018bc


yyval = {ival = 1, pval = 0x1 <Address 0x1 out of bounds>, opval = 0x1, gvval = 0x1, p_tkval = 0x1 <Address 0x1 out of bounds>,
i_tkval = 1}

#4 0x08080cc4 in S_parse_body (my_perl=0x82b7fe8, env=0x0, xsinit=0x8060aa0 <xs_init>) at perl.c:2274
rsfp = 0x82f8018
argc = 1
argv = 0x15ffc10
scriptname = 0x823616f "/dev/null"
dosearch = 0 '\000'
sv = 0x82db8d8
c = <value optimized out>
cddir = 0x0
linestr_sv = 0x82db8c8
add_read_e_script = 1 '\001'
__PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "S_parse_body"
#5 0x08082914 in perl_parse (my_perl=0x82b7fe8, xsinit=0x8060aa0 <xs_init>, argc=3, argv=0x15ffc08, env=0x0) at perl.c:1687
oldscope = 1
ret = 0
cur_env = {je_prev = 0x82b819c, je_buf = {{__jmpbuf = {40, 1, 3, 23067496, 23067408, 134751448}, __mask_was_saved = 0,
__saved_mask = 137063936}}, je_ret = 0, je_mustcatch = 0 '\000'}
__PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "perl_parse"
#6 0x08060a42 in main (argc=3, argv=0x15ffc08, env=0x15ffc18) at perlmain.c:115


exitstatus = <value optimized out>


Enough for today; good night.

Regards,
Thomas

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Pino Toscano

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Hi,

Alle domenica 27 dicembre 2009, Thomas Schwinge ha scritto:
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2009 at 03:26:05PM +0200, Niko Tyni wrote:
> > Looks rather like a problem with the Storable module, but it's hard to
> > say more without a test case.
>
> That's what I thought, too, but I now bisected this down to perlmagick
> being installed vs. not being installed. Involving Pino Toscano who
> recently did some imagemagick patching
> (cf. <http://bugs.debian.org/551017>) -- Pino, please note that I'm not
> saying that you're responsible for this perlmagick breakage which we're
> discussing in <http://bugs.debian.org/557771>, but perhaps you have an
> idea / know how to run some testing / etc.

The only change needed was patching GetExecutionPath() (defined in
magick/utility.c); note that the released version is slightly different from
the one I sent.
Knowing whether that function is the actual issue should be matter of taking
the current implementation in the "#if defined(__GNU__) ... #endif" block out
of there, put only a "return (MagickFalse);" in its place, recompile and test.
If it still doesn't work with the above change, another option would be adding
1 to the calculation of "extent" (always in the __GNU__ block said above).
A further option would be asking upstream to provide more unit test for that
function, in case the current unit tests (which all pass on Hurd) do not
covert it yet/fully.

--
Pino Toscano

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Dominic Hargreaves

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tags 557771 +unreproducible
thanks
I can't reproduce this on an up to date sid system:

dom@hurdtest:~/perlmagick-demos$ perl -v

This is perl 5, version 14, subversion 2 (v5.14.2) built for i486-gnu-thread-multi-64int
(with 59 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail)
...

dom@hurdtest:~$ perl -e 'use Image::Magick;'
dom@hurdtest:~$

I think bisecting to find out where the bug went away is going to be a
lot of work for not much gain, so I propose to just close this off with
no further work. Any objections?

Thanks,
Dominic.

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Thomas Schwinge

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Hi!

First, thanks for handling this old issue!


On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 22:58:37 +0000, Dominic Hargreaves <d...@earth.li> wrote:
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:43:43AM +0100, Thomas Schwinge wrote:
> > $ perl -e 'use Image::Magick;'
> > *** stack smashing detected ***: perl terminated
> > Aborted
>
> I can't reproduce this on an up to date sid system:
>
> dom@hurdtest:~/perlmagick-demos$ perl -v
>
> This is perl 5, version 14, subversion 2 (v5.14.2) built for i486-gnu-thread-multi-64int
> (with 59 registered patches, see perl -V for more detail)
> ...
>
> dom@hurdtest:~$ perl -e 'use Image::Magick;'
> dom@hurdtest:~$
>
> I think bisecting to find out where the bug went away is going to be a
> lot of work for not much gain, so I propose to just close this off with
> no further work. Any objections?

Seems fine for this case.

We had been doing some further triage at
<http://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/open_issues/perlmagick.html>
(<http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/hurd/web.git/tree/open_issues/perlmagick.mdwn>
for posterity), but apparently that information never found its way into
this bug report, which I apologize for.


Grüße,
Thomas
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