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Yakov Mindelis

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Dec 17, 2003, 8:37:46 AM12/17/03
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Hi all,

I am trying to upgrade the existing debian 2.1 to 3.0r2

first I tried the to boot the installation:

I copied the amiga files from the 1-st official cd to the hd (kernel,
ramdisk image amiboot etc):

booted without startup sequence
run setpatch (43.6)(wb3.1)
run startinstall script from shell
after return teice with regular blabla it went into (light) grey screen,
and then nothing happened

tried to setpatch of wb3.9 bb2(first time it rebooted, then run it again):
same stuff happened(grey screen)

tried to add :
video=vga ide=doubler
video=pal-hires ide=doubler

nothing changed

the older kernel boots fine and system loads ok

hardware is as follows:
amiga1200
ks3.1
blizzard 1260 + 64Mb
ide buffered interface(the one that connected to the ide port)
2 hds
cdrom
cdrw
ateo bus+pixel64(support for this anyone?)
prelude(clockport) sound card
external scandoubler+flickerfixer

Thanks in advance
Jack

Christian T. Steigies

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Dec 17, 2003, 10:39:27 PM12/17/03
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Yakov Mindelis <ja...@aerodyne.technion.ac.il> writes:

> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to upgrade the existing debian 2.1 to 3.0r2
>
> first I tried the to boot the installation:
>
> I copied the amiga files from the 1-st official cd to the hd (kernel,
> ramdisk image amiboot etc):

To upgrade to 3.0 you do not have to install again, you just want to
upgrade the packages. If you also want to upgrade the kernel, you want
to install a new kernel-image package (ie 2.4.20) from linux, and then
make the vmlinuz file accessible to your linux start script (usually
copy it to an Amiga partition).

> booted without startup sequence
> run setpatch (43.6)(wb3.1)
> run startinstall script from shell
> after return teice with regular blabla it went into (light) grey screen,
> and then nothing happened

If you run dmesg (in AmigaOS) it will probably tell you something about bogl,
like written in the (now unaccessible) FAQ:

# bogl: don't know screen type 0 (or 1)

Read about dbootstrap Arguments. Solution: add "nolangchooser" to your boot
options.
[...]

If that does not help (in case you want to install from scratch), please show
us the output from dmesg.

Christian
--
It's not easy being green. Kermit the frog
http://people.debian.org/~cts/debian-m68k/woody

Yakov Mindelis

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Dec 18, 2003, 4:40:08 AM12/18/03
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>
> To upgrade to 3.0 you do not have to install again, you just want to
> upgrade the packages. If you also want to upgrade the kernel, you want
> to install a new kernel-image package (ie 2.4.20) from linux, and then
> make the vmlinuz file accessible to your linux start script (usually
> copy it to an Amiga partition).

I tried to boot the existing kernel and ramdisk. They didn't want to.
They are on amiga partition now (as I described).

TIA,
Jack.


Yakov Mindelis

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Dec 18, 2003, 4:42:55 AM12/18/03
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>
> To upgrade to 3.0 you do not have to install again, you just want to
> upgrade the packages. If you also want to upgrade the kernel, you want

How can I upgrade packages? I couldn't manage the existing dselect to do
it. And. imho, there's no sense to do it before I manafe to get
appropriate version of kernel booting.

TIA,
Jack

Wouter Verhelst

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Dec 18, 2003, 5:15:03 AM12/18/03
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In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.03121...@aeone.technion.ac.il>,

Yakov Mindelis <ja...@aerodyne.technion.ac.il> writes:
> Hi all,
>
> I am trying to upgrade the existing debian 2.1 to 3.0r2
>
> first I tried the to boot the installation:

There's no need to do that if your existing 2.1-installation still
works. Simply boot it, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to
3.0r2-sources, run "dselect", and in dselect, run "update" followed by
"select", followed by "install".

It's imperative that you do this through dselect -- doing an upgrade
using apt-get proper is likely to fail.

If you have already wiped your hard disk, though:

> I copied the amiga files from the 1-st official cd to the hd (kernel,
> ramdisk image amiboot etc):
>
> booted without startup sequence
> run setpatch (43.6)(wb3.1)
> run startinstall script from shell
> after return teice with regular blabla it went into (light) grey screen,
> and then nothing happened

This is a known bug -- a FAQ, perhaps. You need to add the option
"nolangchooser" to the installer's command line; it'll work once you
do.

[...]

--
Wouter Verhelst
Debian GNU/Linux -- http://www.debian.org
Nederlandstalige Linux-documentatie -- http://nl.linux.org
"Stop breathing down my neck." "My breathing is merely a simulation."
"So is my neck, stop it anyway!"
-- Voyager's EMH versus the Prometheus' EMH, stardate 51462.

Yakov Mindelis

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Dec 18, 2003, 5:34:24 AM12/18/03
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> > I am trying to upgrade the existing debian 2.1 to 3.0r2
> >
> > first I tried the to boot the installation:
>
> There's no need to do that if your existing 2.1-installation still
> works. Simply boot it, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to
> 3.0r2-sources, run "dselect", and in dselect, run "update" followed by
> "select", followed by "install".
I'll try it. I still can not see how will it know to ask to change the
media? Will it?

>
> It's imperative that you do this through dselect -- doing an upgrade
> using apt-get proper is likely to fail.
>

> This is a known bug -- a FAQ, perhaps. You need to add the option
> "nolangchooser" to the installer's command line; it'll work once you
> do.


Ok thanks for this hint, I'll if I can boot the kernel with this arg.
I'll also see if the installer offers to upgrade the existing system
(can't recall it from debian install of 3.0 on A1).

10X a lot,
Jack


Wouter Verhelst

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Dec 18, 2003, 6:45:10 AM12/18/03
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>> > I am trying to upgrade the existing debian 2.1 to 3.0r2
>> >
>> > first I tried the to boot the installation:
>>
>> There's no need to do that if your existing 2.1-installation still
>> works. Simply boot it, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list to point to
>> 3.0r2-sources, run "dselect", and in dselect, run "update" followed by
>> "select", followed by "install".
> I'll try it. I still can not see how will it know to ask to change the
> media? Will it?

Ah. If you're installing from CD-ROM (sorry, I was assuming you were
installing over the network) then you need to use the "apt-cdrom" tool
to add CD's, as follows:

apt-cdrom add

You may need to run that tool for each CD-ROM you have; once that's
done, proceed as normal with dselect (but make sure to use the "apt"
method).

Note that it's usually a good idea to upgrade apt and dpkg before you
do the rest of your upgrade:

apt-get install apt dpkg

This should avoid some problems you might otherwise have.

Also, note that this may work, but skipping a release while upgrading
(i.e., upgrading from 2.1 directly to 3.0, not going by 2.2 first) is
not supported; it might work, but if it breaks, you get to keep both
pieces. If you want to be sure, upgrade to 2.2 first (you can still
get that from archive.debian.org), and go to 3.0 from there.

> Ok thanks for this hint, I'll if I can boot the kernel with this arg.
> I'll also see if the installer offers to upgrade the existing system
> (can't recall it from debian install of 3.0 on A1).

I don't think it does. In fact, I'm fairly sure :-)

Yakov Mindelis

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Dec 18, 2003, 2:58:28 PM12/18/03
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> Ah. If you're installing from CD-ROM (sorry, I was assuming you were
> installing over the network) then you need to use the "apt-cdrom" tool
> to add CD's, as follows:
>
> apt-cdrom add
>
> You may need to run that tool for each CD-ROM you have; once that's
> done, proceed as normal with dselect (but make sure to use the "apt"
> method).
>
> Note that it's usually a good idea to upgrade apt and dpkg before you
> do the rest of your upgrade:
>
> apt-get install apt dpkg
>

10X. I'll try it, it won't be a great loss if it breaks:-). I hope the apt
and dpkg from 2.1 will cope with the cds. The A1200 at home is offline and
I don't want to start carying deb files(2.1 was installed piece by piece
the, first base, then downloading pkgs on AmigaOS side with modem,
rebooting, nmounting the ffs partition with packages and thenm installing)

Jack

Yakov Mindelis

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Dec 19, 2003, 5:08:55 AM12/19/03
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> This is a known bug -- a FAQ, perhaps. You need to add the option
> "nolangchooser" to the installer's command line; it'll work once you
> do.
can not boot with the kernel from the cd. However I can use my kernel
(2.2.10, not the one from 2.1 but built here): I can boot with "video=vga
ide=doubler nolanchooser" as options. I see the installer, but I can not
mount the cdroms (it offers me to mount them, but I couldn't even do it in
shell). I'll try to make bigger ramdisk, and copy the modules from the
existing linux partition adn see waht happens. Looks like the kernel can't
find iso9660 fs support.

The main question is: why the supplied kernel is confused with (imho)
video args I supply (pal-hirel, vga). I also trued the -v arg of amiboot
to keep existing video and got black screen with 2 bright curves at the
bottom of the screen which faded gradually (15 seconds)

Any ideas?


TIA,
Jack

Yakov Mindelis

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Dec 23, 2003, 10:44:04 AM12/23/03
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On Fri, 19 Dec 2003, Yakov Mindelis wrote:

Afaiu, the problem is that the 2.2.20 kernel supplied on official 3.0r2
cds isn't bootable on my amiga. Tried difeerent videon mode combinations
(pal-lace, pal, vga, vga70) with "nolangchooser" and "ide=doubler"
options.

I even tried to pick the installed 2.1 root partition with new kernel. My
old kernel (2.2.10) boots fine with the ramdisk image(root.bin). I could
make the existing 2.2.10 modules avaliable when booting installer with the
older kernlel and then to try to pick up the cd drives on the ide buffered
interface to install from them.

The problem that I'm not eager 2do so when I can't boot with 2.2.20
kernel. If there'll be no other option I'll try to cross compile the newer
kernel with iso9660 support inside for the amiga1200 on my A1 'cause
I don't have enough time to baby-sit the kernel compilation on m68k at
home:-(

Maybe someone here has 2.2.20+ kernel different from the one which comes
on 3.0 cds and has iso9660 inside?


BTW: what's the status of support for pcmcia network adapters on A1200
(are reset fixes needed, supported types of cards)?


TIA,
Jack

Yakov Mindelis

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Dec 26, 2003, 8:05:59 AM12/26/03
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On Tue, 23 Dec 2003, Yakov Mindelis wrote:
> Afaiu, the problem is that the 2.2.20 kernel supplied on official 3.0r2
> cds isn't bootable on my amiga. Tried difeerent videon mode combinations
> (pal-lace, pal, vga, vga70) with "nolangchooser" and "ide=doubler"
> options.
>
Used debug=mem and dmesg, and the suspicious stuff is:

amikeyb: unknown keyboard comunication code 0xff
amikeyb: unknown keyboard comunication code 0xff

amikeyb: keyboard lost sync

warning: unable to open initial console
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
(EOF)

The keyboard is a4000 one the the keyboard interface that sits over the
one of the chips (cia?), the machine is A1200

TIA,
Jack


Yakov Mindelis

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Jan 3, 2004, 3:21:26 PM1/3/04
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Hi all,

I'm changing topic to something moresuitable>
I'm trying to boot 2.2.20 amiga kernel which comes with debian3.0r2 and I
think that my keyboard isn't welcome:-(.

Used debug=mem and dmesg, and the suspicious stuff is(blank line
represent omitted output):



amikeyb: unknown keyboard comunication code 0xff
amikeyb: unknown keyboard comunication code 0xff

amikeyb: keyboard lost sync

warning: unable to open initial console
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
(EOF)

The keyboard is a4000 connected via keyboard interface that sits over
the one of the chips of the A1200


TIA,
Jack

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