Donating a20-cubietruck board

[benn]

Dear list,

I'm Benn Huang from cubietech. I am very exciting to see such an active
community - linux-sunxi, and I know that many guys in the community
spend many days and nights for the community grow. I think the effort is
impossible to measured in money.

What I can do is to contribute my effort and ask allwinner to support us
better, and I will do it continuously.
Besides, I want to donate some a20-cubietruck boards and Cubie T-Shirts
to the people who make big contribute to the community.

About the a20-cubietruck, I think the big different are, (comparing to
previous cubieboard)
1. support 2.5/3.5 sata drive
2. 1000 Mbps NIC
3. wifi/bt on board
4. Li-Bat support
5. RTC support
6. VGA/HDMI support

all these will make thing very interesting.

About the T-Shirt, please look at
http://cubieboard.org/2013/09/07/a-colombia-friend-share-a-new-wallpaper-of-cubies/
1. that is an example make by hand, so the final t-shirt will look better
2. The logo is designed by a friend from colombia according to cubie
wallpapers.


For those who want to apply, please
1. tell the list who you are, and what effort have you made for the
linux-sunxi community

More to say
1. I am going to donating about 30 boards like last time, but at first I
can only provide 10 pieces because of the PCBs,
next production will send out the other boards
(so please let the maintainers first)
2. The T-Shirt will be more than 50 pcs

[benn]

the apply window will be close a week later, so please in hurry :P

[Hans de Goede]

Hi Ben,

On 09/11/2013 05:44 AM, benn wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> I'm Benn Huang from cubietech. I am very exciting to see such an active community - linux-sunxi, and I know that many guys in the community
> spend many days and nights for the community grow. I think the effort is impossible to measured in money.
>
> What I can do is to contribute my effort and ask allwinner to support us better, and I will do it continuously.
> Besides, I want to donate some a20-cubietruck boards and Cubie T-Shirts to the people who make big contribute to the community.
>
> About the a20-cubietruck, I think the big different are, (comparing to previous cubieboard)
> 1. support 2.5/3.5 sata drive
> 2. 1000 Mbps NIC
> 3. wifi/bt on board
> 4. Li-Bat support
> 5. RTC support
> 6. VGA/HDMI support
>
> all these will make thing very interesting.
>
> About the T-Shirt, please look at
> http://cubieboard.org/2013/09/07/a-colombia-friend-share-a-new-wallpaper-of-cubies/
> 1. that is an example make by hand, so the final t-shirt will look better
> 2. The logo is designed by a friend from colombia according to cubie wallpapers.
>
>
> For those who want to apply, please
> 1. tell the list who you are, and what effort have you made for the linux-sunxi community

I would like to receive one, my name is Hans de Goede, and I've been doing quite a bit on
the linux-sunxi kernel lately, I also am the creator and maintainer of the Fedora 18 and 19
images for A10(s) / A13 / A20 devices, so most people on the list probably already know me :)

Regards,

Hans

[Arokux X]

Hi Benn,

I am excited to read such a warm e-mail. Please do you best to convince Allwinner to work with sunxi.org as close as possible, the code piles that find their way to us (without history and commit messages) are not enough for us to mainline quickly as well as to fix bugs in the legacy kernel sunxi-3.4.

I will be very happy if you donate one Cubietruck along with T-Shirt (size L) to me! Currently I only have A10 hardware.

My contributions are:

- Support in the #linux-sunxi irc chat.

- Improvements to our wiki, see http://linux-sunxi.org/Special:Contributions/Arokux

- Clean up of the USB EHCI/OHCI in the sunxi-3.4, you can see it with git log --author=arokux

- Mainlining of the USB EHCI/OHCI. You can see initial code here https://github.com/arokux/linux/commits/sunxi-usb-host In last days I've found the last bit needed so, now it works flawlessly. Currently I'm cleaning it and soon will post patches against mainline.

- Last but not least, I test new fixes and drivers. :)

Best,

Arokux

[benn]

get it, thanks.

Best,

Arokux

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[Ian Campbell]

Hi Benn,

On Wed, 2013-09-11 at 11:44 +0800, benn wrote:

> For those who want to apply, please
> 1. tell the list who you are, and what effort have you made for the
> linux-sunxi community

I'm one of the upstream maintainers for the Xen port to ARM processors.
I've only contributed a couple of small patches to the linux-sunxi
community however I've been working on getting the Xen hypervisor
running on the cubieboard2 (see [1], still WIP) and would like very much
to be able to support the cubietruck too.

I'd be happy if you could send me a cubietruck but I would completely
understand if the above doesn't meet the conditions.

T-shirt-wise I'm an XL.

Thanks,
Ian.

[1] http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-devel/2013-09/msg00880.html

[Rosimildo DaSilva]

Where is the Spec for this board ?, specially the connectivity ( connectors and headers ).

R

[Arokux X]

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 2:27 PM, Rosimildo DaSilva <rosi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Where is the Spec for this board ?, specially the connectivity ( connectors and headers ).

R

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=cubietruck

[benn]

On 2013年09月11日 20:27, Rosimildo DaSilva wrote:

Where is the Spec for this board ?, specially the connectivity ( connectors and headers ).

We are preparing for that. It will be available very soon.

[thomas schorpp]

Hi cubitech

Am 11.09.2013 05:44, schrieb benn:
> Dear list,
>
> I'm Benn Huang from cubietech. I am very exciting to see such an active community - linux-sunxi, and I know that many guys in the community
> spend many days and nights for the community grow. I think the effort is impossible to measured in money.
>
> What I can do is to contribute my effort and ask allwinner to support us better, and I will do it continuously.
> Besides, I want to donate some a20-cubietruck boards and Cubie T-Shirts to the people who make big contribute to the community.
>
> About the a20-cubietruck, I think the big different are, (comparing to previous cubieboard)
> 1. support 2.5/3.5 sata drive
> 2. 1000 Mbps NIC
> 3. wifi/bt on board
> 4. Li-Bat support
> 5. RTC support
> 6. VGA/HDMI support
>
> all these will make thing very interesting.
>
> About the T-Shirt, please look at
> http://cubieboard.org/2013/09/07/a-colombia-friend-share-a-new-wallpaper-of-cubies/
> 1. that is an example make by hand, so the final t-shirt will look better
> 2. The logo is designed by a friend from colombia according to cubie wallpapers.
>
>
> For those who want to apply, please
> 1. tell the list who you are, and what effort have you made for the linux-sunxi community

I'm on software and hardware to support DVB- receiver modules like the Philips CU1216 connected directly on the Ax0 Transport Stream Controller Interface,
to avoid the need for DVB- usb bridges for VDR, XBMC, Mythv, etc, and so to have our USB busses free for other uses.

If You and the other devs/users here want (ATSC?)DVB- tuner support and Your (TS0/1)CSI0/1 is NOT GPIO- connector pin compatible with the Olimex Ax0 micro,
https://github.com/OLIMEX/OLINUXINO/tree/master/HARDWARE/A10-OLinuXino-MICRO
and You've got at least (CSI0)TS0 or 1 on GPIO connectors

You should add me, too, for any Ax0 cubieboard model sample with those TS on GPIO, low priority,

so we have a common hardware base for development, and the wiki states cubieboards are "featured" here,
for the SMT connector receiver module extension board I'll design and build as soon as my low retirement funds allow it, next weeks.

A basic Android alpha driver from Allwinnertech has been already ported by me to linux-sunxi and is (for basic init sequences) tested:
[PATCH v4 2/2] [stage/sunxi-3.4] Add support for Allwinner (DVB/ATSC) Transport Stream Controller(s) (TSC)
from 8/14/2013 is last state on mailing list, don't know if maintainer's have commited it already.

Or the devs with cubieboard ask Olimex to donate one? ;-) CC'd johns9...@yahoo.co.uk .

We need at least one more Olimex Ax0 for a linux-dvb / DMA - developer, or 2 Ax0 cubies, I cannot promise I can achieve that alone, and I will take many months if alone,
anyway, we need the VE for MPEG2/4 decoding DVB- streams, will take months, too, until stable for A20?
Building the DVB- receiver extension board is easy, most dvb-developers can assemble it in less than 2 hours, if not I would provide a DVB-C board at
the PCB, linear and connector parts and postage costs, DVB-S is more complex because of the need for a LNB driver circuit (and software driver adaption).
Even DVB-S2 boards can be build from parts cheap around on Ebay, but this needs stable working high performance DMA and h.264 VE decoding for live TV display.

...

I hereby [RFC] all (extension) board manufacturers to agree to extension connector pin compatibility in future revisions, at least for the CSI(TS) ports
or what else the users and devs interested in, too, and or provide SMT connector adapters (maybe the cheaper way and for older revisions).

This would make business easier for all extension board suppliers, and all claim "Open Hardware", so there's no reason for proprietary GPIO designs.

Y
tom

[Bastiaan van den Berg]

On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 5:44 AM, benn <benn....@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear list,

For those who want to apply, please
1. tell the list who you are, and what effort have you made for the linux-sunxi community

Heya,

 I am buZz and one of the supporters in both the #cubieboard and #linux-sunxi IRC channels.

 Have been introducing a lot of people to the wonderfull world of allwinner's chips and designing cases for it over on thingiverse.com

 I would _love_ to get a cubieboard tshirt :D

--

buZz 

[Henrik Nordström]

ons 2013-09-11 klockan 11:44 +0800 skrev benn:

> Besides, I want to donate some a20-cubietruck boards and Cubie T-Shirts
> to the people who make big contribute to the community.

I maintain the community u-boot version with SPL support for sunxi, and
it is good if I have a board to verify releases on and to debug any
issues seen with specific board.

T-shirt size is large.

Regards
Henrik

[Henrik Nordström]

ons 2013-09-11 klockan 20:31 +0200 skrev thomas schorpp:

> I hereby [RFC] all (extension) board manufacturers to agree to extension connector pin compatibility in future revisions, at least for the CSI(TS) ports
> or what else the users and devs interested in, too, and or provide SMT connector adapters (maybe the cheaper way and for older revisions).
>

This neeed so go to the mailinglist to have any effect.

Cubieboard and OLinuXIno boards uses different extension headers
entirely, both in size, type and pinout.

> This would make business easier for all extension board suppliers, and all claim "Open Hardware", so there's no reason for proprietary GPIO designs.

Yes, but not always possible, there is different constraints in size.

Regards
Henrik

[thomas schorpp]

Am 12.09.2013 11:36, schrieb Henrik Nordstr�m:
> ons 2013-09-11 klockan 20:31 +0200 skrev thomas schorpp:
>
>> I hereby [RFC] all (extension) board manufacturers to agree to extension connector pin compatibility in future revisions, at least for the CSI(TS) ports
>> or what else the users and devs interested in, too, and or provide SMT connector adapters (maybe the cheaper way and for older revisions).
>>
>
> This neeed so go to the mailinglist to have any effect.

?

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>
> Cubieboard and OLinuXIno boards uses different extension headers
> entirely, both in size, type and pinout.

Olimex A20 uses "standard" 2.54 mm pitch, 40 pins, 2�20 (2 rows of 20 pins) IDC SMT male connectors (like PATA IDE),
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector

Cubieboard male "simple" pin headers typically spaced 0.1 inches (2.54 mm) >2x20,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin_header

looks compatible, if not millimetres (0.079 in) or 0.05 inches (1.27 mm) pitch,
http://blogzs1jen.dyndns.org:83/wp-content/gallery/cubieboard-accessories/breadboard_640.jpg
http://ubuntuone.com/62cLCytl7yfB9ElgIFEeon , p.1,7.

Cubietech (owners) confirm?

>
>> This would make business easier for all extension board suppliers, and all claim "Open Hardware", so there's no reason for proprietary GPIO designs.
>
> Yes, but not always possible, there is different constraints in size.

Sure.

>
> Regards
> Henrik
>

y
tom

[Michal Suchanek]

On 12 September 2013 13:29, thomas schorpp <thomas....@gmail.com> wrote:

> Am 12.09.2013 11:36, schrieb Henrik Nordström:
>>
>> ons 2013-09-11 klockan 20:31 +0200 skrev thomas schorpp:

>>
>> Cubieboard and OLinuXIno boards uses different extension headers
>> entirely, both in size, type and pinout.
>
>
> Olimex A20 uses "standard" 2.54 mm pitch, 40 pins, 2×20 (2 rows of 20 pins)
> IDC SMT male connectors (like PATA IDE),
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector
>
> Cubieboard male "simple" pin headers typically spaced 0.1 inches (2.54 mm)
>>2x20,
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin_header
>
> looks compatible, if not millimetres (0.079 in) or 0.05 inches (1.27 mm)
> pitch,
> http://blogzs1jen.dyndns.org:83/wp-content/gallery/cubieboard-accessories/breadboard_640.jpg
> http://ubuntuone.com/62cLCytl7yfB9ElgIFEeon , p.1,7.

Cubieboard uses something like 22x2 2mm pitch headers. The pin count
is strange and the 2mm headers are way less common. I guess getting
these connectors in China is not that much of a problem but getting
them in most parts of Europe is somewhat challenging. Most stores
carry 2.54 mm connectors and you can still get the 40pin cables for
IDE disks which make olinuxino really easy to connect.

The easiest way to connect cubieboard is probably 2.5" to 3.5" IDE
disk adaptor cable. It does not connect all pins but for most
applications you don't need all of them anyway. If you base on the
40pin IDE you can connect cubieboard to olinuxino extensions with some
lead swapping on the 2mm side of the cable I guess.

Of course, 2mm headers make it possible to build small and cute boards.

Thanks

Michal

[thomas schorpp]

Am 12.09.2013 17:02, schrieb Michal Suchanek:
> On 12 September 2013 13:29, thomas schorpp <thomas....@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Am 12.09.2013 11:36, schrieb Henrik Nordstr�m:
>>>
>>> ons 2013-09-11 klockan 20:31 +0200 skrev thomas schorpp:
>
>>>
>>> Cubieboard and OLinuXIno boards uses different extension headers
>>> entirely, both in size, type and pinout.
>>
>>
>> Olimex A20 uses "standard" 2.54 mm pitch, 40 pins, 2�20 (2 rows of 20 pins)
>> IDC SMT male connectors (like PATA IDE),
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector
>>
>> Cubieboard male "simple" pin headers typically spaced 0.1 inches (2.54 mm)
>>> 2x20,
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin_header
>>
>> looks compatible, if not millimetres (0.079 in) or 0.05 inches (1.27 mm)
>> pitch,
>> http://blogzs1jen.dyndns.org:83/wp-content/gallery/cubieboard-accessories/breadboard_640.jpg
>> http://ubuntuone.com/62cLCytl7yfB9ElgIFEeon , p.1,7.
>
> Cubieboard uses something like 22x2 2mm pitch headers. The pin count
> is strange

It's not "strange", it looks like typical proprietary closed hardware design to me, like all those
MK8xx, etc, Android boards.

> and the 2mm headers are way less common. I guess getting
> these connectors in China is not that much of a problem but getting
> them in most parts of Europe is somewhat challenging.

Well, anyway, since Cubietech's main interest seems to be software only:
http://cubieboard.org/docs/
and I've got not time and nerves to dig thru their webforum to collect parts for puzzles, sorry,

I'm taking Olimex as "featured" for hardware projects, my sample request to Cubietech is taken back,
Thanks.

>
> Thanks
>
> Michal
>

y
tom

[Michal Suchanek]

How is that closed design? The pinout is available eg. here:
http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard/ExpansionPorts

There is even a link from the cubieboard.org support section as well
as the docs section.

The strange bit is that most available connectors have different pin
count - something like 20x2 or 25x2 - not 22x2.

>
>
>> and the 2mm headers are way less common. I guess getting
>> these connectors in China is not that much of a problem but getting
>> them in most parts of Europe is somewhat challenging.
>
>
> Well, anyway, since Cubietech's main interest seems to be software only:
> http://cubieboard.org/docs/
> and I've got not time and nerves to dig thru their webforum to collect parts
> for puzzles, sorry,

Yes, the cubieboard documentation could improve still but at this
point it's quite easy to find and extensive. You definitely don't have
to fish in a web forum.

>
> I'm taking Olimex as "featured" for hardware projects, my sample request to
> Cubietech is taken back,
> Thanks.

Olimex certainly makes hardware hacking easier. After all they are in
Europe and tailor their boards to European customers that use parts
common in Europe.


Thanks

Michal

[thomas schorpp]

What? Is linux-sunxi.org now a manufacturer of cubieboards?

Or is linux-sunxi.org a department of Cubietech? The wiki looks like.*

Are You kidding me?

Never read the footer of datasheets?
"All specification is subject to change without notice.",
expect that with every new PCB rev. and state it in the wiki, thank You.

>
> There is even a link from the cubieboard.org support section as well
> as the docs section.

*Circular link:
http://cubieboard.org/support/ -> http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard

NO schematics, no PCB layout, specs for SOFTWARE makers only:
http://cubiebook.org/index.php?title=Main_Page#Cubieboard2.28Main_Chip:A20.29

>
> The strange bit is that most available connectors have different pin
> count - something like 20x2 or 25x2 - not 22x2.
>
>>
>>
>>> and the 2mm headers are way less common. I guess getting
>>> these connectors in China is not that much of a problem but getting
>>> them in most parts of Europe is somewhat challenging.
>>
>>
>> Well, anyway, since Cubietech's main interest seems to be software only:
>> http://cubieboard.org/docs/
>> and I've got not time and nerves to dig thru their webforum to collect parts
>> for puzzles, sorry,
>
> Yes, the cubieboard documentation could improve still but at this
> point it's quite easy to find and extensive. You definitely don't have
> to fish in a web forum.

No link(s). Noone knows what EXACTLY You're talking of, sorry.

>
>>
>> I'm taking Olimex as "featured" for hardware projects, my sample request to
>> Cubietech is taken back,
>> Thanks.
>
> Olimex certainly makes hardware hacking easier. After all they are in
> Europe and tailor their boards to European customers that use parts
> common in Europe.

IDC IDE connectors have been designed in Europe? By who? Siemens?
Molex has been a U.S.- Enterprise since the 60s.

>
>
> Thanks
>
> Michal
>

y
tom

[thomas schorpp]

Insufficent for hardware makers, for high speed signalling applications e.g. You need the schematics
and PCB layout SoC <-> PIN header, because those PIN header GPIO ports are NOT standarded like PCI e.g.

>
>
> Thanks
>
> Michal
>

y
tom

[Patrick Wood]

I would be interesting in getting a cubietruck; however, I'll be away on vacation starting in a week and won't be back until 1 Oct, so I can wait for a board from the second batch.

I've spent most of my time recently working on the sun7i nand driver and nand partition tool, g2d, cedarx, and just general testing of the gpio and mali drivers on the CB2.  I've spent a bit of time already working with a couple of different USB bluetooth adapters on the CB1, which work fine right out of the box.  But it looks like someone's (me?) going to have to bring up the AP6210 driver on the 3.4 branch, as I could only find android linux drivers for it.

+1 for Hans and Henrik getting one from the first batch, by the way.

Pat

[Michal Suchanek]

Cubietech is one of the contributors to the wiki. For me it's enough
that one copy of the information exists and there is link form the
cubieboard page. Sure they could make a copy in a PDF manual or
something but it's mostly wasted effort.

>
> Are You kidding me?
>
> Never read the footer of datasheets?
> "All specification is subject to change without notice.",
> expect that with every new PCB rev. and state it in the wiki, thank You.

That's common disclaimer. Maybe odd for a devboard but hey, you can
ask what version you are getting or even get custom modification when
ordering in bulk.

>
>
>>
>> There is even a link from the cubieboard.org support section as well
>> as the docs section.
>
>
> *Circular link:
> http://cubieboard.org/support/ -> http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubieboard

Your browser has tracking of visited links so you can see to what
sites you already were to if your memory can't hold that information.
I prefer circular links so that you can get from every site to every
other related site to one-way links which keep you wondering how the
hell you got there.

>
> NO schematics, no PCB layout, specs for SOFTWARE makers only:
> http://cubiebook.org/index.php?title=Main_Page#Cubieboard2.28Main_Chip:A20.29

Schematics are in the download section (and surely linked from
elsewhere) but they are unfortunately not up-to-date. That's one gripe
that could be easily resolved by cubietech but not addressed so far.
The label says the schematic is same for 0909 version but there were a
few differences from actual hardware identified.

>
>
>>
>> The strange bit is that most available connectors have different pin
>> count - something like 20x2 or 25x2 - not 22x2.
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> and the 2mm headers are way less common. I guess getting
>>>> these connectors in China is not that much of a problem but getting
>>>> them in most parts of Europe is somewhat challenging.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well, anyway, since Cubietech's main interest seems to be software only:
>>> http://cubieboard.org/docs/
>>> and I've got not time and nerves to dig thru their webforum to collect
>>> parts
>>> for puzzles, sorry,
>>
>>
>> Yes, the cubieboard documentation could improve still but at this
>> point it's quite easy to find and extensive. You definitely don't have
>> to fish in a web forum.
>
>
> No link(s). Noone knows what EXACTLY You're talking of, sorry.

The links to cubiebook.org and linux-sunxi.org are in plain sight
duplicated in both support and resources sections of cubieboard.org.

It's not been always the case but whoever is taking care of the site
is doing decent job and it's quite usable now.

>
>
>>
>>>
>>> I'm taking Olimex as "featured" for hardware projects, my sample request
>>> to
>>> Cubietech is taken back,
>>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Olimex certainly makes hardware hacking easier. After all they are in
>> Europe and tailor their boards to European customers that use parts
>> common in Europe.
>
>
> IDC IDE connectors have been designed in Europe? By who? Siemens?
> Molex has been a U.S.- Enterprise since the 60s.

Being common in an area and being deigned in an area are two different
things. Of course the 2.54 mm connectors are US size. That does not
mean you cannot get an US connector in every other computer store and
every electronic parts store, unlike the 2mm ones.

Thanks

Michal

[Patrick Wood]

2.0mm headers are common in Japan and China. Cubietech is a Chinese company. Get over it.

[Huang Benn]

thanks for your advice and sorry for my late response. Actually, TS module is a bit beyond my knowledge, so I did not know what to say sometimes. But I do remember few months ago, somebody in the community ask for the TS datasheet, And I asked for it from allwinner.

So there is a public TS datasheet with watermark 'for cubieboard only' made by allwinner.

http://cubiebook.org/index.php?title=Main_Page#Docs

http://ubuntuone.com/5tBbYKV0jD2PD7FD6NBEdq

>
> We need at least one more Olimex Ax0 for a linux-dvb / DMA - developer, or 2 Ax0 cubies, I cannot promise I can achieve that alone, and I will take many months if alone,
> anyway, we need the VE for MPEG2/4 decoding DVB- streams, will take months, too, until stable for A20?
> Building the DVB- receiver extension board is easy, most dvb-developers can assemble it in less than 2 hours, if not I would provide a DVB-C board at
> the PCB, linear and connector parts and postage costs, DVB-S is more complex because of the need for a LNB driver circuit (and software driver adaption).
> Even DVB-S2 boards can be build from parts cheap around on Ebay, but this needs stable working high performance DMA and h.264 VE decoding for live TV display.
>
> ...
>
> I hereby [RFC] all (extension) board manufacturers to agree to extension connector pin compatibility in future revisions, at least for the CSI(TS) ports

It's a good suggestion. I think we will consider it of course

> or what else the users and devs interested in, too, and or provide SMT connector adapters (maybe the cheaper way and for older revisions).
>
> This would make business easier for all extension board suppliers, and all claim "Open Hardware", so there's no reason for proprietary GPIO designs.
>
> Y
> tom
>
>

[Huang Benn]

2013/9/13 thomas schorpp <thomas....@gmail.com>

Am 12.09.2013 17:02, schrieb Michal Suchanek:

On 12 September 2013 13:29, thomas schorpp <thomas....@gmail.com> wrote:

Am 12.09.2013 11:36, schrieb Henrik Nordström:

ons 2013-09-11 klockan 20:31 +0200 skrev thomas schorpp:

Cubieboard and OLinuXIno boards uses different extension headers
entirely, both in size, type and pinout.

Olimex A20 uses "standard" 2.54 mm pitch, 40 pins, 2×20 (2 rows of 20 pins)
IDC SMT male connectors (like PATA IDE),
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulation-displacement_connector

Cubieboard male "simple" pin headers typically spaced 0.1 inches (2.54 mm)

2x20,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pin_header

looks compatible, if not  millimetres (0.079 in) or 0.05 inches (1.27 mm)
pitch,
http://blogzs1jen.dyndns.org:83/wp-content/gallery/cubieboard-accessories/breadboard_640.jpg
http://ubuntuone.com/62cLCytl7yfB9ElgIFEeon , p.1,7.

Cubieboard uses something like 22x2 2mm pitch headers. The pin count
is strange

It's not "strange", it looks like typical proprietary closed hardware design to me, like all those
MK8xx, etc, Android boards.

Sincerely speaking，cb0808 is almost exactly the same with cb0909, but with minor fix to the sata. Yes, we can say, cbteam save a little bit change or fix,  which is totally without any technical difficulties. But in china, this is so important to protect ourselves. If you provide PCB layout, you will see many cubie-like boards on the market, then cubie dies, someone survival.

I think cubie is still a friendly member of linux-sunxi, we are trying hard to contribute our effort. You can see many manual written by cubieteam in linux-sunxi with bad English. we are not English-speaking guys but still try hard to write many Chinese English to make us understand.

 

and the 2mm headers are way less common. I guengss getti

these connectors in China is not that much of a problem but getting
them in most parts of Europe is somewhat challenging.

Well, anyway, since Cubietech's main interest seems to be software only:
http://cubieboard.org/docs/
and I've got not time and nerves to dig thru their webforum to collect parts for puzzles, sorry,

I'm taking Olimex as "featured" for hardware projects, my sample request to Cubietech is taken back,
Thanks.

Thanks

Michal

y
tom

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[Wolfgang Wegner]

On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 12:13:45AM +0800, Huang Benn wrote:
>
> thanks for your advice and sorry for my late response. Actually, TS module
> is a bit beyond my knowledge, so I did not know what to say sometimes. But
> I do remember few months ago, somebody in the community ask for the TS
> datasheet, And I asked for it from allwinner.
>
> So there is a public TS datasheet with watermark 'for cubieboard only' made
> by allwinner.
>
> http://cubiebook.org/index.php?title=Main_Page#Docs
>
> http://ubuntuone.com/5tBbYKV0jD2PD7FD6NBEdq

That's great news!
Thank you and Thomas for the effort! I would so love to see Ax0 as the
first real all-in-one device for VDR and such stuff...

Best regards,
Wolfgang

[Alejandro Mery]

http://dl.cubieboard.org/hardware/cubieboard_schematic_2012-08-08.pdf

and the wiki page binds each pin of the extension headers to the
corresponding SoC pin and it's possible MUX values.

http://dl.cubieboard.org/hardware/ has all you need to make your
daughter board that is not generic to all A10 or A20.

regards,
Alejandro Mery

[thomas schorpp]

Thanks.

Can anyone see or tell possible high speed (serial) DVB-TS signal limiting or interfering EMC (printed) components or layout
(for CE conformance) in those files?
Any PSpice data?

>
> http://dl.cubieboard.org/hardware/ has all you need to make your daughter board that is not generic to all A10 or A20.

Has it? Has it got Windows licences, 2GB extra RAM and 3GB extra HDD space -for a viewer- for us, too?
http://images.autodesk.com/adsk/files/dwg_trueview_system_requirements-FY14.pdf

http://usa.autodesk.com/adsk/servlet/pc/item?siteID=123112&id=9078813#

253M 14. Sep 02:06 SetupDWGTrueView2014_ENU_32bit.sfx.exe

$ wine SetupDWGTrueView2014_ENU_32bit.sfx.exe
fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation (nil) 1 (nil) 0
wine: Call from 0x7b8458e0 to unimplemented function gdiplus.dll.GdipCreateFontFamilyFromName, aborting
wine: Unimplemented function gdiplus.dll.GdipCreateFontFamilyFromName called at address 0x7b8458e0 (thread 0009), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: unimplemented function gdiplus.dll.GdipCreateFontFamilyFromName called in 32-bit code (0x7b845932).

335M 14. Sep 02:10 SetupDWGTrueView2014_ENU_64bit.sfx.exe

$ wine SetupDWGTrueView2014_ENU_64bit.sfx.exe
-------------------------------------------------------------^^
fixme:heap:HeapSetInformation (nil) 1 (nil) 0
wine: Call from 0x7b8458e0 to unimplemented function gdiplus.dll.GdipCreateFontFamilyFromName, aborting
wine: Unimplemented function gdiplus.dll.GdipCreateFontFamilyFromName called at address 0x7b8458e0 (thread 0009), starting debugger...
Unhandled exception: unimplemented function gdiplus.dll.GdipCreateFontFamilyFromName called in 32-bit code (0x7b845932).
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------^^

$ rm *DWG*

Anyone got this monster setup and run on recent wine versions or do we've got an OSS viewer anywhere?

Is Autocad and Windows "common" for schematics and PCB design in China and Japan, too?

>
> regards,
> Alejandro Mery
>

y
tom

[thomas schorpp]

Am 14.09.2013 00:07, schrieb Alejandro Mery:

Thanks, but cannot open Autocad files,
CSI extension hardware developers/users, can You tell the maximum signalling/data ratings within CE EMC requirements?