orange pi plus (Allwinner H3 based) has a "Debian server" image available since today

[ma...@markvdb.be]

No sources I guess :-( But maybe something useful to be gleaned from it?

http://www.orangepi.org/downloaded/download.html

Mark

[Julian Calaby]

Hi Mark,

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:29 AM, <ma...@markvdb.be> wrote:
> No sources I guess :-( But maybe something useful to be gleaned from it?
>
> http://www.orangepi.org/downloaded/download.html

Unless source code is provided, it's mostly useless to us.

Thanks,

--
Julian Calaby

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[Julian Calaby]

Hi All,

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Julian Calaby <julian...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Mark,
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:29 AM, <ma...@markvdb.be> wrote:
>> No sources I guess :-( But maybe something useful to be gleaned from it?
>>
>> http://www.orangepi.org/downloaded/download.html
>
> Unless source code is provided, it's mostly useless to us.

Following on from that, looking at the wiki, apparently the Orange Pi
Plus [1] and Orange Pi Mini 2 [2] were supported, however the DTBs and
FEX files are nowhere to be found, so I've amended the wiki to reflect
this.

Both of these pages were made by the user "orangepi" who appears to be
writing pages with claims that devices are supported without actually
following through on releasing the required files and in the process
pointing users to non-sunxi repositories for those files. (I.e. [3] -
[4] has already been fixed)

Do we have a contact at Xunlong / OrangePi we can poke about this?

Finally, is anyone working on support for the H3 SoC?

Thanks,

Julian Calaby


[1] https://linux-sunxi.org/Xunlong_Orange_Pi_Plus
[2] https://linux-sunxi.org/Xunlong_Orange_Pi_Mini_2
[3] https://github.com/orangepi-xunlong/sunxi-boards/
[4] https://linux-sunxi.org/Xunlong_Orange_Pi_2

[Code Kipper]

On 28 April 2015 at 02:54, Julian Calaby <julian...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Julian Calaby <julian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:29 AM, <ma...@markvdb.be> wrote:
>>> No sources I guess :-( But maybe something useful to be gleaned from it?
>>>
>>> http://www.orangepi.org/downloaded/download.html
>>
>> Unless source code is provided, it's mostly useless to us.

Allwinner haven't released the H3 SDK yet. I've asked and I can see that some
H3 related source is in the current repos that they have pushed.

>
> Following on from that, looking at the wiki, apparently the Orange Pi
> Plus [1] and Orange Pi Mini 2 [2] were supported, however the DTBs and
> FEX files are nowhere to be found, so I've amended the wiki to reflect
> this.

The FEX files can be extracted from those images. It looks like this
one is for all variants
https://gist.github.com/codekipper/5cc882b75217aaa53e52#file-orangepi2-fex%7C,
however
I don't see any H3 Debian images.

> Both of these pages were made by the user "orangepi" who appears to be
> writing pages with claims that devices are supported without actually
> following through on releasing the required files and in the process
> pointing users to non-sunxi repositories for those files. (I.e. [3] -
> [4] has already been fixed)
>
> Do we have a contact at Xunlong / OrangePi we can poke about this?
>
> Finally, is anyone working on support for the H3 SoC?

It's on my todo list but I'm sitting back until some source is available.
CK

[Code Kipper]

On 28 April 2015 at 07:11, Code Kipper <codek...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 28 April 2015 at 02:54, Julian Calaby <julian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 10:30 AM, Julian Calaby <julian...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi Mark,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 8:29 AM, <ma...@markvdb.be> wrote:
>>>> No sources I guess :-( But maybe something useful to be gleaned from it?
>>>>
>>>> http://www.orangepi.org/downloaded/download.html
>>>
>>> Unless source code is provided, it's mostly useless to us.
>
> Allwinner haven't released the H3 SDK yet. I've asked and I can see that some
> H3 related source is in the current repos that they have pushed.
>
>>
>> Following on from that, looking at the wiki, apparently the Orange Pi
>> Plus [1] and Orange Pi Mini 2 [2] were supported, however the DTBs and
>> FEX files are nowhere to be found, so I've amended the wiki to reflect
>> this.
>
> The FEX files can be extracted from those images. It looks like this
> one is for all variants
> https://gist.github.com/codekipper/5cc882b75217aaa53e52#file-orangepi2-fex%7C,
> however
> I don't see any H3 Debian images.

AHHHHH......I see them now. I'll have a play with this later today.
CK

[Simos Xenitellis]

On Tue, Apr 28, 2015 at 1:29 AM, <ma...@markvdb.be> wrote:

No sources I guess :-( But maybe something useful to be gleaned from it?

http://www.orangepi.org/downloaded/download.html

Reading the orangepi.org website pages, it appears feasible for someone to get in contact with Steven (see website footer for details)

and talk about these issues.

But please, no gung-ho this time.

Simos

[@lex]

I contacted him and asked for the SDK/BSP, he replied to wait for about a week, that was two weeks ago. So i guess they are still cleaning up some things and are closer to release it.

[ala...@gmail.com]

I have one of these H3 boards (Orange Pi Plus).

I have been able to build a working Linux kernel out of the source code at https://github.com/allwinner-zh/linux-3.4-sunxi using sun8iw7p1. However I could not get wired ethernet (GMAC + RTL PHY) or wireless (RTL8189ES) working.

Is anyone working on mainline kernel support for H3? I can't code but happy to help testing.

[Nick Ludlam]

I've just received my Orange Pi Plus board today, and while I was downloading the Debian server image I noticed that they've released something called "Linux SDK source code" from http://www.orangepi.org/downloaded/download.html

It seems to be a tarball containing a top level directory named lichee/ which contains a 3.4 kernel tree, a buildroot tree, a uboot2011.09 tree and various tools. There's no git history, which makes creating a diff against whatever kernel version it's forked from a pain. 

I'm fairly well versed in building kernels and buildroot systems, but I'm not much more technical than that so I can't really do much with the SDK other than build what it produces.

[Simos Xenitellis]

It is highly likely that it is based on https://github.com/allwinner-zh/linux-3.4-sunxi 

To figure out the changes, you can 

1. Clone the repository at https://github.com/allwinner-zh/linux-3.4-sunxi

2. Erase the working tree (all files and directories inside linux-3.4-sunxi/ but keep the .git/ directory).

You did not destroy your clone repository; what matters are the files inside .git/

3. Untar the downloaded tarball and place the Linux kernel files in  linux-3.4-sunxi/ 

Here you may need to move the files around so that the location of the kernel files match those of the repository.

4. Run 'git diff' and see the changes between the HEAD of the linux-3.4-sunxi repository, and the downloaded H3 Linux kernel source.

Simos

[Steven Saunderson]

On Wednesday, May 6, 2015 at 6:45:56 AM UTC+10, Nick Ludlam wrote:

I've just received my Orange Pi Plus board today, and while I was downloading the Debian server image I noticed that they've released something called "Linux SDK source code" from http://www.orangepi.org/downloaded/download.html

Interesting point about the Orange Pi Debian server is that the boot partition contains uImage only.  No uEnv.txt or script.bin or boot.scr.

Cheers,
Steven