Help Running an Anti Virus - ሥራ የሚፈልግ ካለ

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Belay

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Apr 29, 2013, 4:47:44 PM4/29/13
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Dear Gnu/Linux Team

Can you  run an anti-virus on a laptop on my niece's laptop. She is in a dire need.
My niece will be graduating soon. She suspects there is a virus on her laptop.
Can someone call her at 019129930 and help her. You will be paid well.

ዮብ አሁንም አዲስ አነህን?

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ውድ አጎቴ የማስተርስ መመርቅያየን ፅሁፌን እየጨረስኩ እገኛለሁ ሆኖም ግን ኮምፒውተሬ ውስጥ ብዙ ቫይረስ እንዳለ እና አንቲ ቫይረስም ቢጫንም ቫይረሱን ሊያጠፋው እንደማይችል የኮምፒውተር ባለሙያ ነገረኝ ስለዚህ የኔ በላይ እባክህን  ዶክመንቴን እንዳይበላሽብኝ ሰግቻለሁ አስተካክልልኝ፡፡


Belay

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Apr 29, 2013, 8:57:37 PM4/29/13
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Additional Information:
The laptop of my niece is windows 7. It usually comes with some kind of Antivirus. If you can not find one installed download Microsoft Windows Defender from
http://microsoft-windows-defender.soft32.com/free-download/?lp=adwords&gclid=COXVsauV8bYCFSjZQgodf0MA1w
and just run it. It is free.  Any moron who can click a mouse can do it. It is a stupid operation. Quarantine the find. I don't mind doing it if I get paid and I would charge hefty.

I used to collect windows virus for reverse engineering but not any more. They are too many,  due to large number of  script kiddies. However if you find any linux trojan or virus let me know.
They might come with a make file and that is a treasure for reverse engineering.

tegegne tefera

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Apr 30, 2013, 3:08:10 AM4/30/13
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I think the easiest and lasting solution for your nice is to dual boot linux. In addis there is no way to avoid the virus problem if one is running windows because it is impossible to update the virus software as quickly as the viruses coming in due to slow Internet connection. Even if you have a free anti virus.
In fact this is a good time to initiate her to linux and she may also help others.



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tegegne tefera

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Apr 30, 2013, 3:16:09 AM4/30/13
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or ask her to install teamviewer and you can do it yourself. It would be a bit slow but....
Best solution linux... and no better time to give her the linux flu than when she is vulnerable and scared of her loosing her liefs work. Cruel but worthy it.

In mean time tell her to backup her work on at least two flash disks.


Belay Tekalign

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Apr 30, 2013, 10:22:49 AM4/30/13
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አመሰግናለሁ አለቃ ተገኔ ።
የእሕቴ ልጅ የባክቴርያ (the one fatal to human beings not to the computer) ነገርን ጠንቅቃ ታውቅ እንደሆነ እንጂ የሊንክሱን ሚስጥር የምትረዳ አይመስለኝም ።

However, if she keeps coming to this forum she might get the know how. Dual booting is not an easy task for a beginner so I need someone.  Is Eyob still in Addis? Are you in Ethiopia. You would be the best master.
Master Tegene, if you are willing, I will tell her to invite you the best kitfo you have ever tasted. Don't also, forget my niece is very pretty. Is that a good incentive?
Haha!

Belay


On Tue, Apr 30, 2013 at 12:08 AM, Tegegne Tefera <tefera....@gmail.com> wrote:
I think the easiest and lasting solution for your niece is to dual boot Linux. In Addis there is no way to avoid the virus problem if one is running windows because it is impossible to update the virus software as quickly as the viruses coming in due to slow Internet connection. Even if you have a free anti virus.
In fact this is a good time to initiate her to Linux and she may also help others.

Eyob Fitwi

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Apr 30, 2013, 11:34:31 AM4/30/13
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አለሁ በላይ። ስራ ወጥሮኝ ይዞኝ ጊዜ አሳጣኝ እንጂ። ብተባበራት ደስ ይለኛል። ግን ጊዜ መጠበቅ ሊኖርብን ይችላል። ትምህርት እና ስራ ተደርበውብኝ አድመውብኛል።

እንደተረዳሁት ከሆነ አሁን ኮምፒውተርዋ ያለው መፍትሔ ዳግም መቅረጽ (format) ነው። እኔ እስከማውቀው ድረስ ቫይረስ አንድን ኮምፒውተር ከተወሰነ ደረጃ በላይ ከበከለው ምንም ጸረ ቫይረስ ሊያስተካክለው አይችልም። ነገር ግን መጀመሪያ የፋይሏ መጠባበቂያ ወይም ምትኬ ትስራ (backup)። ካስፈለገም በሁለት ሶስት ቦታ። እንዲያውም አንድ ቅጂ ወደ ኢንተርኔት ትስቀል (ኢሜይል ላይ በማያያዝ፣ Dropbox፣ ወዘተ)። ቅድሚያ ሊሰጠው የሚገባ ነገር እሱ ነው። እንደተረዳሁት ከሆነ ደግሞ ፋይሏ እንዳይበላሽ ነው የሰጋችው እንጂ ገና አልተበላሸም መሠለኝ። እሱ ካደረገች በኋላ ያለው መፍትሔ ይታያል። በተረፈ ላፕቶብ ከሆነ ወደ ኢንተርኔት ቤት በመውሰድ ጸፈ ቫይረሱን እያዘመኑ (update) መታተር ነው። አለበለዚያ ኑሮ አይቻልም።

ኡቡንቱ አብሮ የመጫን ነገርም ይታያል። እኔ እንዳየሁት ከሆነ በኮምፒውተር ጉዳይ ላይ የተለየ ነገር ለመጠቀም ያለው ዝግጁነት ከሰው ሰው ይለያያል። እስቲ ሁኔታዎ ይመቻችና ያሉን አማራጮች እናያቸዋለን። ግን እንዳልኩት ፋይሎቿን አሁኑኑ ምትኬ ትስራላቸው።

tegegne tefera

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Apr 30, 2013, 12:58:06 PM4/30/13
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ኣዝናለሁ በላይ።  እኔ ኣዲሳበባ ውስጥ ኣይደለሁም። እዛ ብሆን ብረዳት ደስ ባለኝ።  በውነት ነው ቆንጆ ስለሆነችም ኣይደለም ፦) ። የዑቡንቱን ኣስሊዋ ላይ የመጫን ጉዳይ ግን ከሷ የተሻለ ሰው ኣይገኝም። ኮሌጅ ተማሪ ኣመቱን ሙሉ የሰራችው ስራ እንዳይጠፋባት የምትፈልግ ከሁነችና ኣስሊዋ ከመቼውም ጊዜ በላይ በፍጥነት እንደሚሰራና ስራዋ ላይ ምንም መጓተት እንደማያስከትል ካወቀች ስጋቷ እንዲጠፋ የማትፈልግበት ምክንያቱ ኣይታየኛም። እዮብ እንዳለው እንደገና ማሟሸት (format) ካስፈለገም ሁለቱንም ገዢ ስርዓቶች (operative systems) ለመትከል ጥሩ ኣጋጣሚ ይሆናል።

Belay Tekalign

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May 1, 2013, 4:21:31 AM5/1/13
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Tegene:
You will be amazed how much I stressed the importance of BACKUP. I don't know if she followed my advice. I invited her to this forum to tell us about it.
I was going to work it out myself via Team Viewer. She is not that techy to install it and the network speed is murder. Last time I surfed the net with a modem was in 1998. Some of you guys were not born or were kids.
The computer these days are graphic intensive. Forget about Team Viewer. I can't even make a proper telephone call. There is this nasty bot who says "The network is busy ... please call back" . One time I really wanted to build a virus that changes her voice to say " My friend Belay, you can call as long as you can, I am your virus infected friend". You know what - Your Telecom might not even notice it.

I am worried about my niece at the moment.

Tegene: Care to look at her

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-QswKs_CUE

Hope you have the bandwidth

Belay Tekalign

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ኢዮብ ።
ተጨንቂያለሁ ። እባክህ ደውልና አግኛት ። ኢሜይሉን እንኳ የምታነሳው አይመስለኝም ። የኰምፒተር ነገር ጨለማ ይሆንባት እንጂ ሌላ ትምህርት ጮሌ ነች ። ለጊዜው ዝም ብለህ ደውል ። በሚመች ጊዜ መገናኘት ይቻላል ።

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2013/4/30 Eyob Fitwi <eyob....@gmail.com>

Belay Tekalign

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May 1, 2013, 5:03:38 AM5/1/13
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 ዳግም መቅረጽ (format) ነው

 ነገር ግን መጀመሪያ የፋይሏ መጠባበቂያ ወይም ምትኬ ትስራ (backup)
 እንዲያውም አንድ ቅጂ ወደ ኢንተርኔት ትስቀል (ኢሜይል ላይ በማያያዝ፣ Dropbox፣ ወዘተ)።
ጸፈ ቫይረሱን እያዘመኑ (update) መታተር ነው
ኡቡንቱ አብሮ የመጫን ነገርም ይታያል።

Job buddy:
Are you sure this is Amharic? ወደ ኋላ እንደ ቀረሁ ተረዳሁት ።

I think I better say it in English. The most important thing in the laptop is the document. You see, Mr. Job,  graduation is near. She can't afford to wait longer.

I have stressed many time to make a back up of her documents and I think she might have some stashed. I told her to put even on Google Docs, but the network speed won't permit that. I told her to keep a copy in the University. She might have done that. If any of the files are clean, don't even bother about the rest. Wipe out the laptop and make it a dual boot. She needs to get used to Linux, therefore you have to hold her hand. It is not something I can teach her by remote. If there is a school or if you do have some business, enroll her in your class.

Consider this as a job, I don't mean your name. I meant work, so don't be shy how much you charge. How about a two month salary? It is negotiable if you need more. You help me I help you. That is how we should operate. I don't know how much is a month salary? If it is more than mine, then I need money to pay rent... Otherwise I will be homeless.

Belay


2013/5/1 Belay Tekalign <belayt...@gmail.com>

tegegne tefera

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May 1, 2013, 6:19:54 PM5/1/13
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ሰላም በላይ
ይህንን በመሰለ ሁኔታ ድምጽና ምስልን በአስል ማቀነባበር ከቻለች ዑቡንቱን መትከል የምያቅታት አይመስለኝም:: አሳማኝ ምክንያት መስጠት ብቻ ነው ካንተ በኩል የሚጠበቀው:: የለፋችበትን የመመረቂያ ጽሑፍ ማጣት አስማኝ  ምክንያት ይመስለኛል:: በነገራችን ላይ አዋቂ ልጅ ትመስላለች:-)

Belay Tekalign

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May 2, 2013, 1:32:53 AM5/2/13
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Tegene:
I will pass your comment. I thank you on her behalf. Due to the holidays (Easter) she won't have internet access, and that includes email. Bummer! It is like living on the moon! I think they have internet on the space, don't they?
Belay

tegegne tefera

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May 2, 2013, 2:53:07 AM5/2/13
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Belay:
I consider myself an open-source evangelist. There fore I would not be serving my call if I don't say this. You are making an awful excuses. I am almost certain your nice has a mobile phone that is capable of accessing Internet. You will find a good one produced (i should say assembled) in Ethiopia for about US$60.00. And she would be as free as a bird.
I have to emphasize she is a collage student who has a real interest in being free from viruses. She may even be able to help others. I will not lecture you more but I think you should make a little more of an effort to give her the blessing of freedom. 

How am I doing as an evangelist?:-)

Belay Tekalign

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May 2, 2013, 3:05:39 AM5/2/13
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I hear you buddy. No doubt about your Evangelism. St Paul and St Peter might learn a thing or two from you from your tenaciyy. we will do something about my problem. It is good to see this board glittering like a Christmas tree with such lively comments. All for one and one for all Vive le France

Belay Tekalign

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May 8, 2013, 2:35:43 PM5/8/13
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ለሁላችሁም ።
መታስብያ የሻይረሱን ጉዳይ መፍትሔ አግኝቻለሁ ብላ ኢሜይል ላከችልኝ ። ለትብብራችሁ እጅግ አመሰግናለሁ ።
በላይ

Dawit Habtamu

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May 9, 2013, 8:32:22 PM5/9/13
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I know I'm joining this conversation VERY late. Nevertheless, it was fun to read what I could on my android device (without the Amharic). Work here is so busy and tight!

I absolutely would install Ubuntu on her computer (at least dual boot!) How did she resolve the problem? Just curious.

Cheers
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Belay Tekalign

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May 10, 2013, 12:43:06 AM5/10/13
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Good to see you Dawit. Tell us what kind of Android device you have? My Droid Bionic is now two years old and I am ready for a new one. I am thinking of Samsung Galaxy Note III (not released) I saw Samsung Galaxy Mega. It is huge at 6.3 inch. They call these large mobiles phablets. http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_mega_to_hit_the_stores_of_philippines_in_june-news-5987.php . The boundary between tablet and a phone is being erased. The future for desktops and latop is gloomy. We basically can work with our phone without going to office. What is this world coming to?

Dawit : My niece didn't tell me how she resolved the virus issue. Since this is thesis defending time, I didn't pressure her. She is not on top of emails so I have to wait. I still doubt she can handle dual boot. Perhaps with Eyobs help.


Belay

tegegne tefera

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May 10, 2013, 3:48:00 AM5/10/13
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I must say we have lost an opportunity to free a sister. Never mind we will get her next time:-).
I would love to change My incredable S (htc) but it has reasonably every thing (including Amharic) that i feel guilty to do. So i decided to wait. There is also the firefox and ubuntu phones that supposed to come this year. I do think android needs a bit of competition. So far from what i read I like the freedom and lightness of firefox and the complete echo system integration of ubuntu.  I read rave reviews about samsung and the specification is one of the best. But there is always this cheap design imitation and childish sounds and graphics puts me off. True every one imitates but some do better than others.

Belay

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May 10, 2013, 10:29:35 PM5/10/13
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Tegene:
I don't think we have lost an opportunity to free a sister from the clutches of MS$. I will nag her to switch attitude to open source after her graduation in a month or two.
Belay

Teferra

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May 14, 2013, 1:40:47 AM5/14/13
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I still think a perfectly good opportunity to blackmail someone in to linux is lost. Think about it. A girl scared of loosing her entire final thesis for virus!!! could not get any better.

Belay Tekalign

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May 14, 2013, 2:01:28 AM5/14/13
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Tegene:
Don't despair!

My niece will be your first convert from Windoze$ cage to Linux openness. I sent her a link to read on Lubuntu, because the light weight version, devoid of bells and whistles , is more responsive. We will see how it goes after her graduation.

Here is what she said about the virus issue.
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ይድረስ ለውድ አጎቴ

እንደምን አለህ የኔን የኮምፒውተር ችግር ለመፍታት ብዙ አንደለፋህ አውቃለሁ አመሰግናለሁ፡፡ ነገርግን አሁን ያ ሁሉ ችግር ተፈቷል የኮምፒተሬ ችግር ምን መሰለህ ፤ የተጫነው አንቲቫይረስ ጊዜው አልፎበት ነበር ፤ በዚያ ላይ ፋይሎቼ በሙሉ  ‹ሲ› ላይ ነበሩ አናም ፎርማት መደረግ ስለነበረበት አጠቃላይ ፋይሎቼን ወደ ሌላ ምፒውተር ገልብጦ ነው የሰራልኝ ሁሉም ፋይሎቼም አሉ፡፡ እንደገናም ኮምፒውተሩን በ3 ከፍሎልኛል ቲሰሴንም ከሳምንት በኋላ እጨር


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