Installed and started yesterday V220_R563 on the PC for WSE and on the PC for Funcube.
Both Units running via directly input. WSE with around 16dB Input level and Funcube with 20dB
NB is a round 10%.
WSE - PC stop working by itself.
Reload the last files - but I cannot reproduces.
http://ade-vertrieb.de/files/gabriel/120416_2135_end_no_reproduced.rar
I restart it ..some later I saw a trace in the waterfall - but I get no decode.
I was on .144.111 ... 112 was a decode
http://ade-vertrieb.de/files/gabriel/120417_0942_nodecode_111.rar
At the Funcube I have same problem - saw a trace no decode.
112 decode - 111 nil
http://ade-vertrieb.de/files/gabriel/120417_0942_nodecode_111_IQ.rar
Best 73 de Carsten
I need to try to understand why MAP65 sometimes terminates abnormally in
your setup, while I cannot reproduce the problem here.
DM1CG wrote:
> Installed and started yesterday V220_R563 on the PC for WSE and on the PC for Funcube.
> Both Units running via directly input.
I guess this means on one PC you have WSE receiver coupled to MAP65's
soundcard input, no Linrad being used. Is this correct? Which
soundcard? What input device? If there is more than one option, have
you tried another input device (ASIO, WDM-KS, etc...) ? How often does
the abnormal termination occur? Does it happen at any particular time,
during the Rx sequence?
On another PC you have a FUNcube. In this case I do not understand what
you mean by "via directly input". You must have Linrad, SDR-Radio, or
something else talking to the FUNcube, and sending data to MAP65 as
network packets? Or something else?
> WSE with around 16dB Input level and Funcube with 20dB
> NB is a round 10%.
Why NB=10% ? Have you tried with NB off? Is there anything you can do
that increases the probability of a program termination?
-- Joe, K1JT
Hello Joe
<<I guess this means on one PC you have WSE receiver coupled to MAP65's
<<soundcard input, no Linrad being used. Is this correct?
YES
<< Which soundcard?
DELTA 44
<< What input device?
normaly ASIO - MULTI, sometime i tested with MULTI (WDM-KS)
<< If there is more than one option, have you tried another input device (ASIO, WDM-KS, etc...) ? How often does the abnormal termination occur?
<<Does it happen at any particular time,during the Rx sequence?
Yes , i only RX .
>>On another PC you have a FUNcube. In this case I do not understand what
>>you mean by "via directly input". You must have Linrad, SDR-Radio, or
NO - Funcube as 96000hz Input Soundcard. Working fine .
>>something else talking to the FUNcube, and sending data to MAP65 as
>>network packets? Or something else?
No Network - direkt input, maybe The program isnt made for that , but it run normaly very well
here - automaticly decodes down to -26.
With Linrad / SDR Radio i dindt get that results
>> WSE with around 16dB Input level and Funcube with 20dB
>> NB is a round 10%.
<Why NB=10% ?
I get the Tip that that will be work best
<Have you tried with NB off? Is there anything you can do
Tested before,
<that increases the probability of a program termination?
-- Joe, K1JT
best 73 de Carsten
MAP65 version 2.20, revision 574 has been posted on the WSJT web site.
Startup instructions and a download link can be found at
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/map65.html
Changes since MAP65 r563 include the following:
1. Support for setting user parameters on the FUNcube Dongle (freqency,
gain, filters, etc.) has been added, accessible from the Setup menu.
2. The optional 2D Spectrum has been moved to the lower waterfall panel.
This makes it possible to keep the top waterfall running during the
process of I/Q calibration.
3. Fixed a bug that could cause abnormal program termination under some
conditions, when using direct input from a soundcard or FUNcube Dongle.
(Please report if you still observe any such terminations!)
4. Starting to implement processing similar to that done in Linrad, up
to the "timf2" stage. This includes a first forward FFT (using
overlapped data blocks and sin^2 windowing), I/Q amplitude and phase
corrections, identification of frequency ranges containing strong
signals, first backward FFTs separately for strong and weak signals,
noise blanking applied to the the weak signals, and recombination of
strong and weak time-domain data. (At present, the only consequence
visible to the user is that signals stronger than a certain threshold
are colored red in the 2D Spectrum. More to come...)
Now is a good time to convey to me (or remind me about) your "wish list"
of features that might be added to MAP65. Your reports and suggestions
are extremely helpful!
-- 73, Joe, K1JT
Hello all.
Someone here in the list , who understand and speak german ?
Need someone to discuss some function and problems with MAP65 / Linrad.
Best 73 de Carsten
DM1CG
73..Jordan VE6ZT
On 4/18/2012 5:08 PM, w6sz wrote:
> Hello Joe,
>
>
> It appears that the MAP65 2.20 rev 574 installation does not finish,
>
> I have no receiver sound card connected at this point ( want to use
> FCD )
>
> I see in the DOS window installation
>
> \system32\cmd.exe
>
> \MAP65\fftwf-wisdom..................eif74088 cib512000 ( last
> statement )
>
> and there it appears to, stop/hang.
>
> I tried this 3 times.
Better that you should read the installation instructions, at least once.
They can be found at the link under the heading "Documentation" at
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/map65.html
The link is labeled "Quick Start Guide for MAP65 -- Read this first!"
In particular see instruction #3:
3. On the final screen of the installation wizard you will be offered a
chance to run a program that configures optimized FFT routines for your
particular computer. Choosing the first (default) checkbox will be
adequate for most purposes, and will result in an optimization process
that takes a few minutes. Later, you may want to run the batch file
"wisdom2.bat" in the installation directory to gain a small additional
speed advantage. This second-level optimization may take as long as an
hour. Wait until the optimization procedure finishes before proceeding.
-- 73, Joe, K1JT
Refresh your browser, in case it has cached an older version of the page.
The instructions are at
http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/MAP65_Beta_Release.pdf
The installation package at
http://www.physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/MAP65_220r574.exe
-- 73, Joe, K1JT
w6sz wrote:
> I connected the Funcube Dongle and MAP65 is receiving from the
> FCD.afterall.
>
> Remains the optimization, done perhaps already or not needed or not
> possible for this computer?
Without optimization there will be a speed penalty. But you might
hardly notice it.
> Also, I put the demo files in the "save" directory.but can not find/
> open them as the program
> is looking for.iq files and the demo is a .tf2
That's because you have configured MAP65 for a single polarization. If
you check "Xpol", it will look for and read .tf2 files.
Perhaps I will post a *.iq file, one day.
-- Joe
The first time was totally painless.. the Flex has a very well balanced and
calibrated IQ output, so it's pretty nice right out of the box that way...
Thanks for fast answer. I see now that I have other
problems with this particular computer ( 3.2GB and 512 MB )
MAP65 will run with the dongle for for a few minutes and then
stops running. This must be a shortage of memory. CPU load
never higher than about 15 %. I will fix that.
Thanks on the demo file extension point. Understood.
73 Rein W6SZ
-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe Taylor <j...@Princeton.EDU>
>Sent: Apr 18, 2012 9:55 PM
>To: lin...@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Linrad] Re: MAP65 V220_r574
>
> My first wish would be to be able to make MAP65 run under Linux. I have no
> idea if this would be a complex request or not ...
It has been possible to run MAP65 under Linux for a long time. I do not
always make click-to-install packages, because there are too many
"flavors" of Linux. But the original versions (MAP65 versions 0.9
through 1.2) are not hard to compile, and they have always run well
under Linux.
The recent versions (2.0+) also compile and run under Linux. I don't
spend much time testing in Linux, though, because the demand has been
very small.
So: the code is available, but making it work on your system is up to you.
> I have a side question :
> With MAP65 V2.x, we do not need to use LINRAD any more. But I wonder if
> LINRAD's processing may be of some help in some noisy area, or special QRM
> conditions ?
Definitely YES, at present.
If you are trying to receive weak JT65 signals in the presence of
impulsive noise, with one or more very strong signals somewhere in the
90 kHz passband, Linrad will do a better job than recent versions of
MAP65 (e.g., r574). As indicated in my message sent yesterday, I am
starting to implement the necessary code to bring MAP65's noise-blanking
up to the standard established by Linrad.
-- Joe, K1JT
On 4/19/2012 11:44 AM, Edson W. R. Pereira wrote:
> Is the source code for MAP65 2.0+ available for download? If so, I would
> like to try it under Linux.
The SVN repository for MAP65 2+ is presently on my personal Linux
machine. You can check out the latest code with the command
$ svn co svn://pulsar.princeton.edu:/home/joe/svn/map65/trunk trunk
With all necessary compiler tools in place, you can compile library
libm65.a and decoder m65 with the commands
$ cd trunk/libm65
$ make -f Makefile.linux
Then open map65.pro in QtCreator and compile map65 from there.
You will probably need to readjust some paths in makefiles to suit your
system.
At present the only code known to be not working in Linux is function
set570(), used to set the Si570 synthesizer frequency in the IQ+ and
SoftRock receivers. Some other behavior under linux may be untested.
Except to make sure it compiles on Linux from time to time, I am
spending my time on Windows.
A Linux screen shot is attached.
-- Joe, K1JT
MAP65 version 2.20, revision 578 has been posted on the WSJT web site.
Startup instructions and a download link can be found at
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/map65.html
If you know what you're doing, a direct link to the installation file is
http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/MAP65_220r578.exe
Changes since MAP65 r574 are minimal, but they might be important to you:
1. Revision 574 mistakenly left the IQ calibration procedure
disconnected. Thanks to W2DBL for catching this omission!
Normal behavior has been restored.
2. The waterfalls are no longer inactive for the 12 s at the end of a Tx
sequence. Normal waterfall action during this period makes it much
easier to distinguish between JT65 signals, which should not be present
then, and birdies, which are usually continuous. Thanks to HB9DRI for
this reminder!
-- 73, Joe, K1JT
Thanks much for contacting me.
I know about the problem and hope to be able to improve the situation with
running the dongle from batteries, At the moment a 15 ft USB cable to a laptop,
( not the optimum ) Indeed it is not trivial at all in this DC type of receiver.
The little receiver has quite an effective way to decrease the peak.
They are using 2 socalled DC settings, one marked I and the other Q.
and by optimizing and going back and forth between the I and the Q settings
the problem can be attacked. With the other packages I can measure signal
strength. Off the corrected situation the center peak is some 30/40 dB above
the basic noise level, when corrected it is is just a few dB. It is of course
not just a peak, the garbage around the peak is still there.
So I am looking forward to play more with the Dongle on VHF/UHF
My problem with the control section for the Dongle in MAP65 was that the
settings are different by a factor of 100. I like to be using the dongle with
Map65 but also with other programs such as HDSDR, Winrad, Spectravue, Linrad
There are numerous packages now.
I can now switch between MAP65 and HSDSR with out changing the center peak
suppression. And it is quite good compared to the Softrock for instance.
Have build quite a few of those over the last couple of years.
SM5BSZ did some critical measurements on them. Results on his web pages.
As far as the Funcube dongle goes I was reluctant to get one quite frankly.
I am not sorry now getting one. They are a lot of fun.
I like to go out to a a quite palce and just listen to the atmospheric noise
free fro all the birdies etc. And it is just a laptop the dongle and some antenna.
The first thing I did was monitoring a weak beacon here on 1296 and it as as
good as with my TS-2000X, frequency stability is fine etc. There is a big
drawback and that is they have little filtering up front. But fortunately
is is not such big problem so far. I have a lot of ground noise here on
2 meter and have really only a vet narrow quiet window.
There is another application and that it to run at at around 65-70
MHz and tap into the first IF's of many transceivers such as the FT-817
Have often been looking at your X-pol yagis on your web page.
73 Rein W6SZ
-----Original Message-----
>From: Earl Shaffer <wb9...@gmail.com>
>Sent: Apr 20, 2012 12:56 AM
>To: lin...@googlegroups.com
>Subject: Re: [Linrad] Re: MAP65 V220_r574
>
FFT-optimizations with the lightest (first) wisdom-option takes nearly 10 minutes
to complete. Factory delivered firmware of FUNcube was not recent enough to
allow full recognition of the FUNcube dongle, but after installation of 18j-firmware
everything seemed to work fine. I have no specific EME/144 antennas at present.
Cheers/73, "Zaba" OH1ZAA (Bermuda/VP9 HF/50MHz from May 7th to May 13th)
P.S. Did change email recently, so my yesterday's posting did not make it to the group
Joe Taylor [j...@Princeton.EDU] kirjoitti:
> To: MAP65 users
> From: Joe Taylor, K1JT
>
> MAP65 version 2.20, revision 578 has been posted on the WSJT web site.
>
> Startup instructions and a download link can be found at
>
> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/map65.html
>
> If you know what you're doing, a direct link to the installation file is
>
> http://physics.princeton.edu/pulsar/K1JT/MAP65_220r578.exe
>
> Changes since MAP65 r574 are minimal, but they might be important to you:
>
> 1. Revision 574 mistakenly left the IQ calibration procedure
> disconnected. Thanks to W2DBL for catching this omission!
> Normal behavior has been restored.
>
> 2. The waterfalls are no longer inactive for the 12 s at the end of a Tx
> sequence. Normal waterfall action during this period makes it much
> easier to distinguish between JT65 signals, which should not be present
> then, and birdies, which are usually continuous. Thanks to HB9DRI for
> this reminder!
>
> -- 73, Joe, K1JT
>
>
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Yes it looks ugly but it is not so bad, and you will still see signals in that area.
For a lot of applications one can zoom in on the left or right part of the spectrum and
still have 40 KHz or so "clean spectrum". One gets of course only signals detected from
that part of the spectrum.
No it does not change with the antenna. I took those spectra with the antenna disconnected.
Actually with an antenna connected, it might look not as bad as there are could be other signals.
A friend of me asked me to help him with the FCD and SDR-radio ( another very nice package )
With features such as Doppler tracking on the cube satellites. There they have a feature that
the computer makes the correction. The consider the peak a spur (spur reduction ).
Same result as doing it manually though.
With this funcube, I will try to clean it up by using a separate 5 V supply, well filtered etc.
What system are you using? Home brew? I think I saw you in the past talking about the WSE units? They
are of course the standard.