Hello.. this is just what the question is asking... I have a large number of child keywords that have been inadvertently listed under a parent. I want to move them from being a child to be a top level but if I try to drag and drop them from out from below the parent, they can only go into another top level keyword and can't be a top level themselves... any ideas?... thaks...
Perhaps it is just your word description, but a "slot" does not open, or expand the keywords apart. It will only be the feint highlight to see that determines 'where' your keyword drops in the hierarchy.
The place to drop the keyword has to be highlighted- and that is the subtle detail- To place it to a top level you need to see a fine highlight line between other 'parent' keywords, or at the top of the Keyword list (it will sort alphabetically).
Yes, that is how the "science" is supposed to work... but I've had to turn it into a low tech video game as there is no rhyme or reason as to when the slot will open. Some folders will not open it no matter how much it lingers. Some groups won't open the slot but then if I drop two or three folders then the slot will open. And then when I grab one of the folders that was in the last group that wouldn't open the slot, then the folder will open the slot... then I grab another from the group but it won't open the slot.... the slot seems to be very tempramental and seems to reject larger files or larger groups more than it does folders with 1-5 photos in it.... not a very efficient way to move keywords... I think it's going to be a 2-3 hour process!
Can you try to move a keyword that has say 300 photos in it and see if the slot opens and also try to grab about 20 keywords with maybe 100+ photos and see if the slot opens?.... those larger ones(and some of the smaller ones) are giving me a lot of trouble...
Are you on Windows and do you have a very large number of keywords? Windows LR has a long-standing bug that causes the Keyword List panel to go wonky when more than about 1500 keywords are being displayed in it (keywords in collapsed parent keywords don't count).
If this might apply to you, try completely collapsing all top-level keywords -- hold down Alt when you click on the triangle to the left of the keyword. Then as you incrementally expand the hierarchy to rearrange it, it's more likely that less than 1500 keywords will be displayed at any one time.
I have about 1500 and most are top level... I've been moving my identified people into children under "people" keyword.... but again, not all the named people keywords can be moved from the child position and once I do have them all moved and close the de-expand the "people" keywords, they'll be less than 100 which is only going to keep me up a little below 1500. In the modern world, you wouldn't think that 1500 text keywords would be a problem!!
One trick for making it easier to drag-and-drop keywords, regardless of whether you're encountering the 1500-bug, is to type the source keyword and destination keyword in the Search box of the Keyword List panel, e.g.
The grey highlight that would indicate where a keyword would drop as it is dragged, is VERY feint. A poorly calibrated monitor may not show the difference between the 'drop zone' and the normal grey background of the keywords.
thanks ..... it works absolutely fine with some keywords and not at all with others... and when it does work, it works fine! So it seems to me that it's something to do with the individual keywords and something to do with them... the 1000+ that did work were very easy to do and the slot opened up but the ones that don't work just won't open the slot... it will only highlight on or the other of the top level keywords.... I have about 50 keywords now that just won't work... not matter what... so I'm opening up all the photos and removing the "
I had Chinatown under Locations. I had the same issue - could not move up sub-keyword in hierarchy. I changed the name for Chinatow_1 and boom! On that occasion Chinatown_1 appeared near another Chinatown (with 2 photos only) which I forgot about. I opened all the photos in Chinatown and changed the keyword for Chinatown_1. Then removed empty Chinatown so the system allowed me to change the name of Chinatown_1 back for Chinatown. Of course it would be easier just to change all pictures with Chinatown_1 to Chinatown then empty Chinatown_1 can go to hell (no need to change name again) but I did not sleep long enough and did that mistake .
I am very methodical so tried as many different ways to achive this with about 10% success rate. It appears that newly made (or edited) or made with a newer version of LR, keywords do not 'seem' to exhibit the dropping inbetween problem. Time is important so the quickest way to do this with older keywords is ...
2) Move keyword as suggested by the clever Rob Cullin (No entry icon should change to rectangle and when moving a narrow highlighted line should appear between parents, drop on to this line)
A client or collaborator has selected, lets say, 200 images from a shoot of 5000. I need to output those 200 files. The easiest way to do that is if they can email me the file names and then I can enter those file names into Library>Find in LR and then tag or flag those photographs. But how do they export a list of those filenames?
I think the only way to do something like that is to Flag or Rate the selected images, Export them as a Catalog making very small JPG files. But as for you using that to find those exact files in the original size I don't think there is a way to do that.
The problem with having to use a plug-in / script etc is that it's not the photographer needing to export the file list, it's the client. It's not feasible to have clients purchase something like John Beardsworth's plug-in.
I do know it is possible to use Library>Find to find and then star/flag a large number of file names. So what I need is a simple way for the client to be able to share that list of file names with me.
If the HD does not return, they maybe could create a collection of the wanted images, select the collection and "Export as a Catalog" , then send the Exported Folder with catalog back to you. This catalog could be exported only with 'previews'.
This would be my recommendation too, though there's no need for them to send back the previews. If you then want to use File > Import from Another Catalog to bring those choices into your own catalogue, you will have to be sure they don't enter metadata that Lr can't distinguish from metadata you might add. For example, if they make an adjustment, it'll come into your catalogue.
As you are both on CC, you could consider using Lightroom Web (lightroom.adobe.com). Share a collection with them, let them choose or "favorite" images in a browser, and their choices will automatically appear in your catalogue.
But a quick way to get the file names from a selection in Lightroom is to drag the selected thumbnails into a text editor. Be sure that the editor is set to plain-text and you should get all the path + file names of the selection.
Listing file names should have been a default function in LR but it is one of many holes and shortcomings of Lightroom we turn a blind eye to and waiting for a day that competition force them to work for their money!
PS: You can even put this command into an automator action and create a service (eg. "make selection list") which accepts directories. Then, all you have to do is rightclick the directory and chose "make selection list".
Just search for "automator service shell command" to get instructions.
Meanwhile, I was able to further improve the command. The command "pbcopy" copies the output directly to the clipboard. Therefore, one can save the detour via the text file. Only available on Mac, of course.
For a single-line output:
Second. (be careful), you have to access that folder where all your photos are, ok ?. Outside the lightroom program obviously. from the file browser in windows or mac (finder) and change the name of this folder where they are from those images.
Now you will see in lightroom the folder with a question mark and all the images contained in them with a sign of admiration, because you have changed the name of the route pointed by the lightroom catalog. ok?
then do not be afraid, click on "save as" and choose the desktop to save it with a file name like it could be selected_images. Lightroom will create a TXT file, as if it were an error report or log, that we will interpret as the selection of photos.
We swear by PicFlow.com. It allows me to easily send folders to clients and once they have flagged or started or even used the set of color flags- I can export that list logged in as the creator and then use this plug in deceived below to copy and paste in the list of files into Lightroom.
Keywords are customer-added image metadata that describes the contents of a photo. They help you identify, search for, and find photos in the catalog. Once applied to photos, keywords can be read by Adobe applications such as Adobe Bridge, Photoshop, or Photoshop Elements, or other applications that support XMP metadata.
In the Grid view, photos with keywords display a thumbnail badge . All keywords in the catalog are viewed in the Keyword List panel. You can add, edit, rename, or delete keywords at any time. When creating or editing keywords, you can specify synonyms and export options. Synonyms are related terms for keywords. When you select photos that contain keywords with synonyms, the synonyms appear in the Keywording panel when Keyword > Will Export is selected.
Keywords can contain other, nested keywords. For example, the keyword animals might contain the keywords dogs and cats. The keyword dogs, in turn, might contain Australian Shepherd, Border Collie, and so on.
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