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noc...@gmail.com

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Aug 23, 2012, 9:36:53 PM8/23/12
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Love your neighbor, like yourself. The secret to Torah on one foot.

This concept perplexes me to no end and I really want to discuss this.

Let's say that I am a person that is highly committed to this concept, and that I want to do it, and I try to do it with all my effort. I invite you to try, I suspect, like me, you will find that you can't do it. The root of the problem is that I don't even know how to treat myself. If I treated you, like I treated myself, I don't think you would really like that very much.

Also, what if you were doing something against the rules, and were getting away with it, but it was wrong. Yet, you were profiting from it, and your family was profiting from it. All the time I'd know that the right thing to do would be to blow the whistle... would I do that to myself ? NO.. Would I do that to you... NO... so how do I know how to follow this rule ?

Let's say that you are hurting me. Do I hurt you back ? Would I do that to myself ? 

What if you were causing yourself pain ? Do I stop you ?

How do I even know how I should be treating myself ? If I knew how to do that, then I'd be perfect ! So if I don't know how to treat myself, how do I know how to treat you. Since I am controlled by ego, I am just going to do what I "think" but that's definitely wrong.

If I already knew how to treat myself, I'd be perfect. This is the root of the issue. Once I've corrected myself, I am then able to correct you (inside me). But how ?

The question becomes, how do I love myself so that I can love my neighbor. Then I ask, who is my neighbor, is it israel, or is it everyone ?

Thank you.

yosef

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Aug 24, 2012, 12:35:56 PM8/24/12
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Big discussion.. Refining oneself also helps our friends
"Good friends and deeds, with prayer and smiles, make for a life of miracles!"
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 21:36:53 -0400
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noc...@gmail.com

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Aug 24, 2012, 1:44:58 PM8/24/12
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It's a big discussion but there's one question:

How do we follow this rule / advise / law or whatever you want to call it.

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yosef

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Aug 24, 2012, 1:49:11 PM8/24/12
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Accept others.. Have extreme patience w:others
"Good friends and deeds, with prayer and smiles, make for a life of miracles!"
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 13:44:58 -0400
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noc...@gmail.com

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Aug 24, 2012, 2:01:07 PM8/24/12
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So here's the fun part I'm taking about.

Does this mean you accept and have patience with yourself ?

When you don't, do you share that same threshold when excersizing patience with others ?

See the issue here, when you equate others with yourself, others then inherit the uncorrected nature of of yourself. So is this really a good rule to follow ?

How do we fill in the blanks so we can properly follow this rule ?



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yosef

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Aug 24, 2012, 2:03:29 PM8/24/12
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Yes.. Learning to be accepting of our great(!) Imperfections is the agenda
"Good friends and deeds, with prayer and smiles, make for a life of miracles!"
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:01:07 -0400
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noc...@gmail.com

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Aug 24, 2012, 2:08:07 PM8/24/12
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If I were to treat you like myself, I'd say...

"I want a better answer from you"

yosef

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Aug 24, 2012, 2:09:50 PM8/24/12
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:-) I'm near empire state blding.. Just be happy I didn't shoot anyone :-)
"Good friends and deeds, with prayer and smiles, make for a life of miracles!"
Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2012 14:08:07 -0400
If I were to treat you like myself, I'd say...

"I want a better answer from you"

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