Joshua Michael Schrei: A Lie Repeated - The Far Left’s Flawed History of Tibet

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wanghx

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Apr 10, 2008, 10:49:45 AM4/10/08
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Oddly enough, in contrast to the Chinese government line that it was the
Tibetan peasantry who readily embraced communism, communism was in fact
much more popular - as it is in this country - among the educated elite.
The Tibetan communist party was a creation of sons of wealthy
aristocrats; the Tibetan peasantry on the other hand were the ones who
eventually formed the brunt of resistance to Chinese government rule.

这也符合中共国的情形。太令人深思了。

http://studentsforafreetibet.org/article.php?id=425
这篇文章反驳 耶鲁学者 Michael Parenti 关于西藏问题传播中共的谎言。http:
//www.studentsforafreetibet.org/article.php?id=424

而传播中共谎言的,恰恰是学富盛名的耶鲁政治学家,历史学家 Michael Parenti
这人是不是成功之后就开始肆无忌惮信口开河呢?反驳他的这个文章作者却是无名
小卒。
Joshua Michael Schrei 需要做的,是进一步完善他的反驳文章,追加参考文献。

http://beijingwideopen.org/my-beijing-videoblog/
Comment from HanWarrioR
Time: March 16, 2008, 7:41 am

Hey Tibetans, check out some history on Dalai Lama

http://www.michaelparenti.org/Tibet.html

Comment from josh schrei
Time: March 16, 2008, 8:33 am

Michael Parenti doesn’t know thing one about Tibetan history. He
approached the Tibet issue as a Maoist sympathizer and everything he
writes on the subject is uttterly biased. His works shouldnt even be
regarded as ‘history’ as they are basically opinion pieces. Here is my
response to Michael Parenti’s ridiculous article…

http://www.studentsforafreetibet.org/article.php?id=425

If you want some real history, read Dragon in the Land of Snows by
Tsering Shakya. And if you want to start trading historical barbs about
‘who’s worse’, we’ll find a lot more blood on the hands of the Chinese
government than the Tibetan, I can assure you.

But the larger question, HanWarrior, is why a govenment that has gone
out of its way to try and convince the international community that
Tibetans are actually Chinese, aren’t more sympathetic when 100 of their
‘own people’ have been killed? Why have their been no statements of
regret about life lost? Why is the entire country on media lockdown? Why
are they more concerned about making sure everyone knows the Olympic
torch will still go through Tibet than about the lives lost? The answer
is simple. Despite all the Chinese government’s rattlings about one
people, one China, they DON’T CARE ABOUT TIBET. They KNOW that Tibet is
a separate country and they treat Tibetans not as citizens but as
occupied neighbors. You can throw around as many internet articles as
you want. It doesnt change the simple fact that Tibetans are clearly not
content with Chinese rule, they are rising up, and there is nothing you
or anyone else can do to stop it. Truth cuts through lies. And
propaganda can’t cover up an entire nation’s suffering for long. Time
will tell.


wanghx

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Apr 10, 2008, 12:12:35 PM4/10/08
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Joshua Schrei 用讽刺口吻指责 Michael Parenti 以虚假的学术研究论文形式传
播谎言:

What surprises me most about the far left's flawed take on Tibet is how
quickly a piece of propaganda turns into 'scholarship,' how a piece of
hearsay becomes fact if given a footnote. [1]

但是我认为 Joshua Schrei 很值得花一些时间修改他的文章,追加参考文献来
源。这一学术规范恰恰非常有助于快速接近真相。因为,我就是阅读 Michael
Parenti 的文章时通过他引用的参考文献,发现他所依赖关于59年前的西藏酷刑的
认定,所依据的报道,其最终来源都是中共在 59 年镇压西藏之后的谎言宣传,这
对于判读其结论的可靠性,非常重要。

我还发现 Michael Parenti 尽管提供了参考文献,但是并没有按照习惯列出文献
的发表时间。这隐藏了巨大的问题。因为,我查核发现,他所依赖的关于 1959 年
前西藏酷刑迫害的那些指控,来源于 Strong 等人的报道。而 Strong 等人的报
道,都是在 59,60 年,中共镇压西藏后所设的“农奴诉苦会”“酷刑展”等地方“采
访”得到!

这是什么学术作风?!任何对中共国有一点点起码的常识的人,都会知道,刚刚镇
压完西藏的 59, 60 年,一个外国记者在那里能看到什么“真相”。

我以前就知道有不少外国学者支持中共反对达赖,但是一直没有时间去仔细阅读原
文,虽然总想找时间看看他们的独立研究成果。今天一看,令我目瞪口呆,虽然在
我的意料之中,其符合我意料的程度,却在我的意料之外!

正如科学研究的方法学,是“explore the expected unexpectables 探索已知的未
知”,或者意料之中的意料之外的新发现。:) 对 Michael Parenti 的文章阅读结
果就是如此一个意料之外的巨大收获。我本来带着可能学到什么新的反对达赖版西
藏新信息的想法,看到的居然出乎我的意料,那些所谓的学术研究报告,居然全盘
是中共的宣传多次被转引变成的!

请大家记住如下几个学者的大名:

Anna Louise Strong
A. Tom Grunfeld
Roma and Stuart Gelder
Michael Parenti

以及他们对中共国的巨大贡献,应当颁发一级铁十字勋章。:)

Joshua Schrei 开篇引用据称是毛泽东的话“谎言重复一百遍就成了真相”,但是我
没有找到出处。

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History of Tibet


sharpspot

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Apr 15, 2008, 12:14:27 PM4/15/08
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其实也不难看出来阁下也不是也在用感情去评判这些史料?还有你反驳的的证据是多么的苍白。
2008-04-16

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