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Nadia Summerhill

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Aug 4, 2024, 2:13:27 PM8/4/24

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Heres my issue: I'm trying to edit a PDF and the Helvetica neue choices that are in my Adobe don't offer the medium or the ten others in the family. I cannot edit to match the document. I try to download the helvetica neue I have in the Mac, on a CD, in a folder and all I get is "denied" from Adobe. In fact, if I search Helvetica neue in the awesome Creative Cloud for Adobe I get "font not found." So, what gives? How do I "just simply" add the family I have in my computer. Apparently the hurdle, or hoop, depending upon where you are in the rabbit hole, is that my font ends in ttc instead of ttf. But the one that is from 1995 which is linotype, ends in ttf.

The issue you may be facing is the Type 1 Fonts are being deprecated, and Helvetica Neue had a Type 1 version. Photoshop (where you posted) has already dropped support for Type 1. I'm not sure about Acrobat. I also don't know if your version actually is Type 1 or if the issue is that the typeface is not embedded.

Here's a screen capture. The information appears to be identical to the information described in the fonts I mentioned that I can substitute and edit. Occasionally something shows up that says Type 1. According to File>Properties>Fonts, this particular document has like 25 fonts used. It only used three. I guess there are some hidden where I have been highlighting and testing?

Note that if you decide to purchase Neue Helvetica, the $39 price is only for a "desktop font" that you can see on your screen, use in documents, and print to your personal desktop printer. If you want to embed the fonts in your PDF (which normally you want to do), there will be an additional licensing fee for each publication or edition of a publication. Per weight.

I have an OTF package of Helvetica Neue and I had installed it, but every time I opened a file which contained some text using Helvetica Neue, Photoshop or Illustrator displayed that "resolve fonts" screen. All files I downloaded including mockups, layouts, icons and others which were using HelveticaNeue, there wasn't a match with their "helveticaneue" and the one installed on my computer, and those Helvetica Neue variations are always the same.

So, my question: Are there "standard" files for Helvetica Neue? Sounds like every designer in the world uses the same Helvetica Neue (a TTF version maybe) and I just can't find a file that matches the most used one. I downloaded Helvetica Neue from a lot of sources on the internet but they come different, then I have to see that annoying screen asking me to resolve fonts missing.

Fonts are not public property, there are bought, sold and controlled like any other art or tool. If you want the real Helvetica Neue you can get directly from the foundry that created it - -originals-library.html

I didn't know MacOS already came with it, Windows doesn't come neither with Helvetica Neue nor standard Helvetica. It's not about being an "authentic" file or having the original font bought from its founder, it's about avoiding a "missing fonts" notice.

I understand completely, it's a constant problem. Any artwork you receive from a designer should be packaged with the fonts they used so for your immediate problem it may be best to let the designer know you need the fonts. For the long term problem, there's no solution really. You can turn on 'font substitution' but that lends itself to an entirely new set of problems, a major one being having to do typesetting everything from scratch again. There are about 5 billion versions of every font made by random people available for free and then there are the originals, crafted by the foundry.

It depends on your needs. If your just needing to print something submitted to you then all you need is the font the designer used. On the other hand, if your the designer then it matters more and OpenType tends to be more flexible, allowing more typesetting and finessing, alternates, ligatures, etc.

Allowing another designer access to fonts for the same projects and packaging fonts with projects are both perfectly acceptable. Did the files you downloaded include fonts or not? If they did then you just need to install them and use them, if they did not you need to ask them for the fonts so you can finish the project. It's that simple. And no, there isn't just one single standard Helvetica Neue anymore, there is the original Neue Helvetica from Linotype I posted in the very first reply. Others are legitimate remakes or variations, and a lot are knock-offs and pirated copies.

No, you didn't understand. When I say "designer" or "websites", I was referring to websites that everyone can download assets from, like dribbble, freepik, behance etc. For example, I've downloaded a psd with all elements of Bootstrap UI, such as buttons, tooltips etc, but I have seen that who works on a Mac usually uses Helvetica Neue, like you've said me that it already comes with Mac, which is great and Mac fonts are very better than those that come with Windows, I just use Windows because Macs in Brazil cost higher than a Camaro in US.

Anyway, when I download a UI, a mockup, a set of buttons or whatever else, they usually come with Helvetica Neue, so it's a top popular font as I can see. I have around 4 options of versions of Helvetica Neue, but they are not the same when they are installed, I mean, every version appears different on Photoshop fonts list, and when I open a file where Helvetica Neue was used in, Photoshop "prompts" me to resolve "missing" fonts. Like you've said, that's an annoying pain really.

There are differences just between various versions of Helvetica Neue. That was our corporate font, and when we switch from Win XP to Win 8, we had to get a new version what worked with Win 8. Then all my text files had the same problem you're having. I feel your pain, but not sure there is much you can do.

Gotcha. I was under the assumption you were downloading project materials from a firm, agency, etc. So we're right back where we started - it can be a constant problem and there is no solution other than buying a version that you like to use in place of all the hack versions. People make their own fonts all the time and name them whatever they want, there may well be 100,000 versions of Helvetica Neue out there for all I know. Frustrating.

If you're not interested in purchasing it then there is positively no solution for you. You will simply just have to deal with having multiple versions on your machine. I purchased the entire family from Linotype about seven years ago and have never messed with another version since. Linotype: Neue Helvetica font family. Authentic, genuine and a little expensive but worth it.

Yes, I think that there is no better option than buying the original, doesn't matter if is a font, a software or anything else. The problem is that everything in Brazil costs a whole life and after that it's possible that you're still in debt. In summary, I will "resolve" the missing fonts by picking an option for each them which Photoshop says that is not installed, that's the way...

Completely forgot about doing this for you, sorry. Anyway, here are screenshots of of Neue Helvetica installed on this very machine in Photoshop 2017, if these screenshots are NOT what you were after then carefully and clearly explain what you're wanting to see and I'll post it back up.

First image is just FYI, only showing the macOS version in case you were curious. Two other Helvetica Neue families from Linotype are listed immediately below it - 'Helvetica Neue LT Pro' and 'Helvetica Neue LT Std'.

The version of helvetica neue condensed roman I have doesn't match the bold version in big sur. Why have Apple not included roman condensed in the neue family? Does anyone know where I can get the font please?

Due to mounting license costs, Apple just cannot add every font that users think they should, nor remove the hundreds of fonts that are irrelevant to most of us. LinoType (and MonoType) offer extensive Neue Helvetica Condensed families, but there is no reference to any "roman" member. Also, I do not find any reference to a condensed "roman" hand available for download from any of the free font sites.

It's an Agfa tt font which also has helvetica condensed bold in its family but it conflicts with the apple version. I've tried all ways of disabling the apple version but it's impossible in big sur, even through terminal. I'm really annoyed as I've just bought a new imac and updated my software. I've been a professional mac user since system 6 but the idea of padlocking the fonts is an absolute nightmare for a graphic designer.

I am fully conversed with the mounting license costs, I've been buying fonts for the last 30+ years. The roman (regular) version of a font is the most used by professional graphic designers for body copy. I think it's an oversight by apple to not allow fonts to be disabled, especially for professional users. This problem isn't a small one for me, I now have to think a way around this for a 552 page catalogue. I'm not happy, I feel like I've wasted my money buying a new imac and updating my software just to find I can't control my font usage. Apple seem to have forgotten their professional customers, some of whom, like me have been with them since the late 80s.

I am wondering if you drop the Agfa Monotype font into your local Library Fonts folder (/Users/username/Library/Fonts), whether you can then visit Font Book and see if it will give you a choice of which duplicate to use? Have a feeling it won't make you happy, though.

Font book won't allow any changes to the fonts apple installed. My version of the bold font displays okay but is ignored when outputting the file. I even disabled SIP in terminal to see if I could remove condensed bold but it still wouldn't let me access the fonts.