E. vulture with ring

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Guido Ceccolini

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Jul 28, 2024, 1:53:57 AM7/28/24
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Dear Colleagues,
on July 26, 2024, a young Egyptian vulture 4CY with a ring was photographed by Mr. Paolo Niccolai in Italy.
 
The Egyptian vulture was flying very high so the photo is not very clear.
 
Does anyone recognize the ring?
 
Best regards
 
Guido Ceccolini
 
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Álvaro Camiña

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Jul 28, 2024, 5:12:41 AM7/28/24
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Hi Guido 
The ring seems very blurred.  Does the observer noticed any of the  letters / numbers ? 
Best 
A. 
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Ron Efrat

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Jul 28, 2024, 5:26:06 AM7/28/24
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Hi Guido,

I can't even see the color of the ring. Any chance the observer noted the color?
We (in Israel) use rings that look the same size as this one and we ring the birds on the left leg like in the photo, but almost all our EV have GPS tags and we have no birds in Italy (unless the tag fell or not working).

Best,
Ron

Guido Ceccolini

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Jul 28, 2024, 5:41:47 AM7/28/24
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unfortunately the vulture was flying too high to recognize any letters or numbers.
 
Best
 
Guido

Guido Ceccolini

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Jul 28, 2024, 5:47:11 AM7/28/24
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Hi Ron,
unfortunately he only noticed the ring by zooming in on the photo, the bird was too far away to see the color anyway.
 
Thanks for the info.
 
Best regars
 
Guido
 
 
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Volen Arkumarev

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Aug 1, 2024, 2:35:19 AM8/1/24
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Hi Guido and all,

It is definitely not a bird from Bulgaria as we do not use colour rings on Egyptian Vultures since 2010.
Hopefully, the bird will be seen again somewhere in Italy, it is very intriguing where it came from

Best regards,
Volen

Zuberogoitia Iñigo

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Aug 1, 2024, 3:02:06 AM8/1/24
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Dear Guido and colleagues,

This code does not belong to our EVs (Northern Spain).
Best regards,
Iñigo

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Mohammad Asghari Tabari

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Aug 1, 2024, 5:12:50 AM8/1/24
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Hi Guido ,

An NGO named NABU does some ringing activities on birds  including Egyptian vulture in Eurasia .I met them in a conference in Kazakhstan. They may have some information about these rings.

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Mohammad Asghari Tabari 
Bird Expert
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Sergey Sklyarenko

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Aug 1, 2024, 6:28:36 AM8/1/24
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Hello,

No rings like this were used in Kazakhstan.

All the best,

Sergey

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Massimiliano Di Vittorio

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Aug 1, 2024, 8:12:47 AM8/1/24
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Hi
I suspect, considering the probable combination of ring color and code color, that it may be a specimen marked in France
Massimiliano Di Vittorio


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Cécile Ponchon

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Aug 1, 2024, 8:45:48 AM8/1/24
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Dear all,

It’s quite hard to be sure of the color of the ring, and the number of digits…  It could be a white one…

In France we use white ring with a 2 alpha-numeric code in south-east and white ring with a 3 alpha-numeric code in Pyrénées.

 

In Spain, it seems that there is also a program with white rings…

https://cr-birding.org/node/2527

 

It is therefore risky to conclude….

 

Best regards

 

Cécile

 

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Houssein A. Rayaleh

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Aug 1, 2024, 9:30:52 AM8/1/24
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Hi everyone,

As the color of the ring is not easy to see it... there is a MM... Little bit visible, so maybe as we tagged a juvenile Egyptian vulture in Djibouti in February 2022 with rings MM... looking alike, maybe my friend and colleague Mike McGrady probably in cc to these exchanges, can say a word on it.

All the best,
Houssei

erick.ko...@wanadoo.fr

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Aug 1, 2024, 9:49:49 AM8/1/24
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Hi, I already had answered to Guido,   but just to remind ; in France, rings are white with 3 digits in  french pyrenean  nucleus population ( and always the letter ‘’P’’ )   and 2 digits in Sout-east  french nucleus population .

 

Thus, 4CY is not a french ring

 

Best, 

Erick  

 

 

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