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Trevor Watkins

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Mar 31, 2013, 2:58:11 AM3/31/13
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Our municipalities are doing such a good job already, how could this possibly fail?

http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2013/03/30/dotty-davies-gets-ready-to-close-up-shop/

Paul Hjul

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Mar 31, 2013, 5:28:32 AM3/31/13
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I had a brief look at the act last week but have honestly not had a chance to interogate the Bill adequately to write anything about it. In my personal capacity I most certainly will be making submissions which will probably be incredibly brief and targeted exclusively on the inherent contradiction of the legislation and its unsuitability to existing incorporation legislation (pushed by the same DoTI in 2008) however it is not the first item on my to do list by a long shot.


From a Jbay perspective the Bill would be deadly for Jbay and if moved close to enactment it would be necessary for the JBRA together with FEKRRA to seek mitigation measures to prevent this office from resembling town planning and just about everything else at Kouga.

From a South Africa perspective the Act is part of an agenda of centralizing power and undermining individual freedom it is likely to lead to public violence - consider that it was enforcing a law almost identical to this one which triggered the Arab Spring - and is in my view (and no doubt the view of many others) a wholly unconstitutional infringement on economic freedom and an absolute undermining of property rights.

Paul


On 31 March 2013 08:58, Trevor Watkins <bas...@gmail.com> wrote:

Our municipalities are doing such a good job already, how could this possibly fail?

http://www.thoughtleader.co.za/williamsaundersonmeyer/2013/03/30/dotty-davies-gets-ready-to-close-up-shop/

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Paul AH Hjul

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Apr 15, 2013, 7:07:49 AM4/15/13
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I am busy trying to put together a first draft of submissions on this blasted bill. A particular argument I wish to raise is that because the Bill is unenforceable it is unjust. Unfortunately I lack the time and energy to scour for a cogent poignant quote/authority for the argument. Anybody with an encyclopaedic recall on all things regulatory capture, economics of law and trivialty to brutality able to assist?  

Jaco Strauss

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Apr 15, 2013, 8:07:58 AM4/15/13
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An angle you could perhaps consider is the link between unenforceable bills and corruption. The threat of selective enforcement helps to grease the palms of unscrupulous enforcers.

More red tape provides more opportunities. A search for related terms (unenforceable "red tape" corruption) brings back some useful studies in this regard...

Jaco

  


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Stephen vJ

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Apr 15, 2013, 1:18:01 PM4/15/13
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What if it is enforceable, but at incredible cost ?

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Stephen vJ

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Apr 15, 2013, 1:23:27 PM4/15/13
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The constitution says that property can only be appropriated by the state only if it is to be used for the common good. It might be a stretch to say that taking time and effort (which compliance will certainly cost) is a kind of tax. But if you could, it is very simple indeed to show how the application of it is contrary to the common good.

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Gareth Brickman

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Apr 16, 2013, 8:47:06 AM4/16/13
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Paul AH Hjul

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Apr 18, 2013, 3:08:53 PM4/18/13
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I suspect that most members of this group are not Avaaz supporters but those of you who are please consider http://www.avaaz.org/en/petition/Stop_Reinstatement_of_Old_Era_Apartheid_Law - if possible before midnight - to meet the 500 signatures mark the creator set. It seems the Vegter article has spurned some opposition to the Bill. 

Emailing the unfortunate official charged with receiving submissions could if nothing else frustrate the Department.

Writing a blasted submission set is proving exceptionally painful but I will meet the midnight deadline - spelling and grammatical errors inclusive

Paul AH Hjul

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Apr 18, 2013, 6:00:11 PM4/18/13
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Attached is my submission set - really terribly assembled and while I've been sitting with it for a while at the end a rush job. My main objective is to ensure that it can't be said that the bill did not receive opposition. On the whole its a bad bit of work but there are some "sound bites" and it catalogues a few things
Hjul, Submissions.pdf
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