Affirmative Action and Ineptocracy

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Lorna Auld

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Mar 19, 2012, 6:29:45 AM3/19/12
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LONDON TIMES - QUOTE OF THE WEEK

 

Interesting point of view Affirmative Action: "South Africa is the only country in the world where affirmative action is in the favour of the majority who has complete political control. The fact that the political majority requires affirmative action to protect them against a 9% minority group is testament to a complete failure on their part to build their own wealth making structures, such that their only solution is to take it from others."

Finally, a word recently coined to describe South Africa's current political situation.

Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc'-ra-cy)

- a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers.

 

 

 

Mark Heaton

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Mar 19, 2012, 6:51:50 AM3/19/12
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This is an old quote attributed to a non-existent newspaper ( it is called "The Times" - not "London Times" ) !

 

It has been repeated frequently (see here in the economist July 2011...  http://www.economist.com/node/18904136/comments )
 
It is most likely an extract from a blog or a letter. It is not anywhere in the Times archives - which it most certainly would be if it were an editorial comment.
 
I make no comment on the substance of the quote - merely that dubious references detract from its credibility.
 
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Douglas Shaw

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Mar 19, 2012, 7:02:49 AM3/19/12
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Has the Times ever been called the “London Times” , the Herald used to be the “Glasgow Herald” and the Guardian was the “Manchester Guardian”.

 

 

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David Joffe

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Mar 19, 2012, 10:10:49 AM3/19/12
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Times

"For distinguishing purposes it is therefore sometimes referred to,
particularly in North America, as the 'London Times' or 'The Times
of London'"

Sounds to me like it's quite legit to refer to it as 'London Times';
it seems to be in common usage as a colloquialism, and even a Google
Search for "London Times" takes you straight to their website, so
even dumb computers know you're talking about the Times if you say
'London Times' ... I think it's fair to say it 'exists'.


On 19 Mar 2012 at 13:02, Douglas Shaw wrote:

Mark Heaton

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Mar 19, 2012, 10:19:53 AM3/19/12
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OK - assuming that the "London Times" does exist and is now known as The Times ...there is still no reference to that quote in its archives - so to use that as the source for the reference is according a higher importance to the opinion expressed. It is most likely to have been a contribution from a blogger or a letter writer not attached to The Times at all (in my opinion).
 
If you Google that quote - you pick up many many repetitions of it in various media - most of which still use "London Times" as the source.
 
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Hügo Krüger

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Mar 19, 2012, 10:59:50 AM3/19/12
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The quote is also wrong, Malaysia also offers widespread AA .

Julian le Roux

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Mar 19, 2012, 3:37:47 PM3/19/12
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Yes, Malaysia's AA policy was a major reason for Singapore breaking away in 1965 (hint hint to all the SA secessionists)

Hügo Krüger

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Mar 19, 2012, 5:57:27 PM3/19/12
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I just hate quoting misquoted or simply wrong quotes. It kinda destroys the entire merit of the argument.

Trevor Watkins

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Mar 21, 2012, 7:48:32 AM3/21/12
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South Africa is the only country in the world where affirmative action is in the favour of the majority who has complete political control. 
Highly unlikely that the venerable Times would allow such a blatant grammar failure to pass.

Trevor Watkins 



Mark Heaton

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Mar 21, 2012, 8:02:30 AM3/21/12
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Trevor!!

That grammar is correct !

"the majority" is singular hence "has" is correct.

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Mar 21, 2012, 8:04:43 AM3/21/12
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The grammar is correct. There is is only one majority.

Trevor Watkins

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Mar 21, 2012, 8:58:13 AM3/21/12
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Actually, both forms (singular and plural) seem to be acceptable, depending on whether one is referring to "the majority of people" (plural) or "the majority" (singular). I prefer "have" (it just sounds better) but concede that both are correct.

Trevor Watkins 

Mark Heaton

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Mar 21, 2012, 9:03:46 AM3/21/12
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Without wanting to be anal about this, i would contend that "the majority of people" would still take "has" ?

Bryanlever

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Mar 21, 2012, 9:43:23 AM3/21/12
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Therefore it should read "majority which has" being in the singular. In the collective plural sense it would read "majority who have"
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Date: Wed, 21 Mar 2012 14:04:43 +0200
Subject: Re: [Libsa] Affirmative Action and Ineptocracy

Trevor Watkins

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John Pretorius

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Mar 22, 2012, 6:07:50 AM3/22/12
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Perhaps we should ask The Times what they would have said if they had

 

John R Pretorius

Ron Weissenberg

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On Mar 21, 3:43 pm, "Bryanlever" <oble...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Therefore it should read "majority which has" being in the singular. In the collective plural sense it would read "majority who have"

And all along, I thought the error was 'Affirmative Action' instead
of Affirmative Inaction.'

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