Fwd: some analysis of two judges (NFL Nationals 2011)

[Nate Wong]

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Date: Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:25 PM
Subject: Fwd: some analysis of two judges (NFL Nationals 2011)
To: Nate Wong <njwo...@gmail.com>

Here is some stuff, I'll forward some other stuff, and reply to your email also.

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Subject: Fwd: some analysis of two judges (NFL Nationals 2011)
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Here is some more info about the codes and how we analyze judges.

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Date: Wed, Jun 1, 2011 at 12:10 PM
Subject: some analysis of two judges
To: Dylan Groves <dylang...@gmail.com>



some comments about a few judges


01J112 - Randy Mitchell, Science HS

This guy is not a true circuit judge, and is more "reasonable" than circuit judges.  He appreciates good debate - to us, good debate means debaters who explain more, who use common sense more, while still following general circuit guidelines, but diverging on stuff that doesn't make sense in circuit.  He's not going to just vote for cards with no explanation.  He loves great debaters that explain super concisely and powerfully.   When he says he hates "theory dumps that are blippy",    he doesn't like tag words/jargon that is in place of good explanation.  He's always going to favor the debater who knows he knows what's up but also does the right explanation so we definitely want concise overviews, an extra sentence here or there to concisely/directly say the important conclusion ("This means that all of our allies would NEVER cooperate, because we xxx ..."

04J130 - Omar Abdel-Hamid, Parkway West HS

This is a young former debater.  The danger here is that they think they know more than they do.  With these judges, it's important to do two things simultaneously that might seem contradictory - (1) make sure they feel like you think they're a great judge, super smart, (2) make sure that you never debate in a way assuming that they know what they are doing.  The trick is to add an extra line of explanation here and there to make sure you're clear, don't use jargon by itself (always add a phrase that is not like league - "inherency is blah blah blah") - but still always adds more insight that contextually also explains what you are saying ("That means we outweigh" should either be translated, or add a because ... that shows what you really mean by that you outweigh).  For speed, you should go medium fast, enough hopefully that he doesn't think your'e going slow, but still be super clear and slow down on tags and be very good at being slow and clear and concise on explanations that are key.   Dont' assume he will flow every answer 100%, so make sure that you are clear/emphasizing on the important points.

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Date: Fri, May 20, 2011 at 9:57 PM
Subject: Fwd: NFL Nationals Code Sharing Project
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Codes as an example, more info below, attached are judge paradigms, as an example

-Hoon

Now here are the codes as of 7:15PM:

107    Cassville—Zach Harris & Evan Wolfe

112    Ladue—Bell/Middleton
113    Ladue—Lite/Kane
118    Mead—Kevin Ma & Mike Ma
119    Edina
120    Glenbrook South—Richard Day & Will Thibeau
123    Wooster—Mara Weber & Maggie Eby
124    Whitney Young—Misael Gonzalez & Kevin Hirn

134    CR Washington—Tracey Cook & Sharon Kann

137    Reno—Nathaniel Haas & Jonathan McGuire
142    Clear Lake—Jenny Le & Kiersten Strachan
144    Bingham HH
145    Bingham—Madison Rodabough & Hayden Warren
145    BIngham RW

147    Cheyenne East—Bergene/Petrisin

148    Cheyenne East—Berry/Falzone

150    Montgomery Bell—Campbell Haynes & Hershel Mehta

154    Hutchinson—B & M
162    Parkway South—Collier/Liang
169    Millard West—Ryan Markus & Shane Adams
170    Millard West—Kirsten Blagg & Jaritza Medina
171    Parkview
172    Appleton West—Colton Karoses & Jordan Swanson
174    Damien—Berggren & Velto
175    Damien—Ehrlich-Quinn & Gannon
181    Dexter—Canniff & Hosford
185    Heritage Hall—Kennedy & Panchal
186    Heritage Hall—Holsted & Shear
190    Aberdeen CEntral—Friedrichsen & Heirigs

191    Sioux Falls Lincoln—Kirsten Craft & Nishita D'Souza

195    Puyallup—Alysia Lohman & Matthias Jallits

197    Gunn—Kariyawasam/Nimkar
198    Gunn—Shuey/Wu

209    Baltimore City College—C & N

213    Los Alamos—Seth Jennings & Kathy Lin

214    Los Alamos—Ryan Marcus and Gannon Nelson

215    Charles Page—Shane Benjamin & Kevin Mitchell
216    Charles Page—Elizabeth Fairless & Nicole Turvey
218    Watertown
222    Hallsville BH
223    Hallsville CG
224    Raytown South—Shepard & Sprick
232    Eagan—M & S
240    Kent Denver
241    Loyola—Morgen Olson & Tristan Paguio
246    Rowland Hall AF
247    Rowland Hall NW
248    Rowland Hall DS

249    Vermillion—Tyler Gutman & Sam Miller

250    College Prep—Givan/Mardjuki

251    College Prep—Penikis/Trafton

252    College Prep—Pai/Yamamura

255    Greenhill PP
261    Newark Science
262    Hawken—Eby/Macklis

267    Leland—Shriya Samarth & Brian Yeh

276    La Salle—Brian Higgins and Greg Porter
277    La Salle—Jim Benischeck and Josh Thorn

280    Marquette—Matt Cekanor & Tyler Thur

288    Henry W. Grady—Michael Barlow & Holden Choi
290    University
292    Greenhill GR

295    Nicolet—Abby Loxton & Jason Schwartz

I'll add districts/states/names now that the rush has died down.

Still a long way to go, so keep 'em coming.

~Bill

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From: Bill Batterman <billba...@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: NFL Nationals Code Sharing Project

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Thanks much to Tim Royers, here's an updated Paradigms book. Awesome!

Further proof that infoo sharing is great.

~Bill

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:34 PM, Tim Royers <roy...@gmail.com> wrote:

The NFL put an updated PDF on their website, but its not the easiest to get to.  All the judges who lacked codes in the printed off packet are highlighted with yellow in this pdf.

-Tim Royers
Millard West

On Sun, Jun 13, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Bill Batterman <billba...@gmail.com> wrote:

If anyone has a contact in the tab room, is there any chance we could get an updated list of judge codes? There are like five pages of judges in the philosophy book without codes attached to their names... I've never seen that before. Preparing for debates is kind of hard when you only know they're "from" California or Missouri or whatever, especially because they could be hired from an entirely different part of the country.

If you know judge codes that aren't in the philosophy packet, please send them to me and I'll include them on future updates.

For shame, NFL!

~Bill

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Nate Wong

USC '12, B.A. International Relations

Legal Clerk at Wolf, Rifkin, Shapiro, Schulman, & Rabkin, LLP