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2010/10/26 shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com>
hi Alex��
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PS: Alex we might want to have a brief phone conversation about the programs when you have time
thanks,
Shanshan
2010/10/25 Lets Help China <letshe...@gmail.com>
Shanshan,
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Alex--
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:21 AM, shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,
I was thinking about design our programs all with an education purpose. Such as build a moving library for the migration workers instead of giving them money directly. The mission of a small NPO should be clear and simple, at least at the beginning. Regarding the extreme poverty, I could think of the weakest of weak families in the rural area, such as kids who lost parents, grandchildren living with grandparents, single parents families, families with disabled members. We need some brainstorming on this since I have never lived in the countryside and might have a biased picture. I can do some research during the weekend to see what is being done currently by other NPOs in China.
Thanks,
Shanshan
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Lets Help China <letshe...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Shanshan,I've finished the first program "future leader" based on "creating opportunity for young and talented". Can you write the second one based on the mission " reducing extreme poverty". I think the most important part for this program is how to identify the "extreme poverty" population and how we can more effectively help them other than by simply giving them money.Please let me know if you will accept this task and when.Thanks a lot.Alex
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/NewYork/31937223.html
还是设计2个项目吧。
例如shanshan提出来的第二个项目"帮助贫苦学生完成9年义务教育"这个项目资金需求量相对第一个项目来说很小,很多贫苦山区一年给个几百块rmb就可以够一个小孩的生活费了。这个项目主要是追求"数量"的impact,而第一个"future leader"项目主要是追求"质量"的impact。
Hi,Alex, Shanshan,
呵呵,wonderful job,我们第一次见面提出的“Help future leader” (学习优秀而又家庭贫困的高中生),是有几个考虑:1, 突出我们的特色;2, 我们的组织刚成立,需要做一些可行的项目 (范围小点,可操作性强);3, 帮助这些 “futhure leader” 能够帮我们的组织起到立竿见影的宣传效果(我们虽然不是商业机构,但是仍需要marketing,否则没有资金来源),其次帮助“future leader” 可以放大资金的社会效应 (因为一旦他们成才,能力很大,他们也许能帮助更多的人)。
对于shanshan同学的提议,我非常赞同的,作为一个ONG,需要有普世的价值观,无论什么人,只要需要帮助,我们都应该在我们的能力范围内去帮助。其实,可以把shanshan的计划放在future plan里面。 这是一个权衡,我们现在刚成立,资金和人力都不够,所以需要确定一些特定的群体,并发挥资金的最大效用,等我们成长以后,我们就可以如shanshan所说的,去设计比如"第二个项目:为扶助山区最贫困家庭的孩子完成9年制义务教育" 等。
Best luck!
舒展
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:56:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [lets-help-china-project] to do by Shanshan: programs design
From: letshe...@gmail.com
To: lets-help-c...@googlegroups.com
"第二个项目可以设计为扶助山区最贫困家庭的孩子完成9年制义务教育"---这个项目可以做,"教育是通向自由的唯一出路",这个比其他资助的方式好。就是设计的时候最好突出一些和现有的ngo所做的不同的地方,主要还是方便以后给捐赠者展示好拿钱。第一个项目的特点是让这些受捐助的学生最后有机会出来美国读书,这些学生一般学习刻苦,日后很有可能有成就,如果能出一两个特别突出的人才,这对我们的组织来说是非常好的宣传和回报。那我下班后找个时间给你电话吧。
Alex
2010/10/26 shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com>
补充: 关于之前提到的mission " reducing extreme poverty ",周末查阅过农村贫困人口报告,目前大致的看法都是对有劳动能力的家庭尚可实行“造血”,对极端脆弱的家庭只能进行 “ 输血” 。“造血”需要比较大的资金投入和人力投入,还需要当地政府的合作,对我们来说很困难。只有资助孩子上学能够在长远看来间接实现“造血”。(我不知道各位的理想有多大,其实将来我们可以通过扶助教育植入很多小计划,比如“辅导员计划”来进行一些对future chinese citizen/leader的改造)
2010/10/26 shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com>
hi Alex,
你说得很对,图书馆那个只是一个例子,因为 project design直接关系到我们以后的运作和宣传,我是想怎么能够让我们的missions更鲜明更统一 (比如把重心都放在教育上,我个人觉得比起直接发钱给穷人更有意义,因为你不是在一次性的帮助,而是在做或许会改变人一生的事情)。如果我们的第一个项目是扶助贫困而优秀的高中生/大学生,第二个项目可以设计为扶助山区最贫困家庭的孩子完成9年制义务教育。当然这方面的ngo很多,但是需要帮助的孩子也还是很多。我可以这几天研究一下如何找到我们的specialty. 如果大家同意这个方向我本周内会把program design写好。
PS: Alex we might want to have a brief phone conversation about the programs when you have time
thanks,
Shanshan
2010/10/25 Lets Help China <letshe...@gmail.com>
Shanshan,
你的想法挺好的,我想等我们的组织以后有实力了一定可以做。我的想法是刚开始可能筹钱有一些困难,加上刚开始的组织,估计人员安排培训什么的也需要时间调整,所以项目设计就不能太复杂,这是为什么我想一开始就是给受捐助者直接以金钱的援助为主。这样容易执行,也容易审计。其他稍微复杂点的项目,例如你说的图书馆这样的项目,牵扯到书籍的管理,图书馆固定资产的管理等,一开始估计会有困难。你觉得呢?
Alex--
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:21 AM, shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,
I was thinking about design our programs all with an education purpose. Such as build a moving library for the migration workers instead of giving them money directly. The mission of a small NPO should be clear and simple, at least at the beginning. Regarding the extreme poverty, I could think of the weakest of weak families in the rural area, such as kids who lost parents, grandchildren living with grandparents, single parents families, families with disabled members. We need some brainstorming on this since I have never lived in the countryside and might have a biased picture. I can do some research during the weekend to see what is being done currently by other NPOs in China.
Thanks,
Shanshan
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Lets Help China <letshe...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Shanshan,I've finished the first program "future leader" based on "creating opportunity for young and talented". Can you write the second one based on the mission " reducing extreme poverty". I think the most important part for this program is how to identify the "extreme poverty" population and how we can more effectively help them other than by simply giving them money.Please let me know if you will accept this task and when.Thanks a lot.Alex
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/NewYork/31937223.html
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:56:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [lets-help-china-project] to do by Shanshan: programs design
From: letshe...@gmail.com
To: lets-help-c...@googlegroups.com
"�ڶ�����Ŀ�������Ϊ����ɽ����ƶ����ͥ�ĺ������9�����������"---�����Ŀ����������������ͨ�����ɵ�Ψһ��·�����������������ķ�ʽ�á�������Ƶ�ʱ�����ͻ��һЩ�����е�ngo�����IJ�ͬ�ĵط�����Ҫ���Ƿ����Ժ�������չʾ����Ǯ����һ����Ŀ���ص�������Щ�ܾ����ѧ������л�����������飬��Щѧ��һ��ѧϰ�̿࣬�պ���п����гɾͣ�����ܳ�һ�����ر�ͻ�����˲ţ�������ǵ���֯��˵�Ƿdz��õ���ͻر��������°���Ҹ�ʱ�����绰�ɡ�
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2010/10/26 shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com>
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2010/10/26 shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com>
hi Alex��
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PS: Alex we might want to have a brief phone conversation about the programs when you have time
thanks,
Shanshan
2010/10/25 Lets Help China <letshe...@gmail.com>
Shanshan,
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Alex--
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:21 AM, shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,
I was thinking about design our programs all with an education purpose. Such as build a moving library for the migration workers instead of giving them money directly. The mission of a small NPO should be clear and simple, at least at the beginning. Regarding the extreme poverty, I could think of the weakest of weak families in the rural area, such as kids who lost parents, grandchildren living with grandparents, single parents families, families with disabled members. We need some brainstorming on this since I have never lived in the countryside and might have a biased picture. I can do some research during the weekend to see what is being done currently by other NPOs in China.
Thanks,
Shanshan
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Lets Help China <letshe...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Shanshan,I've finished the first program "future leader" based on "creating opportunity for young and talented". Can you write the second one based on the mission " reducing extreme poverty". I think the most important part for this program is how to identify the "extreme poverty" population and how we can more effectively help them other than by simply giving them money.Please let me know if you will accept this task and when.Thanks a lot.Alex
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/NewYork/31937223.html
嘿,shanshan,我觉得你的问题很好,你所提的问题,都会有可能成为将来操作上的困难。 Help future leader(我认为这些对象,应该是努力向上,想通过知识改变自己的现状,但是家庭经济条件有限),应该是potential leader,没有人能够直接定义一个人的将来,我们只能说,他可能成为将来社会的中坚力量。
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 2010 00:40:07 -0400From: shansha...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [lets-help-china-project] to do by Shanshan: programs design
不好意思,这两天比较忙。其实我是赞同舒展的意见的,在最初阶段最好只有一个项目,这个项目应该有特色,可行,如果为了marketing考虑的话当然最好短期见效。我是没有参加开会,看到你们列出来两个mission所以就第二个mission想的。alex说的打工者洗澡之类的小项目我自己觉得很喜欢,因为它们非常便宜实用可行,但是项目太多会显得我们的组织杂乱无章,不利于宣传和筹集资金 (这一点把自己放到donor的位置换位思考一下就行了。不说别的,项目散了连起名和做会标都困难:P),所以可能需要一个trade off. 其实放眼望去,即使大一点的ngo也不过两三个大项而已,小ngo一般能就一个项目展开发展起来就不错了。我们一开始真的无需贪多贪大。
如果只开一个项目,我个人觉得帮助打工者也很好。如果是要立意于Help future leader,我可以和alex合作修改具体的设计。我想提几个问题:大家觉得怎样算是成才,成为leader?怎样面对来到美国的大部分中国学生也不过是留在美国普通地工作生活,或者回到中国成为中产阶级而已?我们如何能够说服捐款人我们资助的学生将来能对社会有leading贡献能去impact更多的人?如何设计项目才能达到这个目标?技术上来讲,从5省中选拔5个人是否工作量太大?把有限的资源投给这5个人是否风险太大?5年的周期是否太长?
请原谅我这么多问题。我深信现在详细的规划能为以后的实行减少麻烦。
SHANSHAN
2010/10/26 Lets Help China <letshe...@gmail.com>
还是设计2个项目吧。
例如shanshan提出来的第二个项目"帮助贫苦学生完成9年义务教育"这个项目资金需求量相对第一个项目来说很小,很多贫苦山区一年给个几百块rmb就可以够一个小孩的生活费了。这个项目主要是追求"数量"的impact,而第一个"future leader"项目主要是追求"质量"的impact。
这样拉钱的时候我们的成果既有"数量"又有"质量",比较容易说服别人。就是最好第二个项目的时间可以稍微短一些。第一个项目已经5年的周期了,第二项目最好短一些,例如几个月到1年这样最好,容易出结果。还有一些花钱很少的项目我们也可以考虑。例如在大城市租个单元房,专门供外来打工者洗澡之类。这些项目一年的资金花费一两千美元就够了。我们把项目尽快设计好,印一些宣传资料,然后去尝试找一个最初的sponsor谈谈先。
2010/10/26 展 舒 <shuzh...@msn.com>
Hi,Alex, Shanshan,
呵呵,wonderful job,我们第一次见面提出的“Help future leader” (学习优秀而又家庭贫困的高中生),是有几个考虑:1, 突出我们的特色;2, 我们的组织刚成立,需要做一些可行的项目 (范围小点,可操作性强);3, 帮助这些 “futhure leader” 能够帮我们的组织起到立竿见影的宣传效果(我们虽然不是商业机构,但是仍需要marketing,否则没有资金来源),其次帮助“future leader” 可以放大资金的社会效应 (因为一旦他们成才,能力很大,他们也许能帮助更多的人)。
对于shanshan同学的提议,我非常赞同的,作为一个ONG,需要有普世的价值观,无论什么人,只要需要帮助,我们都应该在我们的能力范围内去帮助。其实,可以把shanshan的计划放在future plan里面。 这是一个权衡,我们现在刚成立,资金和人力都不够,所以需要确定一些特定的群体,并发挥资金的最大效用,等我们成长以后,我们就可以如shanshan所说的,去设计比如"第二个项目:为扶助山区最贫困家庭的孩子完成9年制义务教育" 等。
Best luck!
舒展
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:56:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [lets-help-china-project] to do by Shanshan: programs design
From: letshe...@gmail.com
To: lets-help-c...@googlegroups.com
"第二个项目可以设计为扶助山区最贫困家庭的孩子完成9年制义务教育"---这个项目可以做,"教育是通向自由的唯一出路",这个比其他资助的方式好。就是设计的时候最好突出一些和现有的ngo所做的不同的地方,主要还是方便以后给捐赠者展示好拿钱。第一个项目的特点是让这些受捐助的学生最后有机会出来美国读书,这些学生一般学习刻苦,日后很有可能有成就,如果能出一两个特别突出的人才,这对我们的组织来说是非常好的宣传和回报。那我下班后找个时间给你电话吧。
Alex
2010/10/26 shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com>
补充: 关于之前提到的mission " reducing extreme poverty ",周末查阅过农村贫困人口报告,目前大致的看法都是对有劳动能力的家庭尚可实行“造血”,对极端脆弱的家庭只能进行 “ 输血” 。“造血”需要比较大的资金投入和人力投入,还需要当地政府的合作,对我们来说很困难。只有资助孩子上学能够在长远看来间接实现“造血”。(我不知道各位的理想有多大,其实将来我们可以通过扶助教育植入很多小计划,比如“辅导员计划”来进行一些对future chinese citizen/leader的改造)
2010/10/26 shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com>
hi Alex,
你说得很对,图书馆那个只是一个例子,因为 project design直接关系到我们以后的运作和宣传,我是想怎么能够让我们的missions更鲜明更统一 (比如把重心都放在教育上,我个人觉得比起直接发钱给穷人更有意义,因为你不是在一次性的帮助,而是在做或许会改变人一生的事情)。如果我们的第一个项目是扶助贫困而优秀的高中生/大学生,第二个项目可以设计为扶助山区最贫困家庭的孩子完成9年制义务教育。当然这方面的ngo很多,但是需要帮助的孩子也还是很多。我可以这几天研究一下如何找到我们的specialty. 如果大家同意这个方向我本周内会把program design写好。
PS: Alex we might want to have a brief phone conversation about the programs when you have time
thanks,
Shanshan
2010/10/25 Lets Help China <letshe...@gmail.com>
Shanshan,
你的想法挺好的,我想等我们的组织以后有实力了一定可以做。我的想法是刚开始可能筹钱有一些困难,加上刚开始的组织,估计人员安排培训什么的也需要时间调整,所以项目设计就不能太复杂,这是为什么我想一开始就是给受捐助者直接以金钱的援助为主。这样容易执行,也容易审计。其他稍微复杂点的项目,例如你说的图书馆这样的项目,牵扯到书籍的管理,图书馆固定资产的管理等,一开始估计会有困难。你觉得呢?
Alex--
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:21 AM, shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,
I was thinking about design our programs all with an education purpose. Such as build a moving library for the migration workers instead of giving them money directly. The mission of a small NPO should be clear and simple, at least at the beginning. Regarding the extreme poverty, I could think of the weakest of weak families in the rural area, such as kids who lost parents, grandchildren living with grandparents, single parents families, families with disabled members. We need some brainstorming on this since I have never lived in the countryside and might have a biased picture. I can do some research during the weekend to see what is being done currently by other NPOs in China.
Thanks,
Shanshan
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Lets Help China <letshe...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Shanshan,I've finished the first program "future leader" based on "creating opportunity for young and talented". Can you write the second one based on the mission " reducing extreme poverty". I think the most important part for this program is how to identify the "extreme poverty" population and how we can more effectively help them other than by simply giving them money.Please let me know if you will accept this task and when.Thanks a lot.Alex
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/NewYork/31937223.html
OK, thanks alex for finishing up the draft, I will look through it and see what I can improve, we can then see if further discussion is needed based on the draft.I will be visiting NYC in the next 1 or 2 weeks. We can meet up if necessary.
to shuzhan: i totally agree with what you said: we can not define a person's future and whether he/she will become a leader or not. We can only help poor students with potential. So we have to think about how to adjust our attitude/expectation and how to market this mission.
Thanks,
Shanshan
2010/10/28 Lets Help China <letshe...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [lets-help-china-project] to do by Shanshan: programs design
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Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 09:56:38 -0400
Subject: Re: [lets-help-china-project] to do by Shanshan: programs design
From: letshe...@gmail.com
To: lets-help-c...@googlegroups.com
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2010/10/26 shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com>
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2010/10/26 shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com>
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PS: Alex we might want to have a brief phone conversation about the programs when you have time
thanks,
Shanshan
2010/10/25 Lets Help China <letshe...@gmail.com>
Shanshan,
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Alex--
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 12:21 AM, shanshan chen <shansha...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Alex,
I was thinking about design our programs all with an education purpose. Such as build a moving library for the migration workers instead of giving them money directly. The mission of a small NPO should be clear and simple, at least at the beginning. Regarding the extreme poverty, I could think of the weakest of weak families in the rural area, such as kids who lost parents, grandchildren living with grandparents, single parents families, families with disabled members. We need some brainstorming on this since I have never lived in the countryside and might have a biased picture. I can do some research during the weekend to see what is being done currently by other NPOs in China.
Thanks,
Shanshan
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Lets Help China <letshe...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Shanshan,I've finished the first program "future leader" based on "creating opportunity for young and talented". Can you write the second one based on the mission " reducing extreme poverty". I think the most important part for this program is how to identify the "extreme poverty" population and how we can more effectively help them other than by simply giving them money.Please let me know if you will accept this task and when.Thanks a lot.Alex
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/NewYork/31937223.html