Happy New Year and Our Problems

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Charming

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Feb 3, 2011, 11:08:49 PM2/3/11
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Hi guys, 

Happy New Year of Rabbit!

Today, our registration application was returned to me by Department of State. Besides some minor mistakes such as no double-sided printing, no blue ink signatures, there is a main issue. They said we are required to register with Department of Education first. This is so new to me, anyone can help? Another issue is, the purpose of the organization is too vague. I just wrote: To provide Chinese children with better educational opportunities. I am not sure what else I should put on the paper. The language of "include but not limited to" is forbidden. The requirements are: 
- Clearly and fully describe the purpose of the corporation.
- Describe what the corporation will do to carry out its purpose.
- A concise description of the corporation's purpose is sufficient.
- Make sure the purposes are consistent with the "Type".

Give me some idea.

Charmaine


Lets Help China

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Feb 4, 2011, 10:27:27 AM2/4/11
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Hi Charmine,
 
They probablly just want to know more about the organizaiton that you are filling for. I personally think we can just attach our business plan, of course after amending it a bit and highlight those lines where they needed the info.
 
Please take the lead to get some help from a more experienced person, such as your colleague or an accounting firm. Remember that you are more experienced on this than most of us in this group. I'll try to get someone to assist you too.
 
Thanks,
 
Alex
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shuzhan

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Feb 4, 2011, 12:36:49 PM2/4/11
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let me know if I can help. :)

zhan

J Xiao

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Feb 4, 2011, 3:07:08 PM2/4/11
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Hi Everyone,
 
Attached is the lastest Business Plan. I've added a new program to it as we discussed in our previous meeting.  Please feel free to make any changes.
 
Thanks,
-Jenny

 

Date: Thu, 3 Feb 2011 23:08:49 -0500
Subject: [lets-help-china-project] Happy New Year and Our Problems
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myao3...@aol.com

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Feb 4, 2011, 10:45:32 PM2/4/11
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Hi: Everyone:  Best Wishes For The Year Of Rabbit!
 
Thanks for the intro...Alex...
 
All the issues encoutered here are that of normal procedures.   When I created my foundation "Independent Thinking & New Media Foundation", I retained a foundation lawyer, and he charged $5000 for the establishment and all went quite smoothly due to his knowleage and competence.  All non-profit orgs are required to obtain a certificate from the Dept of Education.  In order to qualifiy as a non-profit, (tax-exemption), at the onset of application, we need to clearly state the cause for such org, one or two paragraphes usually, so that it is clearly intended for non-profit charitable works.
 
In answering the two questions of Clearly and fully describe the purpose of the corporation.> - Describe what the corporation will do to carry out its purpose": we were clear but not fully with that answer...we need to state that the cause is For Children In Need, Children From Families of Under-priviledged (since clearly this is not for children of wealthy families, this is crutial for non-profit)...and secondly to state the steps and activities planned to carry out such purpose...


Make sure the purposes are consistent with the "Type".---meaning your cause and activities are consistent with the name/title of your foundation...in this case -- to help Childrent In Need In China...
 
In my case, my foundation is an art foundation, so its purpose is to promote artists that are lesser known or under-priviledged...
 
If our group can find a foundation lawyer in Chinese community, then all will be much easier...and the key personnels can focus on the work, not having to be lost in the paperwork required by US government...since from here on, we will have to deal with it for validating the status and tax-return every year.
 
Cheer On!
 
Warm Rgds,
Maggie Yao

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Feb 5, 2011, 11:42:15 AM2/5/11
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This is excelent that we have someone who's got the experience starting a nonprofit. Thanks for sharing your experience, Maggie!
 
Charmine, this may be a great oppotunity for you to practice and try out filing for a nonprofit. Dont be afraid of making mistakes since we are all in the process of learning anyway.The service worth $5000, so dont expect it be an easy job. But we are all here to support you on this subproject. Let's meet agaim to discuss the issues if neccessary.
 
- Alex
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Charming

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Feb 5, 2011, 2:13:24 PM2/5/11
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Thanks Maggie,

It's so professional, I hope you were in the US now.

I finally got some clue from here.

Charmaine

Zhi JAY Liu

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Feb 5, 2011, 2:32:06 PM2/5/11
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I just feel we put too much pressure on you.

Jay


----- Original message -----
> Thanks Maggie,
>
> It's so professional, I hope you were in the US now.
>
> I finally got some clue from here.
>
> Charmaine
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 4, 2011 at 10:45 PM, <myao3...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi: Everyone:  Best Wishes For The Year Of Rabbit!
> >
> > Thanks for the intro...Alex...
> >
> > All the issues encoutered here are that of normal procedures.    When I
> > created my foundation "Independent Thinking & New Media Foundation", I
> > retained a foundation lawyer, and he charged $5000 for the
> > establishment and all went quite smoothly due to his knowleage and

> > competence.  *All non-profit orgs are required to obtain a certificate
> > from the Dept of Education.*  In order to qualifiy as a non-profit,

> > (tax-exemption), at the onset of application, we need to clearly state
> > the cause for such org, one or two paragraphes usually, so that it is
> > clearly intended for non-profit charitable works.
> >

> > In answering the two questions of *Clearly and fully describe the

> > purpose of the corporation.> - Describe what the corporation will do

> > to carry out its purpose":* we were clear but not fully with that
> > answer...we need to state that the cause is *For Children In Need,
> > Children From Families of Under-priviledged* (since clearly this is

> > not for children of wealthy families, this is crutial for

> > non-profit)...and secondly to state *the steps and activities planned
> > to carry out such purpose.*..
> >
> >
> > *Make sure the purposes are consistent with the "Type*".---meaning your

Charming

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Feb 5, 2011, 2:46:05 PM2/5/11
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It's OK, Jay. Saving $5000 equals to helping ten or even twenty more children.

Shu Zhan, I think I need your help. You might be more familiar with Department of Education than I.

Charmaine

shuzhan

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Feb 5, 2011, 9:00:12 PM2/5/11
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I will spend some time to figure out. :) we can exchange information. My cell 336 210 6565

zhan

myao3...@aol.com

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Feb 5, 2011, 11:00:37 PM2/5/11
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hi! Dear Alex, Charmaine, Shuzhan and Jay: your dedication of time and care for the cause are every encouraging...The journey ahead is long and chanllenging, yet it can be fullfilling and we will learn a lot about the world and mostly about ourselves...Keep me in the loop for furthur developement.
 
Wishing all the best,
Maggie
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