Books rationalist parents should own

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Glenn Thomas Davis

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Oct 7, 2014, 5:02:48 AM10/7/14
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Hi all,

At the alumni reunion, I promised I would create and maintain a Google Spreadsheet of something like "children's books for children of rationalist parents" or "books rationalist parents should own." As I recall, this definition extended to books I should read to my child or leave lying around for my child to find.

As you can tell, I'm having a bit of trouble framing what exactly this is a list of. I may be overcomplicating things, and there's no particular danger, I guess, in being overly inclusive, but I'm looking for opinions/guidance on a couple of things:
  • How the list should be framed, as noted above, and inclusion criteria
  • What fields should the spreadsheet have? (Or should it perhaps be a Goodreads list instead? Examples welcome.)

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Brian Kumahor

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Oct 7, 2014, 3:00:36 PM10/7/14
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I'm very interested in this list. As my son is a voracious reader and I'm dismayed with what he finds in the school library etc.

One criteria on the list assist from whether it's fiction or non fiction (autobiographical, etc) is what age group kids it's appropriate for. I was lucky we saw the rape scene in hpmor before my kid did and stopped him from going any further.

Brian Kumahor

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Oct 7, 2014, 3:29:13 PM10/7/14
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2 books I'd recommend off the top of my head.

A kid's non-fiction book called Problem Solving 101 by Ken Watanabe, at first my son wasn't interested and then one day picked it up and read it back to back like 5 times before he turned 6.

Current favorite his glued to is a fiction book with metaphors about not jumping to conclusions etc.. The phantom tollbooth by norton juster. Appropriate for preteens as well.

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Glenn Davis

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Oct 7, 2014, 3:41:33 PM10/7/14
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A kid's non-fiction book called Problem Solving 101 by Ken Watanabe

Yeah, I have that book. Great suggestion, I had bought it for myself but hadn't considered giving it to Heather. 


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William Eden

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Oct 7, 2014, 5:43:47 PM10/7/14
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There was a thread on the OBNYC list a while back, specifically a request for books for a smart 9 year old.

Many of the responses, if not all of them, were collected in this spreadsheet: 

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Brian Kumahor

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Oct 8, 2014, 6:22:55 PM10/8/14
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Thanks Will.
That's a very helpful list.

I've also recently seen a review of 2 kids' books ‘The Boy Who Loved Math’ and ‘On a Beam of Light’ that I want to check out.
They were reviewed for the nytimes by Nate Silver, author of the signal and the noise and famous election predicting data scientist.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/07/14/books/review/the-boy-who-loved-math-and-on-a-beam-of-light.html?ref=books&_r=2&

Daniel Kuck

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Oct 9, 2014, 10:03:19 AM10/9/14
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Horton Hears a Who is really useful.

The story has 2 or 3 layers of perspectives to explore already. But more usefully it provides a context for a discussion about how your kid might test Horton's claims.

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Tom Adams

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Oct 29, 2014, 9:28:33 AM10/29/14
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On Tuesday, October 7, 2014 5:02:48 AM UTC-4, Glenn Thomas Davis wrote:

Brian Kumahor

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Jun 26, 2016, 6:54:06 PM6/26/16
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2 years later i finally read thru the parts of hpmor my wife flagged as inappropriate. I decided they were fine for my now 9yo and he finished it likety split. I'm trying to catch up.

So what does a 9yo do after reading hpmor? Well, one of them is researching the hell out of peregrine falcons (Harry Potter's favorite animal) and presenting it for a school project.

Robin Lee Powell

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Jun 26, 2016, 11:22:48 PM6/26/16
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:D

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 03:54:05PM -0700, Brian Kumahor wrote:
> 2 years later i finally read thru the parts of hpmor my wife flagged as inappropriate. I decided they were fine for my now 9yo and he finished it likety split. I'm trying to catch up.
>
> So what does a 9yo do after reading hpmor? Well, one of them is researching the hell out of peregrine falcons (Harry Potter's favorite animal) and presenting it for a school project.
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Daniel Reeves

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Jun 27, 2016, 1:45:42 AM6/27/16
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Our 9yo is also reading HPMOR! She's obsessed with JK Rowling's
version and is pretty skeptical about Yudkowsky's version. Possibly
she's offended at all the jabs at the original. But she says the best
thing about HPMOR is that it's really funny.

It hadn't occurred to me to worry about anything child-inappropriate.
I guess there's stuff that's disturbingly dark.

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> 2 years later i finally read thru the parts of hpmor my wife flagged as inappropriate. I decided they were fine for my now 9yo and he finished it likety split. I'm trying to catch up.
>
> So what does a 9yo do after reading hpmor? Well, one of them is researching the hell out of peregrine falcons (Harry Potter's favorite animal) and presenting it for a school project.
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Daniel Reeves

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Jul 2, 2016, 3:21:22 AM7/2/16
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Update: Apparently our 9yo is very old-school. She has gone back to
rereading JK Rowling's version unless we can find her a paper copy of
HPMOR. We used to have a small stack of them but gave them all away.
Anyone have any ideas where those can be found?

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Sep 21, 2016, 4:40:22 AM9/21/16
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On Saturday, July 2, 2016 at 12:21:22 AM UTC-7, Daniel Reeves wrote:
Update: Apparently our 9yo is very old-school. She has gone back to
rereading JK Rowling's version unless we can find her a paper copy of
HPMOR. We used to have a small stack of them but gave them all away.
Anyone have any ideas where those can be found?

On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 10:45 PM, Daniel Reeves <dre...@beeminder.com> wrote:
> Our 9yo is also reading HPMOR! She's obsessed with JK Rowling's
> version and is pretty skeptical about Yudkowsky's version. Possibly
> she's offended at all the jabs at the original. But she says the best
> thing about HPMOR is that it's really funny.
>
> It hadn't occurred to me to worry about anything child-inappropriate.
> I guess there's stuff that's disturbingly dark.
>
> On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 3:54 PM, Brian Kumahor <bkum...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2 years later i finally read thru the parts of hpmor my wife flagged as inappropriate. I decided they were fine for my now 9yo and he finished it likety split. I'm trying to catch up.
>>
>> So what does a 9yo do after reading hpmor? Well, one of them is researching the hell out of  peregrine falcons (Harry Potter's favorite animal) and presenting it for a school project.
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