Moving beyond Leo

[Edward K. Ream]

Recently, I realized that I was never going to retire. I was the last to know, hehe. Programming has been my life for 50+ years. Nothing is going to take its place.

However, work on Leo is winding down:

Félix has completed his line-by-line code review of most of Leo's code. I expect few new quirps to turn up.

Leo can do everything I ever hoped it would. It's impossible to be creative without a juicy problem. No such challenges remain for Leo.

leoJS will give Leo features that I could never hope to duplicate. Why compete with the thousands of full-time engineers working on vs-code? And there are thousands of vs-code plugins.

Summary

No significant tasks remain for Leo, but I'll fix bugs as they arise.

Perhaps a juicy Leonine problem will arise while working on other projects.

Edward

P.S. Leo got started as a way to understand Knuth's TeX program. Last week, I started playing with LaTeX for what is known as music engraving.

What a difference 45 years has made! A vs-code plugin renders LaTeX almost instantly.

The challenge is figuring out which combination of dozens of existing tools will be most convenient.

EKR

[Thomas Passin]

On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 8:07:05 AM UTC-4 Edward K. Ream wrote:

Last week, I started playing with LaTeX for what is known as music engraving.

Music engraving ... if you want a challenge, well, all right then! 

[Edward K. Ream]

:-) It should be easier than it sounds. There are tools like lilypond and macros like MusiXTEX. As I said, the challenge is finding the easiest pipeline. I hope to help create my music teacher's next book.

Edward

[Thomas Passin]

Agreed, Lilypond is very good.  It takes a lot of learning, though.

[Jacob Peck]

I used lilypond with LaTeX for my honors thesis in undergrad about 11 years ago.  I sincerely hope the LaTeX integration has improved since then :)

Jake

On Oct 1, 2023, at 9:44 AM, Thomas Passin <tbp1...@gmail.com> wrote:

Agreed, Lilypond is very good.  It takes a lot of learning, though.

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[Edward K. Ream]

On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 10:04:30 AM UTC-5 Jake wrote:

I used lilypond with LaTeX for my honors thesis in undergrad about 11 years ago.  I sincerely hope the LaTeX integration has improved since then :)

We'll see. I'll keep you posted.

Edward

[jkn]

you can definitely lose yourself for years in typography, fontography and music notation-ography ... fun times...

[Edward K. Ream]

On Sun, Oct 1, 2023 at 3:58 PM jkn <jkn...@nicorp.f9.co.uk> wrote:

you can definitely lose yourself for years in typography, fontography and music notation-ography ... fun times...

Indeed.

Edward

[HaveF HaveF]

:-) It should be easier than it sounds. There are tools like lilypond and macros like MusiXTEX. As I said, the challenge is finding the easiest pipeline. I hope to help create my music teacher's next book.

About 10 years ago, I used LyX | LyX – The Document Processor for LaTex editing. I have found that it is still being updated, so maybe you should give it a try.

 

[jkn]

I occasionally use MuseScore to create scores for my granddaughter to play on the cornet. Being a TeX fan, I would have liked to use lillypond or similar, but it would take me forever and MuseScore is perfectly adequate for my purposes(*).

However I rather imagine that the output of Musescore is looked upon with polite (or not so polite?) disdain by 'proper' music setters...

(*) and the new owners of MuseScore are trying to monetize it, irritatingly

[Edward K. Ream]

On Mon, Oct 2, 2023 at 3:39 AM jkn <jkn...@nicorp.f9.co.uk> wrote:

I occasionally use MuseScore to create scores for my granddaughter to play on the cornet. Being a TeX fan, I would have liked to use lillypond or similar, but it would take me forever and MuseScore is perfectly adequate for my purposes(*).

However I rather imagine that the output of Musescore is looked upon with polite (or not so polite?) disdain by 'proper' music setters...

My music teacher has high standards. His attitude is one of frustration, not disdain :-)

Edward

[Edward K. Ream]

On Sunday, October 1, 2023 at 7:07:05 AM UTC-5 Edward K. Ream wrote:

> P.S. Leo got started as a way to understand Knuth's TeX program.

Phil Straus, who suggested I look into MORE 30+ years ago,  suggests I take a look at Harmony Assistant.

Has anyone used this program?

Edward

[jkn]

Yes, I (like others, I think) came to outline editors, and Leo etc, as part or a line that included Knuth's espousal of Literate Programming, tangle and weave etc.

Not come across Harmony Assistant before.