Torrent for the Legacy CD

[Andy Berdan]

I've made a torrent for the Legacy CD. You can get the torrent at
http://bitrot.ca/files/LegacyCD.torrent

Redistribute that file at will.

To help out with the download (aka seeding), download the file, but
leave your bittorrent client open. That way, it will continue to share
the file with other people, and won't be so much of a drain on my
servers. :)

Some useful links are at the bottom of this email.

Cheers,
Andy.

BitTorrent:
Information about BitTorrent:
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2004Aug/con20040824026587.htm
Original BT client: http://www.bittorrent.com/
Popular BT client clone: http://azureus.sourceforge.net/

Bin/Cue burning information:
bin/cue files can be burned by most modern burning software, such as:
CDRWin
Alcohol 120% (http://www.alcohol-software.com/)
Nero Burning ROM (http://www.nero.com/)
K3B (http://www.k3b.org/)
... and others ...

You can also use cd-emulation to mount the Legacy CD without actually
burning it to a disc. See:
Alcohol 120% (http://www.alcohol-software.com/) or
Daemon Tools (http://www.daemon-tools.cc)

[rich shumaker]

My only question is when this disc is copied or burned will it be VCD?
Thx.

Rich

[Andy Berdan]

Yes, definitely.

[rich shumaker]

I will work on getting you a better copy.
Also I will research the software you used to see if I can create an
ISO to send you.

Thanks again.
Rich Shumaker
P.S. I will try to use bit torrent and burn a copy of the LegacyCd to
see if I can do it.

[Andy Berdan]

Actually, I was hosting the torrent on the server at work, and the
cable company decided that they'd completely break our 'net access.
Yeah... we're not too bloody happy right now.

I'll set it up again on another server tonight.

[Andy Berdan]

Sorry it took so long, but I have the torrent back online. The work
servers are back online, so the old torrent file (
http://bitrot.ca/files/LegacyCD.torrent ) will still work.

Happy downloading.

[rich shumaker]

Downloaded.
I had to put the files onto my D drive for the Cue sheet to work.
I am waiting for the burn to finish then I will check it out.
I will see if I get the glitch you were talking about.

Rich

[rich shumaker]

WOO HOO.
I loved it.
I laughed I cried I had some pie, mmmmm pie.

Seriously. I burned the disk from the bit torrent file.
Then I burned GeexBox from the disc I burned.

It worked and it worked.

THANKS again.
How can we get more seeds going?

[Andy Berdan]

To get more seeds, we just need more people to download the file using
bittorrent, and leave their download open after it's done. That's all
a seed is -- someone who's downloaded the whole file, and is still
contributing to uploads.

Did you see that glitch (around the PSA clip)?

[rich shumaker]

I saw a few glitches.
I was trying to see if they were new or old.
I did see the PSA glitch. Which stinks.
I will try to get you a couple of copies. I will also try to ISO it up myself.

Thanks again.

Rich

[richsh...@gmail.com]

Andy
I have used Alcohol on a fresh copy of the LegacyCd.
It is specific for Bit Torrent with all the same goodies as every
LegacyCd.

I then uploaded it(which took forever) to the server I use.
If you could download this copy. Test it out. Then Bit Torrent it up
that would ROCK.
Let me know if you have any problems
So the bin and cue are in the same directory.
http://www.RichShumaker.com/legacy/LEGACYCD05052005.bin
http://www.RichShumaker.com/legacy/LEGACYCD05052005.cue

[Andy Berdan]

Will do. I'm downloading now, but I left my docking station (with the
burner) at work, so it'll have to wait a bit. I'll keep my fingers and
toes crossed in the meantime.

[rich shumaker]

Cool Thx for the help.
Just let me know what you find out when you find it out.

Rich

[richsh...@gmail.com]

Hey Andy I have a question from Dot Org.
Colin was trying to seed it and here is what he said,
"I've a completed copy and I can't connect to the tracker. Theres no
way I can seed it."

Also Marco had a problem downloading it. I think this is when you
server went down.

Thanks again for the help.
Let me know how people can seed the LegacyCd so we can populate it
around the world.
Also what would have to happen if you change the Bin/Cue to the new
copy.
I think they will need to redownload the entire gigantic file. Which
would sux but that is what I think needs to happen.

Have a great day.
Rich

[Andy Berdan]

richsh...@gmail.com wrote:

>Hey Andy I have a question from Dot Org.
>Colin was trying to seed it and here is what he said,
>"I've a completed copy and I can't connect to the tracker. Theres no
>way I can seed it."
>
>

I had to take down the server at work for some maintenance, and forgot
to restart the tracker. I've since put it into a startup script, so
that shouldn't happen again... It's just as well, though, I've started
the new torrent with the corrected image. It works for me without flaws.

>Also what would have to happen if you change the Bin/Cue to the new
>copy.
>I think they will need to redownload the entire gigantic file. Which
>would sux but that is what I think needs to happen.
>
>

Yes, exactly. They will have to re-download the whole thing. The new
torrent is at http://bitrot.ca/files/LegacyCD_v2.torrent

I don't think there's any other way of doing it, since checksums are
stored in the torrent itself.

Cheers,
Andy.

[rich shumaker]

Please delete the old file.
That way people won't have a problem with it.

How does the tracker work?

Here is the post at DotOrg
http://www.contactjuggling.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?p=10118#10118

Thanks again for all the help.
If you have a seed tutorial link let me know.

I would like to seed it from my server but not at home.
So I would need to download it to the server in Bit Torrent form.
I have a feeling this is going to be much more difficult for me.

Rich

[rich shumaker]

Hey did you get a cleaner copy this time.
I forgot to ask if this Bin/Cue is better or more gooder as I like to say.
Or is their still the glitch that existed before?

I know that each LegacyCd I do has different flaws because of the physical CD.

Rich

[Andy Berdan]

rich shumaker wrote:

>Please delete the old file.
>That way people won't have a problem with it.
>
>

Good idea. Done.

>How does the tracker work?
>
>

It's a program that runs on a server, and coordinates all the
communication between clients. It doesn't store anything itself. All
it does it inform users of a torrent where the other clients are. The
tracker address is built into the torrent file, so it can't be changed.

>Thanks again for all the help.
>If you have a seed tutorial link let me know.
>
>

No tutorial needed... once a tracker is up and running, seeding a
torrent is very simple. All you have to do is download the file, and
leave your client open. Once you hit 100% downloaded, you're
automatically a seeder (which is just a name for '100% downloaded and
still uploading').

>I would like to seed it from my server but not at home.
>So I would need to download it to the server in Bit Torrent form.
>I have a feeling this is going to be much more difficult for me.
>
>

Not really that difficult... just copy an already-downloaded version
onto your server, and run a download from there. It'll check the files
you already have, download missing chunks (if any), and start uploading
chunks. Just keep in mind that the LegacyCD_v2 directory is required.

Hm... you know, I probably should have zipped up the image or
something. It would probably compress quite well. Oh well.

Andy.

[Andy Berdan]

rich shumaker wrote:

>Hey did you get a cleaner copy this time.
>I forgot to ask if this Bin/Cue is better or more gooder as I like to say.
>Or is their still the glitch that existed before?
>
>

Yeah, the video glitch is gone. It seems perfect to me. Definitely
more gooder than the previous. :)

Andy.

[rich shumaker]

I don't really want to compress it.
That adds another step to the process.
And it will be a HUGE damn file anyway.
All of the video is compressed so a second compression could
compromise the integrity possibly.

So I am still a bit daft on the server side of things.
I can put the files on my server via FTP.
How do I get the bit torrent to know I have it on the server?

Also how do we know how many seeds the LegacyCd has?

http://www.prodigem.com/torrents/details.php?id=304
This has the number of seeds at 1 even though a bunch of people have
downloaded it.
This is for "My First Lesson"

Thanks again and I saw you over at DotOrg.

Rich

[Andy Berdan]

>I don't really want to compress it.
>That adds another step to the process.
>And it will be a HUGE damn file anyway.
>All of the video is compressed so a second compression could
>compromise the integrity possibly.
>
>

Yeah, I gave it a shot with a few different programs, and the best I
could get was 81% of the original size (using 7zip). Not really worth
having everyone restart their downloads Yet Again.

>So I am still a bit daft on the server side of things.
>I can put the files on my server via FTP.
>
>

The problem is that you have to run a program on the server itself to
communicate with the tracker (and the other bittorrent downloaders).
So, unless you have shell access (ssh, telnet, vnc, remote desktop, etc,
etc), you're stuck.

>Also how do we know how many seeds the LegacyCd has?
>
>

You can go to the tracker at http://24.235.99.74:6969/

The "Completed" column shows the number of people connected right now
that have 100% of the file (ie, seeds)
The "Downloaded" column shows the number of people that finished
downloading the image.

You can also look at the information output in your bittorrent client.
It'll say (somewhere) how many more seeds your client can see (so, add 1
for yourself), and give an estimate for how many additional 'full
copies' it can assemble out of the bits and pieces that partial
downloads have so far. Probably just as easy to visit the tracker URL
above.

>http://www.prodigem.com/torrents/details.php?id=304
>This has the number of seeds at 1 even though a bunch of people have
>downloaded it.
>
>

That's because downloaders have to leave their bittorrent program
running to be able to seed. Once they close bittorrent, they're not
connected (and not uploading/seeding) any more.

[rich shumaker]

thx for the updates and info.
I will see what I can do with my host provider.
What software would I need on the server side.
Or what would I need to do on the server side?

Rich

On 6/29/05, Andy Berdan <berd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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