FM1 tuner for sale! Grab it!
Lothar
certainly get a perfect tuner! Grab it!
Lothar
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/LECSON-FM1-TUNER_W0QQitemZ270305377774QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_AudioTVElectronics_HomeAudioHiFi_Tuners?hash=item270305377774&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1300|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318
Pete Wilson
Does look nice, though.
-- Pete
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John Mayberry
about once every 18 months at most on eBay, usually not working (300
pound repair job). They do complement the Lecson AC1 beautifully.
Lothar
well be the one being offered right now.
Average price is £ 250-300 for working tuner with very minor flaws,
like the one on offer.
I myself have been offered £ 500 for my FM1.
Of course 3 years have passed, no tuners offered, and prices going up
and up.
Rare opportunity for people prepared to spend their pocket money.
Lothar
Lothar
Lothar
On 20 Nov., 23:51, Pete Wilson <p...@kivadesigngroupe.com> wrote:
> Alas, we're in a financial meltdown. My millions have evaporated. :-(
>
> Does look nice, though.
>
> -- Pete
>
> On Nov 20, 2008, at 12:10 PM, Lothar wrote:
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>
>
> > Beautiful FM1, very, very rare occasion. I know the seller, you will
> > certainly get a perfect tuner! Grab it!
>
> > Lothar
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John Mayberry
model. Yet with the current economy I'm not sure how many have 600 pounds
lying around their wives will let them part with the, "Honey, I know it's a
30 year old FM tuner, but" speech.
Still, I've been was offered $1,000 for mine by three different guys and I
think the offer still stands. I really like the FM1 and would be extremely
reluctant to part with it- let's face it- they are seriously cool with the
tracking LEDs. It's bright and makes noise- perfect toy for boys.
As an aside, most of our local audio vendors have already gone bankrupt.
The "home theater specialists" went first. As an aside, do you know of
anyone that has actually watched more than ten movies on one and continues
to use it? The projectors are nice but the 5.1/7.1 audio systems drive me
nuts.
A few of the specialist "stereo" shops are still with us.
The big box stores are really struggling here in the USA. Circuit City has
filed for bankruptcy and is praying suppliers will feed them products on
credit through the holidays. Tweeter's gone, as well as all of its
permutations. Best Buy remains the king, but their audio section
(receivers, CD players, etc.) recently morphed into a guitar area here
locally.
Spiny
price I'll wait - probably for ever.
Lothar
spend it on a 30 year old tuner....
But I of course also agree: It IS worth the money and we will see
prices go a lot higher than that in future, especially for the tuner.
And $ 1000 is just about the same as the 500 pounds I have been
offered.
And OF COURSE it IS the MOST beautiful toy for big boys ! :))) And
an excellent one at that.
Home theatre: Yes, very nice when new, but have you ever watched an
action film with about one explosion per second???
Drives you mad in no time.....
REAL Hifi? What real Hifi is there in the shops?
Most people buy MP3 players and these horrible ear plugs.....
OR they go for the "All-in-one" Highend-Hifi for $ 99 ....
Most have no idea what they are missing! They just never had a chance
to listen to good Hifi!
I had a subscription for Stereophile, but just couldn't bear it any
more either!
NOTHING but the most expensive Hifi, names I have never ever heard
before, because 0.1% of "ordinary" people can afford it.
And the speakers? Most speakers, no matter how good they are seem to
care mostly about design and nothing else.
It is absolutely amazing (and crazy!) when you have a look at
Stereophile and see loads of speakers with the most unusual designs,
where the designers must have been hopping mad or drunk or both when
they designed it.
YES, sometimes they do look good, but that's not the most important
thing with speakers, is it? A welcome extra, yes!
Lothar
But on the other hand....it is almost Christmas time!
Why not go Carol Singing ?
People will either pay you for singing, OR for stopping it ! ;)))
Might just get enough to have a go at the FM1 ! :)))
John Mayberry
As far as I can tell, there's only a dozen or so of these left in working
condition, so the price is likely to only go up. Sad but probably true.
steve195527
ct7000 to name one)and nowhere near as good as the amps,I've got one
and haven't used it for over 10yrs!
Lothar
Not the same old "it isn't worth it there are better ones" story
again! ;)))
Yes, maybe! So what ?
That is NOT the point!
It is a matter of: "I really want one BADLY!" for whatever silly
reasons, AND it is CULT!
As easy as that! :)))
steve195527
buy hi-fi to listen to music through,it just so happens that I like
the Lecson amps better than most others,if I didn't I wouldn't have
them,the Lecson tuners were never that good,I only have one because it
came from an ex Lecson employee as a job lot wth a pre/power amp:-it
crackled,drifted and basically felt like an unfinished product
released to early fulfill the aesthetic match to the AC1:-as some one
said earlier "to make up the set"
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> - Show quoted text -
Lothar
I certainly don't close my eyes to negative aspects, but on the other
hand: finding negative aspects is not my foremost priority when I look
at things.
Spiny
tuner, is not worth much, its the design. The amps are a different
matter, design and sound well. I have a fair tuner (an Arcam) in
general use, works well with the AC1 and a Leak troughline which I
really should get out and run up to check :)
600 is over budget for a design.
John Mayberry
While I agree to some extent, it is true the Lecson doesn't touch the
Kenwood L-02T or Sequerra models of the day either, but those pups are
impossible to find and are 2x-4x the price with a similar waiting list...
I would trade my Lecson for a Sequerra, but that's about it!
That Yamaha CT-7000 you have ain't exactly a slouch either! It was $1,200
in the 1970's and worth every penny to the serious FM listener- damn fine
piece of kit. Not sure how the prices held up (i.e. rarity) recently, but
have to believe they're on the high side of $1,000 themselves now. Prying
one from its owner hands might be the key issue issue. You are a lucky man.
Lothar
third.
On the other hand it is no use comparing things endlessly and just on
technical terms.
Why should anyone then buy an Oldtimer? These beautiful vintage cars
that just can't compete with a modern car as far as techical
innovations go, some would also say design.
But millions of people around the world are fascinated by them and
many of them even spend a lot of money to get one, or two, or......
And this also goes for many, many other items that people collect or
love, sometimes for the silliest of reasons.
Loving and buying that stuff certainly isn't and shouldn't be a "brain
thing!"
steve195527
find many moders cars that out perform one of the original Shelby(we
call it the AC!)427 Cobras,the one with the proper 427(nascar) engines
not the 428,just as some vintage hi-fi holds up against modern gear
My power amp is faulty at mo(still haven't got round to getting it
fixed "again")so I bought a Chord to use in its place,which doesn't
sound any better than my Lecson when its working ok:-more reliable yes
but not better sounding,and Chord are one of the best amps on the
market at the moment:-if something sounded "right" 30yrs ago then it
will still sound right now,fashions change but quality will always
shine through
Pete Wilson
behaviours of an amplifier, some are fairly basic: excellent frequency
response, low noise, low distortions (harmonic, intermodulation); and
experience has shown us basic amp topologies that work well.
The Lecson power amps show good engineering in these areas.
Modern designs can probably better them in detail because of better
components (fr'example, using the ON Semiconductor power transistors
which have separate tiny transistors on the same slice o silicon that
a designer can use in the temperature-sensitive biasing circuitry) but
it's second order stuff compared to pickups and speakers.
My, I wish I could afford a Chord.
I use Behringer....
-- P
On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:45 PM, steve195527 wrote:
> some vintage or classic cars do compare with modern designs:-try to
> find many moders cars that out perform one of the original Shelby(we
> call it the AC!)427 Cobras,the one with the proper 427(nascar) engines
> not the 428,just as some vintage hi-fi holds up against modern gear
> My power amp is faulty at mo(still haven't got round to getting it
> fixed "again")so I bought a Chord to use in its place,which doesn't
> sound any better than my Lecson when its working ok:-more reliable yes
> but not better sounding,and Chord are one of the best amps on the
> market at the moment:-if something sounded "right" 30yrs ago then it
> will still sound right now,fashions change but quality will always
> shine through
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Lothar
Congrats to the seller xxx, highest price ever !
Lothar
On 20 Nov., 19:10, Lothar <lothar.kissin...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Beautiful FM1, very, very rare occasion. I know the seller, you will
> certainly get a perfect tuner! Grab it!
>
> Lothar
>
organstan
organstan
2) The FM1 was far from perfect but it should never drift. I has a an
AFC circuit which is rock solid. I spent a lot of time on it. Mind
you after 30 years and with the comparitively poor components of 30
years ago it is unlikely that anything is working as per drawing
3) The FM1 was never designed to be the best of tuners (my previous
Cambridge Audio tuners were better) but to match the AC1 which really
backed me into a corner. I did the best I could given the lack of
internal space. Remember this was pre surface mount components.
4)
organstan
5) Modern designers do everything on Spice. We hadn't got computers
in those days just a pocket calculator and a good knowledge of
transistor theory. Oddly enough I recently put a couple of my old
amplifier designs onto Spice and they came out really well. I don't
really rate Spice design though because the engineers who've used
nothing else don't really understand what is really happening. It is
easier but more superficial.
6) and finally who would have thought enthusiasts would still want to
buy this stuff. I really find it hard to believe
Stan
Lothar
1. We just LOVE your stuff!
2. Imperfections sometimes make things even more loveable!
3. We have EARS not hightech instruments measuring whatever there is
to measure!
4. PLUS the added bonus of a wonderful design piece
5. So stop wondering! Start enjoying the benefits of a thirty year
old job: satisfaction and pride !
Lothar
John Mayberry
equipment remains so coveted thirty years later and why interest will thrive
long in to the future.
Lecson's rare combination of styling and performance was instantly
recognized in its day, gracing magazine covers, hi fi store windows, and
even museum collections worldwide. No doubt it was coveted by many more
than owned.
Lecson's strong showing in the BPA's best UK vintage audio equipment poll is
no fluke. Nor was Debenhams' reuse of the brand name decades after the
company closed.
Lecson equipment was more expensive than even the Quad equipment in its day.
No one is completely sure exactly how much equipment is left, but the bottom
line is not much and the supply can only dwindle as time goes on.
Yet unlike a vintage car, Lecson hi fi equipment is best used daily and
unlike a vintage wine it will provide years of entertainment pleasure if
properly looked after.
Lecson is also a great conversation piece- it always strikes up a
conversation!
Lothar
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