[LL Mission] Tin Badges

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Ben Betts

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Mar 8, 2014, 6:14:24 AM3/8/14
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This post relates to one of our on-going missions.  We're always looking for new contributors to our missions, read below and reply in this thread with what you can bring to the mission to get involved.

-------------------------------------- Mission:  Tin Badges (Open Cans) -----------------------------------------------------

As a part of the ADL's design group work, we've convened a team to work on a notional integration between xAPI and Mozilla's Open Badge initiative.  Read the primer blog post and then review the mission brief to find out more and get involved...

Mission Brief:

  1. To create a prototype for issuing Open Badges based on a pre-specified set of criteria that are evidenced in xAPI statements (i.e. Data comes in, when the criteria is met, the badge is issued to the individual)
  2. And to suggest a standard method by which Open Badges are identified in xAPI statements (i.e. what is the appropriate context description and method to describe an Open Badge being issued to a learner, such that 3rd party systems can always ‘detect’ when a statement refers to a badge and potentially always reach the badge assertion).
Mission Lead: Bryan Mathers
Reporting In: May, 2014
Mission Needs: We need potential implementers to get in touch for testing purposes.  Candidates should be using Open Badges already and have a capability to generate xAPI statements (either through software of your own or a third party you have ready access).

Jason Lewis

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May 13, 2014, 2:28:16 PM5/13/14
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Hey, the concept of xAPI connected, evidence-backed open badges is something we've been discussing for a while at An Estuary, so I'm really excited to see other folks thinking in that vein.

We've been issuing Open Badges in connection with our social professional learning platform, and are starting on the xAPI implementation side of things now (playing with Learning Locker), so I'd love to discuss the "Tin Badges" concept further.

Cheers,

Jason Lewis
CTO, An Estuary

Ben Betts

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May 13, 2014, 3:13:14 PM5/13/14
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Hi Jason

Thanks for the note. Loving the look of your products; I'm a sucker for an animal related social learning platform.

One of the key areas I'm asking for input on currently is the manner in which we come to define a schema for the badge criteria. It would be fairly straightforward to map particular statements to criteria (and then subsequently use the generated statements as evidence) but it gets a whole lot more interesting when we can define a more flexible schema for criteria to be more broadly described. Right now we're working on a notion of 'bucketing' activity. Perhaps you build a schema that looks for evidence across these buckets; what you "viewed", what you've "contributed" and what you've "demonstrated". The latter might require some element of observation or peer review for rigor.

Any input you've got into how such a schema might be developed and whether this approach would be interesting to your work would be great feedback. In particular I'm looking to generate some consensus around the bucketing approach; is that the right idea?  Are we missing something bigger / better?

Ben

Jason Lewis

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May 15, 2014, 2:57:52 PM5/15/14
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Hi Ben,

I was just on a call with the Mozilla OB Tech Panel yesterday discussing the "evidence" portion of badges, and there's a lot of interest in how xAPI statements (or collections of statements) could be either refenced or "baked" into the badges as JSON objects... They're currently working on a spec for badge extensions that looks like a good place to start. I just joined the Badge Alliance standards working group, our next call is next week so I'll bring up the "bucketing" idea there, so they have an idea of what's happening on the xAPI side of the world. 

I think there's plenty of interest on both sides to make these standards compatible in an obvious and seamless way, we just need to figure out what that looks like.

I have some ideas about making LL easier to deploy for folks that are already issuing badges (like us) so we can get more people experimenting, but that's probably a separate post.

Cheers,

Jason

scottm...@gmail.com

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Oct 20, 2014, 5:02:52 PM10/20/14
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Hi Ben,

We are experimenting with Open Badges and LL at the school I work at. Would be interesting in assisting in testing.

Cheers,
-Scott

b...@ht2.co.uk

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Oct 21, 2014, 5:07:12 AM10/21/14
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Thanks Scott, I will update you in the next two weeks as we're about to publish some methods and a couple of tools as our first take on this topic.

Ben

Martyn Eggleton

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Oct 31, 2014, 2:33:30 AM10/31/14
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Cool,

Very glad your working on this as it was my next job once we have a working LRS :)

Well up for testing this when available (although I'm busily rebuilding all of our learning activities to be TinCan at the moment).

bruno...@gmail.com

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May 16, 2015, 9:38:13 PM5/16/15
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Hi Jason, Hi Ben

Was wondering if you end up defining a verb and a statement template for issueing a badge. We are doing next #PKMChat on badges and I wanted to connect the Kneaver Chat runner that takes a chat, creates lists, xAPI statements to go further and issues participants badges. I like the backing idea.

I followed the discussion above on the criteria. No idea yet, what about embedding some JS code? Would be more flexible than defining predicates, ranges etc. js can be transfered as json (weird I admit).

Not sure I'm in the proper place. Contact me on twitter or Slack (Jason knows how) on need.

Ryan Smith

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May 18, 2015, 5:23:14 PM5/18/15
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Hi, we've actually started a community of practice on Github.

bruno...@gmail.com

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May 20, 2015, 11:28:31 AM5/20/15
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Yes I know but it didn't look very active. I found https://github.com/ht2/BadgesCoP/blob/master/earning/example1.json but no comments to make sense out of it.
Will read again

Not a big proponent of using github as a tool for discussions :)

bruno...@gmail.com

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May 20, 2015, 12:08:09 PM5/20/15
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OK catched up from Gitter. I have now a better understanding of where the project stands.

Ryan Smith

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May 20, 2015, 5:12:19 PM5/20/15
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Brilliant, thanks for the update.

On Wed, 20 May 2015 at 17:08 <bruno...@gmail.com> wrote:
OK catched up from Gitter. I have now a better understanding of where the project stands.

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JJ Vroom

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Jun 24, 2018, 8:26:28 AM6/24/18
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So, the last discussion was about 3 years ago I see:(. The project is dead? Anybody succeded to link badges to xAPI? 

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