Fwd: Bug#596229: ITP: lazyscripts -- A stupid scripts management tool and non official package installer

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From: Thibaut Paumard <mlotpo...@free.fr>
Date: 2010/9/9
Subject: Re: Bug#596229: ITP: lazyscripts -- A stupid scripts management tool and non official package installer
To: Thomas Goirand <bill...@gmail.com>, 596...@bugs.debian.org

>   Description     : A stupid scripts management tool and non official package installer
>
> Lazyscripts is just a stupid script distrubtion tool and quick-installer
> in Linux, which aims to provide a easy way to setup your working
> environment for people who need to install a new distrubution such as
> Debian, Ubuntu, openSUSE or who want to have much better experiences in
> Linux.
>

Sorry, I absolutely don't get the concept. In particular, how will
lazyscripts help Debian users installing SuSE?

What sort of "scripts" and "packages" are installed by "lazyscripts"?
are they installed at the systme level or in the user directory?

From the homepage, it looks like it's a tool to help Taiwanese people to
get a working, localized environment. Is that so? In that case both the
short and long description are misleading: non-taiwanese people won't
get that it's not for them, and Taiwanese people won't get that it IS
for them.

Best regards, Thibaut.

PS: also presumably not mandated by the Debian policy, it would be great
to have at least a couple of sentences in English on the page pointed to
by the "Homepage" field of your ITP.

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2010/9/9 Thibaut Paumard <mlotpo...@free.fr>

>   Description     : A stupid scripts management tool and non official package installer
>
> Lazyscripts is just a stupid script distrubtion tool and quick-installer
> in Linux, which aims to provide a easy way to setup your working
> environment for people who need to install a new distrubution such as
> Debian, Ubuntu, openSUSE or who want to have much better experiences in
> Linux.
>

Sorry, I absolutely don't get the concept. In particular, how will
lazyscripts help Debian users installing SuSE?

For my meaning, Lazyscripts can help the people who just installed a new distribution.

After installed a whole new system, Lazyscripts can help you to tune your system, such as

install package, or modified some config files....

 

What sort of "scripts" and "packages" are installed by "lazyscripts"?
are they installed at the systme level or in the user directory?

This guide shows the sort we get the scripts.

http://github.com/billy3321/lazyscripts/blob/master/docs/Script_pool_developer_guide_enUS.txt

 

We use the security system of git and github to make sure the scripts only can be modified by Script pool mantainer.

From the homepage, it looks like it's a tool to help Taiwanese people to
get a working, localized environment. Is that so? In that case both the
short and long description are misleading: non-taiwanese people won't
get that it's not for them, and Taiwanese people won't get that it IS
for them.

Lazyscripts now support multi-language. But we still need more developer help us to imporve it.

Our developer are almost in Taiwan and China, that's why the zh_TW and zh_CN support are better

then others.

 

Best regards, Thibaut.

PS: also presumably not mandated by the Debian policy, it would be great
to have at least a couple of sentences in English on the page pointed to
by the "Homepage" field of your ITP.

Sure, we will improve it. Thanks for your advice.

Best regards, Billy

 

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2010/9/10 Joerg Jaspert <jo...@debian.org>

On 12233 March 1977, Thomas Goirand wrote:

> Owner: Billy Zhe-Wei Lin 林哲瑋 <bill...@gmail.com>

> * Package name    : lazyscripts
>   Version         : 0.2.3.7
>   Upstream Author : Billy Zhe-Wei Lin, 林哲瑋 (billy3321, 雨蒼) <bill...@gmail.com>
> * URL             : http://www.lazyscripts.org* License         : GPL-2
>   Programming Lang: Python, bash

>   Description     : A stupid scripts management tool and non official package installer

> Lazyscripts is just a stupid script distrubtion tool and quick-installer
> in Linux, which aims to provide a easy way to setup your working
> environment for people who need to install a new distrubution such as
> Debian, Ubuntu, openSUSE or who want to have much better experiences in
> Linux.

This seems to be a very taiwanese centric package to increase experience
of
 a.) chinese speaking users who need some special settings before
 Debian is really usable (yes, our installer sucks here)
 b.) install a whole number of third party packages/software

For the first point you really want to change the name, lazyscripts is
sure not going to win anything. And even more you want to adjust the
description to actually state what its doing and what it is for.

Yes, I agree the description has a lot of words need to modified.

I will fix it later.

 

The second means it has to end up in contrib.

Also reading the news page, im not sure if i would want the script on my
system, i think it should be hilighted that the first step this
scriptset i doing is to download a whole bunch of scripts from the net
to execute them. Unless you disable that by default, shipping them all,
and make it an option.

(Looking through the scripts is also pretty scary, with all the apt-get
-y --force-yes, su/sudo to modify the system in sometimes pretty scary
ways and all without any error handling. Have a single command go wrong
- it doesnt care, it goes on, potentially killing the system.

The original goal for lazyscripts is use for new users, or user who usually reinstall there system.

Geeks always has a lot of scripts to config there system, and we hope

new users can enjoy the convenient but without any mistake.

We hope can make the developer and users more close.

The script quality is control by script maintainer.

Our script pool has a stable branch, and all the script for users will on stable branch.

Script pool maintainer will make sure the script can work, and can't not damage the system

before put the script to stable branch.

And we use the github system to keep the scripts only can be modified by script pool maintainer.

Also, many echo statements that output chinese only text, you might want
to provide some english texts too or expect a good set of confused error
reports :) At least if you intend to have that in Debian and as such for
all of our users.

I have no idea what are these talking about?

Lazyscripts are support multi-language now, for now we support English, Chinese Traditional and Chinese Simplified.

Regards, Billy

 

--
bye, Joerg
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