Use of the C with cedilla in beamer

[Luna]

Hello,

I want to write the letter c with a cedilla in beamer. The usual latex
command \c{c} is showing an accent in beamer below the c instead of
the cedilla. I googled and I found that the package" \usepackage
[latin1]{inputenc}" is supposed to be for such international
characters, yet the c is still showing like before when using this
package...

Does anybody know of the cedilla cannot show correctly in beamer? Or
do I need another package?

Thanks.

[Bruno Lopes]

To write in portuguese, which needs the cedilla I use the package inputenc, which lets me use many encodings that support it.

\usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}

• Under GNU/Linux use the encoding utf8.
• Under Windows use the latin1
• Under MacOS, I don't remember ;P

So, just put it as ç and it will work (if your keyboard don't let you write this letter, just copy and paste from here =] ).

Bruno

2009/11/9 Luna <aline...@gmail.com>

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[Luna]

Bruno, thanks for your reply, but even when copying the ç and with the
inputenc package, the cedilla is still showing as an accent. Is that
the default cedilla for beamer? Do you actually get exactly a cedilla
"ç" with beamer or an accent like what is happening with me? I asked
other people and they are also getting an accent...

On Nov 9, 2:17 pm, Bruno Lopes <blopesvie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To write in portuguese, which needs the cedilla I use the package inputenc,
> which lets me use many encodings that support it.
>
> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
>

>    - Under GNU/Linux use the encoding utf8.
>    - Under Windows use the latin1
>    - Under MacOS, I don't remember ;P

>
> So, just put it as ç and it will work (if your keyboard don't let you write
> this letter, just copy and paste from here =] ).
>
> Bruno
>

> 2009/11/9 Luna <aline.ho...@gmail.com>

[Bruno Lopes]

Here I get the normal 'ç'. Did try changing the text font?

Try include a \usepackage{anttor}.

Bruno

2009/11/9 Luna <aline...@gmail.com>

[Luna]

The pdf file cannot be executed with that package... I have 0 error,
but Adobe Reader says: " there was an error opening this document.
This file cannot be found."


Here is my preamble; if there is anything missing please let me know:
\documentclass{beamer}
\mode<presentation>
\usepackage{beamerthemeshadow}
\usepackage[latin1]{inputenc}
\setbeamertemplate{frametitle continuation}[from second][]

\begin{document}...........

On Nov 9, 2:52 pm, Bruno Lopes <blopesvie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here I get the normal 'ç'. Did try changing the text font?
>
> Try include a \usepackage{anttor}.
>
> Bruno
>

> 2009/11/9 Luna <aline.ho...@gmail.com>

[Bruno Lopes]

Are you compiling using the complete way?

latex -> dvips -> ps2pdf

2009/11/9 Luna <aline...@gmail.com>

[Luna]

I am compiling using LaTeX -> PDF but I don't understand the
difference and don't know how to compile using the complete way...
Do you think that is causing the problem?

On Nov 9, 8:14 pm, Bruno Lopes <blopesvie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Are you compiling using the complete way?
>
> latex -> dvips -> ps2pdf
>

> 2009/11/9 Luna <aline.ho...@gmail.com>

[Bruno Lopes]

Maybe you are not getting the PDF file due to incompatibilities.

Try using LaTeX => PS => PDF

2009/11/9 Luna <aline...@gmail.com>

[Luna]

I tried and the PDF file did not show...

On Nov 9, 8:48 pm, Bruno Lopes <blopesvie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe you are not getting the PDF file due to incompatibilities.
>
> Try using LaTeX => PS => PDF
>

> 2009/11/9 Luna <aline.ho...@gmail.com>

[Gildas Cotomale]

> To write in portuguese, which needs the cedilla I use the package inputenc,
> which lets me use many encodings that support it.
>

true. as it's name suggests, it tells LaTeX what's the document
encoding <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_encoding> ...so you
can directly type "ç" instead of \c{c} (this later is the way to do
when you only have ascii)

> \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
>
> Under GNU/Linux use the encoding utf8.

Linux also knows latin1, latin9, etc. your true encoding depends of
your locales...

> Under Windows use the latin1

Windows also knows latin9, and of course cp1252 plus ansinew (always
depending of your locale settings and sometimes applications support)

> Under MacOS, I don't remember ;P

MacOs also knows latin1 and latin9, and of course applemac and roman
(always according to your system choice). MacOs X can deal with utf8
too...

>
> So, just put it as ç and it will work (if your keyboard don't let you write
> this letter, just copy and paste from here =] ).
>

it's better to select another keyboard layout :)
brazilian and canadian ones are very closed to qwertzy but offer
ability to put much accentued characters. us and uk have international
variant too...

> Bruno
>
> 2009/11/9 Luna <aline...@gmail.com>
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I want to write the letter c with a cedilla in beamer. The usual latex
>> command \c{c} is showing an accent in beamer below the c instead of
>> the cedilla. I googled and I found that the package" \usepackage
>> [latin1]{inputenc}" is supposed to be for such international
>> characters, yet the c is still showing like before when using this
>> package...
>>

yes for inputing... but not really needed (as far i can remember) if
your prefere LaTeX commands for accents (i mean pure ascii source
then, with no diacritics)

>> Does anybody know of the cedilla cannot show correctly in beamer? Or
>> do I need another package?

strange... what says your log file?

not sure, but also try one of these (hope that helps):
\usepackage[T1]{fontenc} % Extended Computer modern (EC) fonts:
option T1 (Cork style characters encoding)
\usepackage{lmodern} % Latin Modern (LM) fonts

best regards

[Luna]

Thank you guys ! But my problem is still unsolved and it is becoming
annoying not to figure out the solution... By the way, I am using
windows.

On Nov 10, 12:25 am, Gildas Cotomale <gildas.cotom...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> > To write in portuguese, which needs the cedilla I use the package inputenc,
> > which lets me use many encodings that support it.
>
> true. as it's name suggests, it tells LaTeX what's the document
> encoding <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Character_encoding> ...so you
> can directly type "ç" instead of \c{c} (this later is the way to do
> when you only have ascii)
>
> > \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc}
>
> > Under GNU/Linux use the encoding utf8.
>
> Linux also knows latin1, latin9, etc. your true encoding depends of
> your locales...> Under Windows use the latin1
>
> Windows also knows latin9, and of course cp1252 plus ansinew (always
> depending of your locale settings and sometimes applications support)> Under MacOS, I don't remember ;P
>
> MacOs also knows latin1 and latin9, and of course applemac and roman
> (always according to your system choice). MacOs X can deal with utf8
> too...
>
>
>
> > So, just put it as ç and it will work (if your keyboard don't let you write
> > this letter, just copy and paste from here =] ).
>
> it's better to select another keyboard layout :)
> brazilian and canadian ones are very closed to qwertzy but offer
> ability to put much accentued characters. us and uk have international
> variant too...
>
> > Bruno
>

> > 2009/11/9 Luna <aline.ho...@gmail.com>

[Bruno Lopes]

Take a look at your log output and report it to us.

2009/11/10 Luna <aline...@gmail.com>

[Donald Arseneau]

On Nov 9, 10:53 am, Luna <aline.ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I want to write the letter c with a cedilla in beamer. The usual latex
> command \c{c} is showing an accent in beamer below the c instead of
> the cedilla.

You don't say it explicitly, but I assume the accent *is* the cedilla,
and what you want is the single character "ç" rather than a composite.

> I googled and I found that the package" \usepackage
> [latin1]{inputenc}" is supposed to be for such international
> characters,

Your googling failed you: inputenc is for *inputting* characters,
so that you could type "ç" rather than "\c{c}". You should have
used \usepackage[T1]{fontenc}, to specify that the *output* font
encoding would contain proper characters like "ç".

Donald Arseneau

[Luna]

Thank you Donald. I tried the package you recommended, yet the
character "ç" is not showing for the output.

[Donald Arseneau]

On Nov 13, 12:11 am, Luna <aline.ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thank you Donald. I tried the package you recommended, yet the
> character "ç" is not showing for the output.

Haw can that be!!??!!

You will have to really explain what you are seeing and how that is
wrong
for you. Post a minimal(!!) document that causes the bad characters.

Do you get an error message (or a warning hidden in the .log file)?
You say you get "an accent":

> The usual latex command \c{c} is showing an accent in beamer
> below the c instead of the cedilla.

What accent? I assumed you complained about a separate character
("accent") instead of a unified single-character.

My new theory is that you just don't like the appearance of "ç"
in the sans-serif font that is the default in beamer. If that is
it, then use another font!

Donald Arseneau

[Luna]

If I could attach the pdf file, then I would have done that. Maybe the
appearance of the character "ç" that I am getting with beamer is the
default one for beamer, but it does not look like the "ç" you get with
LaTeX (with LaTeX I see exactly this character "ç"). I am getting with
beamer the letter "c" with some character below it that does not look
like a cedilla for me; I would describe it as a low acute accent "ˏ".
I couldn't find anywhere the character I have with beamer, but
consider this character "ć", remove the acute accent and put it below
the letter "c". That is what I see in my output file. If that is what
everybody else is getting with the default font, then I am not going
to complain anymore !

[Donald Arseneau]

On Nov 14, 4:20 pm, Luna <aline.ho...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If I could attach the pdf file, then I would have done that. Maybe the
> appearance of the character "ç" that I am getting with beamer is the
> default one for beamer, but it does not look like the "ç" you get with
> LaTeX (with LaTeX I see exactly this character "ç"). I am getting with
> beamer the letter "c" with some character below it that does not look
> like a cedilla for me; I would describe it as a low acute accent "ˏ".
> I couldn't find anywhere the character I have with beamer, but
> consider this character "ć", remove the acute accent and put it below
> the letter "c". That is what I see in my output file.

Yes indeed that sounds just like the modernistic straight cedilla
in the cmss font. It may be a separate cedilla accent, or it may
be the single character "ç", depending on which fontenc, but the
visual appearance will be the same. (You have to distinguish between
the character and the appearance of that character in a particular
font.) You can test that by simply placing \rm right after
\begin{document} and that will switch to a roman (serifed) font
that has a curlier cedilla.

For other sans-serif fonts, look at:
http://www.tug.dk/FontCatalogue/sansseriffonts.html
and see which of these are on your system. You *must* have helvetica
though, so try this:

(get rid of \rm if you put it in)
Put \renewcommand{\sfdefault}{phv} before \begin{document}

Then your sans-serif font is Helvetica.

Donald Arseneau

[Luna]

Thanks a lot Donald !!!! I am not at all familiar with the different
fonts but what you said worked well and I finally have the appearance
of "ç" that I was looking for :D

Thanks again for your many replies...