Black Friday Deals Deutschland

[Saundra Balock]

Inthe lead-up to the holiday season, and we all make wish lists, and if we don't get what we want, it can be disappointing. I think many of us know that feeling if you look under the Christmas tree and the thing you dreamed about is not there. Perhaps this is a similar situation.

Fanatec products usually have a very long life cycle; products like the BMW steering wheel have remained in our portfolio for over eight years. The prices on our products usually only go up over time (due to manufacturing costs and inflation), which means strong used value too. We are not fans of stimulating sales with discounts and we prefer to convince customers with quality, features, functionality, and a strong price-performance ratio. Our general pricing already represents good value due to the fact that we sell directly from our own website instead of retail.

I was/am looking for a DD wheel. I have been using my CSL Elite PS4 for 1.5 years now, and am looking to upgrade. So, I waited for Black Friday to see what kind of offers came up. No DD, so a bit disappointed, but nothing more. I'll survive ;-)

I have bought my CSL Elite for PS4 in a bundle, including the normal pedals. This bundle was 520 euro back then. I added the LC pedals for, I believe, 130 euro later on. Fine, this was 1,5 years ago, but the CSL Elite bundle (without the LC) was available far longer. It has been removed from the shop in the last few months (if I'm not mistaken). This means that the set you now have on offer for 699, used to be 650 without being on offer.

Yes, prices have been changed/increased during the last year as you also state in your post, but due to the fact that the original bundle was removed, and the prices for the single products have increased, this doesn't 'feel' like a 20 or even 30% discount.

Companies may reach their happiness in many ways: basically with profit, or attracting new buyers, or to build customers loyalty. Reading at the many disappointed people out there, it really seems like Fanatec failed these last two missions.

If as you said, you don't want to encourage buyers to wait for Black Friday, then just don't do Black Friday at all. But if you do BF, do it in a way to make buyers happy. I'm not here to suggest how, I guess Fanatec has a Marketing Department - they failed this year, but they could do better the next ones.

Is Fanatec considering an option like this in the future? Would it be possible to contact the sales team and make an arrangement to do something like this for me? Right now the difference in price would be the difference in being able to stay within budget to make a purchase, and if there is anyone else I could discuss this with I'd be really grateful if you could direct me towards them.

I think your justification here is perfectly valid. Discounting causes supply chain and fulfilment issues for smaller companies like Fanatec (been there!) so it's completely understandable to limit that to small product sets. Personally, I was hoping for a discount on the CSL Elite for PS4 like last year, but I'll be buying it at full price now and will be happy to do so (along with those sweet V3 pedals that are on special ;-) ).

it's pretty crazy that you got so much negative feedback that you felt like you had to justify your methodology. i personally think your products are fantastic and well worth the regular asking price. to date i think the only thing ive bought on a black friday sale is the 2018 F1 rim, but always check in to see if i can find a cheeky deal or new product that i wasn't expecting to pick up.

my expectations were made by previous Black Fridays from Fanatec in the past and I ( maybe others as well) expected similar discounts as it were before. Don't get me wrong, but introduce new items is nice (new podium porsche 911 looks amazing), but during Black Friday discount is the main thing we are praying for.

So who created expectactions for BF 2019?We or Fanatec? We all shoud know that it is not possible to please everyone, but one or two (random) products per BF with this discount(not few %) and most of us will be satified. Otherwise I think it is better to stop BF next year.

Please reconsider I waited for 3 months so I could rip you off on Black Friday with my order. Please offer the cls base at 75.245% off with the BMW rim at 31% discount and just the load cell brake at 54% off because I already have the elite pedals, just need the load cell and make it so if you buy 3 items you get the side brackets for a penny. If you did this I would be willing to buy now!

Most of these complaints are ridiculous and reek of self-entitlement. How is it Fanatec or Thomas fault that you guys cannot afford their gear? So Fanatec should deeply discount things just so you can afford to buy exactly what you want? I'm sorry, but I genuinely don't understand why people feel they are owed things like this. So what if they had bigger sales in the past years? That doesn't mean they are obligated to do the same thing every season. The fact that Thomas even had to apologize for "setting expectations" is absurd IMO. I understand being disappointed. Sure, I was bummed that some of the things I wanted were not on sale on Black Friday but that's all it was....disappointing....I didn't need a therapy session to be able to deal with the massive disappointment. So I pay full price if I want one of those items. That's life.

The way I look at it, Fanatec are doing a good thing by offering ANYTHING on Black Friday. They don't need to discount any of their gear to sell it and so they don't normally do so. I've purchased almost all of my Fanatec gear (over $2k worth by now, probably) at their retail non-sale prices. I love to get a sale when I can, but I am not going to complain to Fanatec when I don't. Sorry to be harsh, but I just do not understand this self-entitled mentality I see so often online these days. It's embarrassing.

One of the things I find so disturbing about the whole 'Black Friday' concept is that, thanks to some American maketing person's idea concocted a few years ago (and probably just to shift outdated or surplus stock), everyone now seems to think that all consumer and electronics companies are utterly obliged to offer masssive discounts on all their products for this one 'event'.

Even the most basic form of logic would tell you this would be financial suicide for many companies, as people would only buy their products one day a year while their profit margins are slashed. That means they'd soon be out of business, or have to put off staff and overwork those who remained. And they'd never have money to develop new products, etc, etc.

One thing I forgot to mention in my post is that we might give some higher discounts on items which are discontinued (Like the CSL Elite bundle) or where have temporary overstock (like the ClubSport inverted). Both were popular products but there was a specific reason to give a greater discount. I will certainly not promise if that will ever happen again as we are trying to avoid those situations.

I would like to thank Fanatec for the products that they make and also thank Thomas for being someone who cares enough to directly follow, respond and be involved in a forum like this. I can't think of another company where this actually happens. It's obvious that the team at Fanatec love what they do, as it translates into the quality of products they continue to produce.

in spite of my previous comment on the former post in which I stated that this blackfriday sale is joke and that a bigger sale on the CSL ELITE boudle would be nice, I would like to thank you and the Fanatec team for the great discount on the fanatec Clubsport pedals v3. I think that 70% of the negative comments on this years blackfriday are because people want to enter the Fanatec ecosystem, but they dont want to spend thousands of dollars, which in my opinion is completely understandable. I am coming from the Thrustmaster ecosystem so a 20% discount on the CSL elite pro kit would have had me buy it instantaneously. Personally, this blackfriday, I will purchase a CSL elite together with a set of clubsport pedals. Anyway... thanks again for at least offering some deals this blackfriday!

I'd second this. My experience is slightly different in that I got into sim racing less than a year ago so I'm not so familiar with the journey but it is really clear that Fanatec really are sim racing fanatics. ? I've already committed to the ecosystem (DD was ordered yesterday and is arriving tomorrow - great service, new Porsche endurance is ordered too) as I would much rather deal with these sort of people than boring business men - Thomas, you don't seem boring! ?

I can't wait to see what comes next too. Feel free to tease us with these new product hints - I'm really curious to see the trajectory you are heading in. I want a rally focussed wheel as I'm really loving Dirt 2.0 at the moment.

After much deliberation, I will give my order tomorrow. Because I am convinced of the quality of your products. However, I am very disappointed that I waited until Black Friday. Because I hoped to get the whole thing with a small "deal". Now I get the CSW 2.5, two wheels and the magnetic pedals at the regular price, and a shifter in a color that does not match my black rig, but hey, with a carbon knob! Not bad either!

I can understand the people who were hoping for a little bit more "deal" and are now disappointed. Then I prefer to do without the BF in the coming year, because with this marketing Fanatec has lost in many people in reputation.

Hello Thomas, yeah, I get the steady sales throughout the year. I've bought the ClubSport pedals V3 and the Brake Performance Kit on 3rd November. This discount is a tough pill to swallow for me right now.

I was more interested in potential new products than discounts. I think that the delays on the DD bases, followed by the development cycle on the Porsche wheel, have had an impact on the product pipeline. There are parts of my setup that could definitely go for an upgrade, that just aren't offered even at full price.

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