Section 2 - rise / run = rise:run or run:rise?

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Thevishka K.

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Dec 4, 2020, 11:11:58 PM12/4/20
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I am getting conflicting answers from the texbooks + the practice exams on this.

For the purposes of the Section 2 LARE Exam, is the rise / run (represented as rise over run) expressed in a ratio as either:

a) rise : run
b) run : rise?

I've seen it represented both ways in textbooks, in the Shake and Bake notes, AND on the practice exam. Which is correct?! 

Thank you! 

john lambert pearson

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Dec 5, 2020, 2:07:15 AM12/5/20
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a slope represented as 1:12 means rise of 1 over a run of 12. 

caitlin...@gmail.com

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Dec 5, 2020, 7:33:39 AM12/5/20
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I'm confused about this as well because I see 3:1 in multiple places representing 33%, but that is the opposite math of 1:12 representing 8.3%

john lambert pearson

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Dec 5, 2020, 10:56:21 AM12/5/20
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Yes you're right - we commonly describe 33% slopes as 3:1. even the wikipedia for grade / slope explains that both conventions are used. i think in our field you just need to know that the run is going to be more than the rise. we are VERY RARELY talking about something steeper than 45%. i guess you could also think of it as it's always a comparison to "one part rise" regardless of the order.

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caitlin...@gmail.com

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Dec 5, 2020, 11:53:35 AM12/5/20
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That's helpful to just know that the 1 is pretty much always the rise. Thanks John. 

Thevishka K.

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Dec 5, 2020, 12:31:18 PM12/5/20
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Thank you for explaining it that way! I'm not doing this test in the US / I don't practice in the US, so I thought maybe that was affecting my judgement since it varies by region and profession. This is helpful. 

EB Cink

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Dec 6, 2020, 10:00:13 AM12/6/20
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so I've found that 3:1 is most often used in Civil Engineering, our sister profession.  But I agree, knowing that 1 will be the raise should help you in all the problems!

Thevishka K.

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Dec 11, 2020, 1:43:47 PM12/11/20
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For anyone who is curious, I found the answer in the answers to Lareprep Section 2, Exam A:

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