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dannyrosales

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Oct 3, 2012, 10:45:04 AM10/3/12
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http://careers.stackoverflow.com/jobs/24394/net-software-developer-small-software-shop-ectobox?a=sOUSc48&searchTerm=ectobox

so I applied for this job, got turned down. As you can see from my careers profile 

http://careers.stackoverflow.com/dannysyntax I have all the skills tag they are looking for. So, what IF, I can't be playing with a dozen JavaScript libraries, and half a dozen CSS kits and be on the cutting edge of ALL programming technologies. SO WHAT! From looking at my profile and my experience, what you say I need to improve upon? Yes this is an open question for anyone to reply to. 

Thanks, 

Danny Rosales

Mike Rankin

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Oct 3, 2012, 2:51:46 PM10/3/12
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If your candidacy for employment includes satisfying hr requirements, you will have the cards stacked against you.  If, on the other hand, you have the opportunity to present your resume to a hiring manager who happens to have some real-world experience, you stand a fighting chance. 

Unfortunately, too many IT departments outsource their candidate search.  The best method is to win an audience with the hiring manager.

Outsourcing to hr has unfortunately been a trend for a while now.  Too many companies are influenced by academics... business theories based on limited truth and enthusiastically put into practice by misguided, inexperienced managers.  Hr promotes utopian hiring practices in the name of streamlining the hiring process, ensuring EOC guidelines, and attempting to influence the organization by serving as the workforce gatekeeper.  HR management often has the ear of top management and the ability to trump the wishes of their IT counterparts.  HR looks for buzz words and the rhetoric of the day.  They want to know that you employ best practices and leverage resources to deliver best-in-breed products that meet the demands of the market space/customer base/war fighter/tax payer/(insert your favorite target audience here) in an effort to create a center of excellence, yada yada yada...

So, if you don't match enough buzz words, no call back.

You also need to ensure the hiring manager has some experience.  Are they looking for experience in only bleeding edge tech?  RED FLAG ALERT!!!

If the company in question has been around for any length of time, their core revenue stream was obviously not realized using a tech that is still in beta.  Why do they want someone only with the latest skillset?  Is this a new company with no revenue (other than investment revenue)?  Or is the hiring manager new (aka no experience)?  Or perhaps the hiring manager is a maverick, wanting to revamp the architecture?  If the latter is true, how on board is executive management with this new direction?

Food for thought...  hope all this helps.

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dannyrosales

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Oct 5, 2012, 9:40:28 AM10/5/12
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Wow, what a response. Thank you!!!  You broke it down very analytically. I like it...I was not aware of HR being so complex! They are inept and so have to outsource their function to outside specialists. Sad! --dr

Keith Elder

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Oct 3, 2012, 1:34:42 PM10/3/12
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If you want to relocate to Detroit, we are hiring .NET engineers at Quicken Loans, one of the top companies to work for in the country. 

If interested, send me an email (also DBAs, PHP, 4GL, BAs, lots of openings)

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